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  1. robrecht's Avatar
    Please only post reliable information on the status of the ThunderBolt Gingerbread update at Verizon (this typically excludes comments from Verizon reps and tech support jockeys).

    TeamAndIRC ✔ jcase
    Derp gingerbread for thunderbolt will be testing at Verizon shortly
    16 hours ago
    A week ago jcase confirmed the correct build number of the MR2 OTA update that was pushed out last night so I think he's a rather reliable source.
    EggoEspada likes this.
    07-09-2011 10:58 AM
  2. rot#AC's Avatar
    Im guessing it will be soon. The update we just got was mainly for the hotspot.
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    07-09-2011 11:01 AM
  3. robrecht's Avatar
    Im guessing it will be soon. The update we just got was mainly for the hotspot.
    Please don't take offense but I'd really like to reserve this thread for reliable information, not guesses.

    Thanks, Robrecht
    07-09-2011 11:17 AM
  4. vbctv's Avatar
    From what a VZW rep told me here in Cleveland is that HTC pulled the GB update to put Sense 3.0 into the update and it should be out in the 3Q of this year.
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    07-09-2011 11:22 AM
  5. robrecht's Avatar
    From what a VZW rep told me here in Cleveland ...
    Please only post reliable information on the status of the ThunderBolt Gingerbread update at Verizon (this typically excludes comments from Verizon reps and tech support jockeys).
    Thanks, Robrecht
    07-09-2011 11:28 AM
  6. Kronko's Avatar
    Reliable information? Will be hard but I would like to know as well.
    dannyb884 likes this.
    07-09-2011 11:36 AM
  7. jstewart0131's Avatar
    I was told today at a corporate store and I quote, " the gingerbread update for the thunderbolt is still being baked by HTC at this time". I don't know if this was the guys attempt at humor as it was told to me with a totally straight face.

    Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
    07-09-2011 11:48 AM
  8. robrecht's Avatar
    I was told today at a corporate store and I quote, " the gingerbread update for the thunderbolt is still being baked by HTC at this time". I don't know if this was the guys attempt at humor as it was told to me with a totally straight face.
    Again, please do not take offense, but I would like to limit this thread to reliable information. If you or anyone else feels this or that Verion rep was credible, please tell us why you think he or she is credible. For example, does he have access to test build numbers of software that is being tested or does she actually have access to the code itself? If not, or if you're not even sure if he was just joking with you, please refrain from posting such rumors here. We do have sources that meet this level of credibility.
    07-09-2011 11:56 AM
  9. robrecht's Avatar
    OK, moving on to our next reliable source, who now has the beginnings of a provven track record:

    Based on the number of GB test builds sent to VZW I wouldn't expect this to be ready till August, at the earliest. ... The SW for the Tbolt has been in development for over 9 months and it still has some way to go. ...

    I know everyone is waiting for GB which is MR3, but it still needs some time. The good news is that it is being worked on it is already on its fifth SW revision.
    need bb is not as well known as jcase, but he was the first (on 6/29) to reveal the build number of the MR2 OTA update that was pushed out by Verizon on last night.
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    07-09-2011 12:18 PM
  10. Mike_is_Mike's Avatar
    Robrecht - Please don't take offense but There may only be one or two people that run across what you are looking for - and even then it won't be known if it's reliable or not until we actually get GB.

    Even reliable sources get things wrong in this business most of the time.
    07-09-2011 12:21 PM
  11. robrecht's Avatar
    Robrecht - Please don't take offense but There may only be one or two people that run across what you are looking for - and even then it won't be known if it's reliable or not until we actually get GB.

    Even reliable sources get things wrong in this business most of the time.
    None taken! I certainly do not confuse reliable with infallible. Reliable sources may indeed be incorrect, but there are still reasons for considering them reliable, eg, a proven track record or access to actual code. We will not know for sure if any particular piece of information is correct until after the fact, but that is no reason to not place more value on reliable sources and confirmation.
    07-09-2011 12:34 PM
  12. willymakit's Avatar
    Robrecht - Please don't take offense but There may only be one or two people that run across what you are looking for - and even then it won't be known if it's reliable or not until we actually get GB.

    Even reliable sources get things wrong in this business most of the time.
    Amen.............Thats it in a nutshell.
    07-09-2011 12:39 PM
  13. robrecht's Avatar
    Amen.............
    No need to resort to religion here! ;-)
    07-09-2011 12:49 PM
  14. Mike_is_Mike's Avatar
    No need to resort to religion here! ;-)
    Praying for updates couldn't hurt - - but there's no reliable source that says it does...... so I guess it's a FAIL.
    07-09-2011 12:51 PM
  15. wildman's Avatar
    @robrecht

    I don't see this post going far because there isn't any 100% reliable sources for any information, everything is basically guessing and speculation, the only information that would fall in the level of being reliable is the software developers and I don't see none of them posting here.

    So wouldn't you think you are asking for a bit much to expect a 100% reliable source?
    07-09-2011 12:54 PM
  16. robrecht's Avatar
    @robrecht

    I don't see this post going far because there isn't any 100% reliable sources for any information is it all guessing and speculation, the only information that would fall in the level of being reliable is the software developers and I don't see none of them posting here.

    So wouldn't you think you are asking for a bit much ro expect a 100% reliable source?
    But I have never asked for a 100% reliable source. No need to apply black & white, all or nothing, simplistic binary reasoning to the idea of reliability. For example, jcase is reliable. He is sometimes wrong, but that does not mean he is always wrong. And he certainly is not merely guessing and speculating when he actually possesses and shares leaked code.
    07-09-2011 12:58 PM
  17. wildman's Avatar
    But I have never asked for a 100% reliable source. No need to apply black & white, all or nothing, simplistic binary reasoning to the idea of reliability. For example, jcase is reliable. He is sometimes wrong, but that does not mean he is always wrong. And he certainly is not merely guessing and speculating when he actually possesses and shares leaked code.
    I didn't mean any disrespect with the post but it seems that every reply that was posted wasn't what you seem to want as a answer.
    07-09-2011 01:04 PM
  18. robrecht's Avatar
    I didn't mean any disrespect with the post but it seems that every reply that was posted wasn't what you seem to want as a answer.
    No disrespect perceived, but I'm also not looking for instant answers just trying to set up a place for people to discuss and share what can be considered reliable information. I think it might be helpful for people to focus at least some attention on whether or not something they've heard is realiable and why. That's all.
    07-09-2011 01:11 PM
  19. Mortiel's Avatar
    Rob, what you are looking for is not going to be found yet. What I can confirm is this:

    It was initially planned to include Gingerbread in the MR2 that was released yesterday, which was originally set to be released on June 30th. That is actually the truth, but it never happened.

    The date got pushed back to July 7th, and when it looked like the update was going to be pushed back again, Verizon decided to push the fixes that were already done since there was rather a large public outcry to fix the phone. As I said previously in other topics, the fix has been finished for a while now.

    Currently, Gingerbread is expected later this month, which would put it under the Q3 rumor. Q3 started at the beginning of July, to anyone curious, and runs until the end of September. That is an easy guess for any HTC or Verizon rep to make, since even if it gets delayed a ton more times that rumor can still be correct. Its like saying the world will end sometime in the next trillion years. lol
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    07-09-2011 02:07 PM
  20. Kronko's Avatar
    Well, it looks like that pdf file picture flying around befor June 30th and whit a ton of errors was a legit one then (if what Mortiel says is true)
    07-09-2011 02:17 PM
  21. Mortiel's Avatar
    Well, it looks like that pdf file picture flying around befor June 30th and whit a ton of errors was a legit one then (if what Mortiel says is true)
    It was a draft PDF that got scrapped before it was leaked.

    Not to say that the plan to update was scrapped before that PDF was leaked, but that actual draft "improvements slick" (as we call them) was more than likely dug out of the Recycle Bin on someone's computer.
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    07-09-2011 02:23 PM
  22. ragnarokx's Avatar
    Trolling posts deleted, and consider this a warning for posters from this point on. If you don't like this thread or a person in it, don't post here.

    Carry on
    07-09-2011 03:06 PM
  23. Joe Taks's Avatar
    Anyone know what's up with the app tabbed layout view ?
    07-09-2011 03:09 PM
  24. robrecht's Avatar
    Trolling posts deleted, and consider this a warning for posters from this point on. If you don't like this thread or a person in it, don't post here.

    Carry on
    Darn, looks like I missed all the fun!

    Thanks, Robrecht
    07-09-2011 03:21 PM
  25. robrecht's Avatar
    Rob, what you are looking for is not going to be found yet. ...
    Maybe not yet, but soon enough for this thread to be interesting for a little while, at least for some of us. Do you know anything (that you're able to share) about recent or current test versions at Verizon?

    Thanks, Robrecht
    07-09-2011 03:28 PM
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