Anybody going to root to beat gb ota?

**recDNA** · 08-03-2011, 11:26 AM

Anybody going to root to beat gb ota?

I was considering it knowing it will only get harder once we get the gb

**Mordecaidrake** · 08-03-2011, 11:40 AM

I did it, I got tired of waiting and I'm not comfortably rooted without a single issue.

**pennywise** · 08-03-2011, 11:53 AM

I am still thinking about doing it. One good thing is we have about a year left before we even get gb

**Bolt_of_Thunder** · 08-03-2011, 12:17 PM

I haven't heard about the future gb update making it harder to root until now. Why would it be harder? Do you have a link to something talking about it? Thanks.

**PapaSmurf6768** · 08-03-2011, 12:20 PM

I rooted about a week ago and haven't looked back. It's actually a lot simpler then people make it sound, and you pick up on the whole flashing thing very quickly. I have dasBAMF 1.8.6 Remix installed and it's basically like being stock, w/out the OTA's

**fatboy97** · 08-03-2011, 12:22 PM

I've been flashing new GB ROMs for a while now... there are some very good ROMs out there now!!!

**zero neck** · 08-03-2011, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Bolt_of_Thunder

I haven't heard about the future gb update making it harder to root until now. Why would it be harder? Do you have a link to something talking about it? Thanks.

the current method of rooting (which was very difficult to attain according to those who figured it out) exploits basically a security flaw of some sort, so the rumor (maybe it's for certain i really dont know) is that htc has eliminated this flaw in their gingerbread build. if that's so, you can presume it will be even harder to work out a new way to get root after the gb update.

btw, for those who wish to root, i have to suggest reading ALOT before you do it, to try to get comfortable with the steps involved with rooting as well as making nandroid backups, flashing roms, and light troubleshooting, so you don't * up your phones.

**atakin77** · 08-03-2011, 03:07 PM

I rooted last week due to the mr2 update disabling Skype. Had been on the fence for a while. It was quick, relatively simple, and the best thing I have done. Gb has some neat little features that make it is worthwhile process. Running infuse theory, and love it. Honestly, I don't know why I waited!

**Jux** · 08-03-2011, 03:28 PM

Rooted two weeks ago and I'm running a ROM with the 2.3.5 GB. Love it. Haven't looked back once.

**Bolt_of_Thunder** · 08-03-2011, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by zero neck

the current method of rooting (which was very difficult to attain according to those who figured it out) exploits basically a security flaw of some sort, so the rumor (maybe it's for certain i really dont know) is that htc has eliminated this flaw in their gingerbread build. if that's so, you can presume it will be even harder to work out a new way to get root after the gb update.

btw, for those who wish to root, i have to suggest reading ALOT before you do it, to try to get comfortable with the steps involved with rooting as well as making nandroid backups, flashing roms, and light troubleshooting, so you don't * up your phones.

I'm surprised htc would do that seeing as they are unlocking the bootloaders on their newer phones now. Either way I'm going to root my new refurb soon, I can't stand the bloatware or the dumb recent apps on the pulldown menu or the ota update trying to push automatically or... you get the idea lol

**paintdrinkingpete** · 08-03-2011, 07:28 PM

First and foremost, if you're one of the people sitting on the fence while you're reading this post, I highly recommend reading this:
[FAQ] Should I Root My Thunderbolt?
(shameless plug)

Originally Posted by Bolt_of_Thunder

I haven't heard about the future gb update making it harder to root until now. Why would it be harder? Do you have a link to something talking about it? Thanks.

Originally Posted by zero neck

the current method of rooting (which was very difficult to attain according to those who figured it out) exploits basically a security flaw of some sort, so the rumor (maybe it's for certain i really dont know) is that htc has eliminated this flaw in their gingerbread build. if that's so, you can presume it will be even harder to work out a new way to get root after the gb update.

That's pretty much right on the money.

In the thread I linked to above, I actually posted the twitter link from when this information became public. Incredible 2 users are already having to deal with this. Jcase is a pretty well known and well trusted developer, who usually has the type of access it would take to know this information to be true.

Originally Posted by Bolt_of_Thunder

I'm surprised htc would do that seeing as they are unlocking the bootloaders on their newer phones now.

A security exploit is still a security exploit. It's good practice to patch it, even if thus far we've only been this exploit to perform a function and place our phones in a state that HTC has claimed they will be shipping all future phones. It isn't about stopping us from rooting...it's about patching a security flaw.

Unfortunately, we don't know any other way to unlock the Thunderbolt's bootloader...which is why applying the GB update will prevent you from rooting your device in the future.

**Bolt_of_Thunder** · 08-03-2011, 08:15 PM

Thanks for your explanations paint. I was going to wait for the official release of gb for the bolt before I rooted again but it looks like I won't any longer. I'll just stay away from the unofficial mr2 radio this time.

My next question is kinda off topic. I'm going to root again but am wondering if flashing the offical mr2 radio (rooted version) versus the unofficial mr2 will get rid of the free mobile hotspot. Or doesn't it matter since i'll be rooted.

**zero neck** · 08-03-2011, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Bolt_of_Thunder

Thanks for your explanations paint. I was going to wait for the official release of gb for the bolt before I rooted again but it looks like I won't any longer. I'll just stay away from the unofficial mr2 radio this time.

My next question is kinda off topic. I'm going to root again but am wondering if flashing the offical mr2 radio (rooted version) versus the unofficial mr2 will get rid of the free mobile hotspot. Or doesn't it matter since i'll be rooted.

If the ROM supports the hotspot app it should work with whatever compatible radio, just make sure the app works with your ROM and you should be ok.

**paintdrinkingpete** · 08-03-2011, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by Bolt_of_Thunder

Thanks for your explanations paint. I was going to wait for the official release of gb for the bolt before I rooted again but it looks like I won't any longer. I'll just stay away from the unofficial mr2 radio this time.

My next question is kinda off topic. I'm going to root again but am wondering if flashing the offical mr2 radio (rooted version) versus the unofficial mr2 will get rid of the free mobile hotspot. Or doesn't it matter since i'll be rooted.

Yeah, I believe the hospital is more of a software issue, and not dependant on radio version.

EDIT: Obviously, I meant "hot spot"... that's what I get for posting from my phone!

**wseyller** · 08-03-2011, 08:55 PM

Well once you get gingerbread it is game over unless some exploit gets found. Look what recently happened to some htc evo users. Now it seems HTC is offering a method to unlock your boot loader soon but youj basically have to sign away your warranty.

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**ivanrooni** · 08-06-2011, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by Jux

Rooted two weeks ago and I'm running a ROM with the 2.3.5 GB. Love it. Haven't looked back once.

**ivanrooni** · 08-06-2011, 10:07 AM

May ask the best way to root the thunderbolt? Tired of waiting. For the stock version. After one step z4rooting of my x I hope to do so with my TB.

Please advise. Thanks!

**recDNA** · 08-06-2011, 12:34 PM

I can tell you the best place to look is in the sticky forum on rooting and roms. I've done a lot of reading there and it verges on TOO much information...which in this case is a GOOD thing.

I was just curious if folks felt "under the gun" to root now for fear we won't be able to later.

I would love it if htc offered an "official" way to unlock the bootloader and I don't think they should be expected to service phones bricked by users. On the other hand if an electronic failure (like led's break or screen wont turn on) I think they should honor the warranty (although I know they don't).

Dell must envy the ability to void a warranty because a user messes up the operating system!

**Cyber Warrior** · 08-06-2011, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by ivanrooni

May ask the best way to root the thunderbolt? Tired of waiting. For the stock version. After one step z4rooting of my x I hope to do so with my TB.

Please advise. Thanks!

Everything you need is in the stickies on top of the page for rooting, roms and hacks.
This is the closest thing to z4root that you will find for the Bolt. Its not a one click... Its more of a 4-5 click but its the best auto root program. There are also two more stickies.. one for manually rooting using ADB for Windows and another for Mac.
Here: [Auto] Root and Unroot (Windows)**Updated**5/20** w/MR1 update

**Ztrangero** · 08-06-2011, 08:31 PM

I just rooted my bolt 2 days ago installed DAS BAMF with sense 3.0 and couldn't be happier. I knew the bolt wasn't going to get sense 3.0 so I decided to go that way and on top finally getting gingerbread. So basically if any1 still undecided give rooting a try... Couldn't be happier I mean my bolt looks really sexy with gb and sense 3.0

**MRW1215** · 08-06-2011, 09:11 PM

I've kinda pondered on rooting, but I've ultimately never gone through with it, partially because I don't do a lot of "hacking" stuff, so I'd be too worried I'd screw up my phone. On top of that, I'm not really unhappy with anything about my phone, as it is, so I really don't know that rooting would have much benefit for me.

Anyway, the most recent updates (about the GB update being on hold "indefinitely") have made it sound like the Thunderbolt may not get Gingerbread at all, anymore. So who knows?

**MhzMonster** · 08-06-2011, 09:15 PM

I'm on the fence about rooting my thunderbolt and would like to know afew things from those who made the jump. I've always had problems with the data connection randomly dropping out before and after the updates and whether it's when using the Mobile Hot Spot feature or tethered with USB. Has anyone had this issue and it was solved after they rooted there phone? If so, which ROM are you using? And before I journey into the Root and Rom forums, I'm aware that the Verizon updates will no longer be pushed or notify me they are available, what about the installed apps through andriod/amazon market? And if I were to back it up with the recommended software, if I decide to go back to the previous (verizon) ROM, is it completely reversible? Thanks in advance.

**ambushbug73** · 08-06-2011, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by MRW1215

I've kinda pondered on rooting, but I've ultimately never gone through with it, partially because I don't do a lot of "hacking" stuff, so I'd be too worried I'd screw up my phone. On top of that, I'm not really unhappy with anything about my phone, as it is, so I really don't know that rooting would have much benefit for me.

Anyway, the most recent updates (about the GB update being on hold "indefinitely") have made it sound like the Thunderbolt may not get Gingerbread at all, anymore. So who knows?

Actually HTC reps earlier this week said GB would be out this quarter so take that for what its worth.

**zero neck** · 08-06-2011, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by Ambushbug

Actually HTC reps earlier this week said GB would be out this quarter so take that for what its worth.

there was a new gb leak a few weeks ago - not sure if you guys have been talking about it over here - available with root from themikmik.com - it's awesome, and fairly stable, which i would assume means that there is a gb update coming our way OTA in the near future.

**nate44** · 08-06-2011, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by MhzMonster

I'm on the fence about rooting my thunderbolt and would like to know afew things from those who made the jump. I've always had problems with the data connection randomly dropping out before and after the updates and whether it's when using the Mobile Hot Spot feature or tethered with USB. Has anyone had this issue and it was solved after they rooted there phone? If so, which ROM are you using? And before I journey into the Root and Rom forums, I'm aware that the Verizon updates will no longer be pushed or notify me they are available, what about the installed apps through andriod/amazon market? And if I were to back it up with the recommended software, if I decide to go back to the previous (verizon) ROM, is it completely reversible? Thanks in advance.

Use The newest release is working very well for me on Gingeritis 3D. You have to configure the settings to match HTC, and select Thunderbolt profile.

Official updates will be available for rooted users days or even weeks before the masses will receive the update. A basic debloated ROM based on the update will be avaialable soon thereafter, and full blown custom ROMS after that.

All of your apps will work and update just as they would on stock ROM. You can use MyBackup to save app data, text messages, etc. Just make sure you don't backup/restore system data to a new ROM. Rooting also gives you access to applications like Titanium backup, Set CPU, ROM Manager, etc.

If you wanted for whatever reason you can go back to the stock ROM.

If you're serious about rooting, then you need to invest some time and do some reading. I'd recommend these guides as must reads for anyone interested in the whole process:

[FAQ] Should I Root My Thunderbolt?

[Guide] How to Backup, Restore & Install ROMs on The Thunderbolt

[Guide] How to Backup and Restore Apps and Data when installing new ROMs

[Guide] Upgrade to MR2+ Compatible Rom+Radio From MR1 after Root

It's essential to pay close attention to what you're doing and make sure you follow directions exactly. If you don't then that's when you'll run into problems. If you're unsure about something, ask a question before you do it. Good luck