[piizzadude]

The only thing I am gonna say about battery is that size is getting less important.

My sgs3 pulled down 17 hours I think the other day with 8+ hours of screen time. Granted I am running a form of AOKP, but sense should not make it that much worse.

I have a screenie somewhere if doubts come up. Android and the tech behind it is becoming more efficient.

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[pcabe5]

The only thing I am gonna say about battery is that size is getting less important.

My sgs3 pulled down 17 hours I think the other day with 8+ hours of screen time. Granted I am running a form of AOKP, but sense should not make it that much worse.

I have a screenie somewhere if doubts come up. Android and the tech behind it is becoming more efficient.

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Hey I thought you went to sgs3 and sold it and went back to the rezound. What did I miss.

If you live be reviews the sgs3 doesn't sound to good either. Lots of bad phones.

Now that HTC and Apple settled maybe HTC will come out with even better phones.

[piizzadude]

Hey I thought you went to sgs3 and sold it and went back to the rezound. What did I miss.

If you live be reviews the sgs3 doesn't sound to good either. Lots of bad phones.

Now that HTC and Apple settled maybe HTC will come out with even better phones.

Then I went back to the sgs.. Made money outta the whole deal..

The sgs3 is excellent.... Now I am going to sprint so I can do my third sgs tour, note 2, or outside lg Optimus g.

I will also get to tinker with an evo and photon q... So yeah I am all geek hyped

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[Jude526]

No SD? I love my music and photos. I have favorite CD's on the SD card.
That's a deal breaker for me

sent from either my HTC Rezound or my Samsung Galaxy 10.1 tablet

[ohiwastedmylife]

HOW DO YOU LIVE WITH 11 GB OF SPACE???!!!!!!!!!! Ever go on a long commute? An airplane ride? A part of the country with no service? A part of the world with no service? Storage is essential if you rely on your phone for anything. They push this phone as if photographers would use it, photographers shoot 10's of GB's of photos in a single shoot.

Seriously I have been waiting 8+ months for this device and I was floored to hear that it does not support an external SD card. The HTC Butterfly J, the phone that this is an exact copy of, allows for 32GB of external storage. I was 100% sure they would not change it but guess what they did! This makes no sense considering the One X+ has 64GB onboard option. I am not a conspiracy theorist but Verizon has to have intentionally pushed HTC to remove onboard storage in order to get people to pay their rediculous data fees, if they are lucky they get $15/GB for overages! Regardless of cloud storage or not, most high end games run at 1GB or more + they constantly are saving data files that build up over time. I really really want this device but I do not want to have to remove apps on a weekly basis in order to function. I can use CD's for music, read my news on my desktop, but even with just using the phone for games it still does not have enough. I am wondering if they are going to do a push in December with an addition white unit + extra storage space. I so badly want to give HTC my money but I think I have to go with the Note 2. With the Note 2 I can get nearly 100GB of space (64GB of HIGH speed SD card) and also have the battery removable in-case I need to. I have had the original Droid Incredible since day 1 and I am so bummmmmmmmmmed. /rant

[twolastnames]

HOW DO YOU LIVE WITH 11 GB OF SPACE???!!!!!!!!!! Ever go on a long commute? An airplane ride? A part of the country with no service? A part of the world with no service? Storage is essential if you rely on your phone for anything. They push this phone as if photographers would use it, photographers shoot 10's of GB's of photos in a single shoot.

11 is fine if your a photographer, it's music, movies and apps. I "shoot" semi professionally, and a 750 shot wedding at 12mp is less than 5 gigs (jpeg, not raw). I agree 16 is to small, but if I used this just for photo's, it would actually be overkill. I don't like huge cards because it's to slow loading 5,000 photos into windows preview every time you plug it in.

I do on the other hand have 24GB's of just music on a 64GB card, so I can see 32GB's to be fine for a music hound. Movies, I can't tell you, but I really can't stand watching movies, even on my tablet.

[android4life007]

After using a 3200Mah battery for so long I am finding it extremely hard to go back to anything less. I cannot bear to think of living constantly worrying about my battery life again. As awesome as all of these new phones are I can't bring myself to even consider a 2000Mah size battery. My Rezound does everything I want it too and I will not even think of switching unless the new phone has a decent battery and cooks me pancakes and eggs in the evening :-P

[piizzadude]

After using a 3200Mah battery for so long I am finding it extremely hard to go back to anything less. I cannot bear to think of living constantly worrying about my battery life again. As awesome as all of these new phones are I can't bring myself to even consider a 2000Mah size battery. My Rezound does everything I want it too and I will not even think of switching unless the new phone has a decent battery and cooks me pancakes and eggs in the evening :-P

I hear ya and fully understand having done it and worried about it myself.

Trust me, it isn't a concern. My 2100 holds up better than the extended with the rezound

Edit: I am at 13hrs now, 33% left and 77% of the drain was onscreen time

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[piizzadude]

Pure Spec Comparison:

The pixel density really sticks out, but we knew that. There is also a higher clock speed on the RAM (makes a difference in speed) and a bit newer GPU.

Can someone give me a laymans explanation of aperture size? Is smaller better?

[NHBass39]

No go for me. I'm getting the Note 2. Biggest thing for me is the non removable battery.

[MrSmith317]

Pure Spec Comparison:

The pixel density really sticks out, but we knew that. There is also a higher clock speed on the RAM (makes a difference in speed) and a bit newer GPU.

Can someone give me a laymans explanation of aperture size? Is smaller better?

I don't think it's that easy, but generally bigger is better. We're talking apertures here people...get your mind out of the gutter. The more light allowed to hit the image sensor the more balanced your picture quality will be.

[Eleni 22]

Janet,
Which power pack are you using. I can't stand this swithching batteries 3 times a day.
Thanks

[skatergirl]

Janet,
Which power pack are you using. I can't stand this swithching batteries 3 times a day.
Thanks

Eleni ... I have never used it but it is called incredi charge and I don't remember it being all that expensive. Maybe $30 or something like that.

[twolastnames]

Pure Spec Comparison:

The pixel density really sticks out, but we knew that. There is also a higher clock speed on the RAM (makes a difference in speed) and a bit newer GPU.

Can someone give me a laymans explanation of aperture size? Is smaller better?

Smaller is better on aperture, bigger is better for sensor size. Aperture is amount of light a lens lets through it. Every full f number lower = twice asmuch light through. Under f2 things get very hard to make. For example, a cannon 50mm f1. 8 lens is only a hundred bucks. But a 50mm f1. 2 is over a grand. Sensor size is getting to be more important than all things in camera phones. 12mp photos dont mean jack when the sensor is as small as they are.

[major payne]

Smaller is better on aperture, bigger is better for sensor size. Aperture is amount of light a lens lets through it. Every full f number lower = twice asmuch light through. Under f2 things get very hard to make. For example, a cannon 50mm f1. 8 lens is only a hundred bucks. But a 50mm f1. 2 is over a grand. Sensor size is getting to be more important than all things in camera phones. 12mp photos dont mean jack when the sensor is as small as they are.

this.

[piizzadude]

this.

So the 2.0 aperture is better than 2.6

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[major payne]

So the 2.0 aperture is better than 2.6

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That is mostly correct. Contrary to most intuition, a larger number represents a smaller aperture. Thus, an aperture of 16 (f16) lets in less light than an aperture of 4 (f4). BUT The smaller the aperture, the smaller the depth of field. For example, a close-up portrait at f8 will create a crisp picture with the entire face in focus, whereas the same picture at f1.8 might only have the nose or the eyes in focus, while the rest of the face is blurred. This is one of the reasons that Cellphone Camera's are not the best solution for photography Each step allows in double the amount of light as the previous

1.4, 2.0, 2.8, 4, 5.6, 8, 11, 16, 22 (IE 2.0 should be better in low light situations then 2.8)

here is a good easy article on it


here is the OMG article on it

[piizzadude]

Thanks for the primer I gotta read through it later

Back to the DNA, did you guys see it has a rear notification light and can be used on at with hspa+

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[bellken]

Thanks for the primer I gotta read through it later

Back to the DNA, did you guys see it has a rear notification light and can be used on at with hspa+

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Yes, it has a notification light on the back, and, see - The Droid DNA is SIM-unlocked (that means it works on AT&T) You can use the DNA on ATT!

[major payne]

yep but without more space it's a no go for me.. never know when you will need to steal secrets lol

[piizzadude]

Yes, it has a notification light on the back, and, see - The Droid DNA is SIM-unlocked (that means it works on AT&T) You can use the DNA on ATT!

There is no way verizon ships it like that. Not saying the dev won't get it to work, but it is not going to be like that OOTB

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[MrSmith317]

There is no way verizon ships it like that. Not saying the dev won't get it to work, but it is not going to be like that OOTB

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Actually yes, that's the impression that's being put out there. That it will ship SIM unlocked out of the box.

[piizzadude]

Actually yes, that's the impression that's being put out there. That it will ship SIM unlocked out of the box.

I just cannot see it. I know that is the impression but what is verizons end of letting it out?

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[NightAngel79]

I should note that HTC gave us the phones, with the desire that we answer as many questions as possible. From the comments, I have seen HTC needs some help to re-build their reputation, particularly around battery life. While a bigger battery would seem to be a requirement, I think HTC went for an optimized size. People are claiming the 2020 battery is too small, but, I think they need to give it a try before slamming it.

This^ (I also got the phone from elevate)

Ohh, and any word on USB hosting? Even though it would **** me off to no end, using a USB stick would be a crappy option to help with the memory. I know HTC is not keen on USB hosting, but one can hope.

It does work

No go for me. I'm getting the Note 2. Biggest thing for me is the non removable battery.

Space is the only negative for me but to each their own

[bellken]

This^ (I also got the phone from elevate)



It does work



Space is the only negative for me but to each their own

I agree 100% with nightangel79. The cover on the micro usb port is kind of questionable, but, it will keep water out.

Also, since our phones came from HTC, phones shipped from Verizon might be configured slightly different (i.e. s-on).