ace, I would say the biggest reason so many are ready to throw this problem at Hangouts is because the issue seemed to start around the time of the update/change. Granted not a lot of people are having this issue, and I give you all day that it may be coincidence, but the two events seem to coincide pretty closely. Meanwhile, we've all seen issues in the past with updates that cause some users headaches and not others. Take VLS for example. I saw hundreds of posts about how horrible that addition was. "It killed my battery...", "It's over taxing my memory...", "It's... whatever...", but you would always see those posts from people who were like "what the heck? I'm not seeing any change". It may be a hardware compatibility issue. Even though all of our phones are similar the parts that make them up are not always exactly the same, and then you also have to take into consideration the fact that we all have made different choices as to what apps we want, and how we use our phones. These are all deciding factors in performance. So, I will still give you that this may not be a "Hangouts" issue, but something that happened around the time it updated/changed seems to be causing some of us issues. If it were say a continuity issue, like there was an interruption during download or install of the update/change it would seem that a factory reset would clear that up, but it's not. Wiping the cache, adding and removing widgets, and rooting hasn't helped. The only way to truly see if it is app related would be to factory reset and not reinstall any apps until it does or does not happen. Will I do that? Probably not... One I'm too lazy to set up my phone all over again, two I'm too attached to those things I don't want to loose, even if I haven't used them in a month of Sundays, and three as soon as I do someone will post that changing one arbitrary setting fixes it all. Oh and gives you the power to 3D print without paying Big Red a data charge. LOL.