12-04-2012 10:31 AM
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  1. ErrorProxy's Avatar
    Can I activate this phone with Verizon without a data plan at all. Just talk and text.

    I read only droid phones are required to have $30 data plans. This technically isn't a droid.. is it?..

    Or am i just being silly.

    Is there some loophole besides these techniques: How Can I Use My Smartphone Without a Data Plan?
    12-25-2011 06:57 PM
  2. DrDiff's Avatar
    You are being silly. If you want ANY smart phone on Verizon you have to have a data plan.

    Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
    12-25-2011 07:08 PM
  3. Jeenyus's Avatar
    Pretty sure you can. However, it'll cost you more if there's no data plan if you buy new from Verizon. You might have to full price of the phone
    12-25-2011 07:35 PM
  4. pingplayer01's Avatar
    Can I activate this phone with Verizon without a data plan at all. Just talk and text.

    I read only droid phones are required to have $30 data plans. This technically isn't a droid.. is it?..

    Or am i just being silly.

    Is there some loophole besides these techniques: How Can I Use My Smartphone Without a Data Plan?
    If you activate ANY Verizon smart phone, you are required to have a data plan. The only way for you not to have a data plan is to buy it full retail and not activate it at all (just use wifi).
    12-25-2011 07:42 PM
  5. dpham00's Avatar
    Pretty sure you can. However, it'll cost you more if there's no data plan if you buy new from Verizon. You might have to full price of the phone
    You can't run it on Verizons network without data , I bought a no contract phone before and still had to pay for the data plan. You can buy the $20/mo data plan for smartphone,that's the currently lowest plan for smartphones.

    The only option to use the thunderbolt on Verizon's network without data plan is through a mvno like page plus, but getting it activated on pp is tricky.
    12-25-2011 08:34 PM
  6. johnriii's Avatar
    yes, you must have a data plan.
    12-25-2011 08:49 PM
  7. ErrorProxy's Avatar
    Does it matter since I'm buying it from eBay and not from Verizon?

    How's that? Activate without telling them it's a smartphone?

    Well, any loopholes?
    12-25-2011 09:34 PM
  8. FrankXS's Avatar
    Well, any loopholes?
    Nope.

    -Frank

    Sent from my HTC ThunderBolt 4G/LTE using Tapatalk
    12-25-2011 09:56 PM
  9. dragonsamus's Avatar
    It would be awesome if we could but we can't. Just pick the cheapest plan.
    12-25-2011 10:08 PM
  10. dpham00's Avatar
    Does it matter since I'm buying it from eBay and not from Verizon?

    How's that? Activate without telling them it's a smartphone?

    Well, any loopholes?
    No way around it. Verizon has the esn for every phone on Verizon's network,so they know what the phone is when you activate. Unless you use mvno.
    12-25-2011 10:25 PM
  11. Jude526's Avatar
    There is no way to activate without a data plan. Cannot get around it no matter what you say or do. Get a dumb phone then

    Sent from my Thunderbolt using Tapatalk
    12-26-2011 12:34 AM
  12. davidsnoodles's Avatar
    i'll try to make this easy for you, rather than having to figure out who's right and who's wrong.

    you are required to pay at least $20 a month for the lowest data package on verizon right now when you activate any smartphone on verizon's network, meaning if you want to make calls and text from a smart phone, then you have to have the data package. it doesn't not matter where you buy your phone, from ebay, best buy, a friend - when you activate your phone, the ESN/MEID number will tell verizon what kind of phone is being added, and at that point you will be required to add the data package to your account. no, you cannot tell them another ESN/MEID number otherwise your device will not be activated.
    12-26-2011 01:20 AM
  13. worwig's Avatar
    They started this 3 years ago (I believe). I still have a couple of old Windows Mobile smartphones that are grandfathered in. So those I can activate and have data blocked. Anything sold after that data (November 2009 I believe) MUST have data activated.
    And I suspect that if I tried to activate one of those old WinMo phones that do not require data, 99% of the VZW reps would be ignorant of the fact that they can be activated without a data plan. Don't think I want to go through that pain.
    12-26-2011 08:37 AM
  14. dpham00's Avatar
    They started this 3 years ago (I believe). I still have a couple of old Windows Mobile smartphones that are grandfathered in. So those I can activate and have data blocked. Anything sold after that data (November 2009 I believe) MUST have data activated.
    And I suspect that if I tried to activate one of those old WinMo phones that do not require data, 99% of the VZW reps would be ignorant of the fact that they can be activated without a data plan. Don't think I want to go through that pain.
    The cut-off date is November 2008. This is the list of smartphones that do not require a data plan on Verizon.

    Smartphones that DO NOT require a data plan (pre-Nov. 14, 2008)
    1) HTC Fusion (SMT5800) - no wifi
    2) HTC Touch (XV6900) - no wifi
    3) Motorola Q9M/Q9C/Q - no wifi
    4) Palm Centro - no wifi
    5) Samsung SCH-i760 - WIFI
    6) HTC Mogul (XV6800) - WIFI
    7) Palm Treo 700w/700wx - no wifi
    8) Pantech PN-820 - no wifi, but one of the few clamshell smartphones available
    9) Palm Treo 700p - no wifi
    10) Palm Treo 750p - no wifi
    11) Samsung SCH-I830 - no wifi
    12) HTC Apache (XV6700) - WIFI
    13) Samsung SCH-I730 - WIFI
    14) Palm Treo 650 - no wifi
    15) HTC Harrier (XV6600) - no wifi

    Definitive list: smartphones that do/do not require data plans
    12-26-2011 01:27 PM
  15. ErrorProxy's Avatar
    No way around it. Verizon has the esn for every phone on Verizon's network,so they know what the phone is when you activate. Unless you use mvno.
    How much will an mnvo cost from Verizon?

    Or do they even have one..
    12-26-2011 01:27 PM
  16. paintdrinkingpete's Avatar
    When you consider that the Thunderbolt is a 4G LTE phone with a SIM card (and therefore different activation mechanism), it would probably be even more difficult to activate a Thunderbolt on Verizon without a dataplan than a 3G only smartphone. Just a guess, as EVERY 4G LTE phone they offer is a smartphone that requires a data plan.
    12-26-2011 01:32 PM
  17. ErrorProxy's Avatar
    How about the old Smart phones?

    Say, this one: Amazon.com: Verizon Motorola Droid A855 Android Cell Phone (no contract): Cell Phones & Accessories

    Last question then this thread can be closed. I'm reluctant to face the cold hard truth.
    12-26-2011 06:50 PM
  18. PJnc284's Avatar
    No, the OG Droid came out in late 09 so that'd fall after the mandatory data cut-off
    12-26-2011 07:01 PM
  19. dpham00's Avatar
    How much will an mnvo cost from Verizon?

    Or do they even have one..
    There are a number of mvno for Verizon. Note that mvno are separate entities that operate on Verizon or another carrier's network. The thunderbolt isn't officially supported on say page plus, but I have read of someone tweaking their thunderbolt to get it to work on page plus . http://www.mvnolist.com/



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    12-26-2011 07:23 PM
  20. dpham00's Avatar
    12-26-2011 07:24 PM
  21. ErrorProxy's Avatar
    So.. how does one start using mnvo?.. What are the requirements? How much does it cost?
    12-26-2011 08:59 PM
  22. dpham00's Avatar
    So.. how does one start using mnvo?.. What are the requirements? How much does it cost?
    Officially, only select phones are supported by the mvno, but like I said before, I have read of success running the thunderbolt on page plus. The cost depends on what you want, you can read about the plans here. http://www.pagepluscellular.com/
    12-26-2011 09:55 PM
  23. Jude526's Avatar
    When you consider that the Thunderbolt is a 4G LTE phone with a SIM card (and therefore different activation mechanism), it would probably be even more difficult to activate a Thunderbolt on Verizon without a dataplan than a 3G only smartphone. Just a guess, as EVERY 4G LTE phone they offer is a smartphone that requires a data plan.
    It runs 3g and 4g but can't be activated without the SIM....it is for the 4g. The Incredible2 is a 3g and still requires a data plan. All smartphones whether blackberry 3g and 4 g. No getting around it

    Sent from my Thunderbolt using Tapatalk
    12-27-2011 01:14 AM
  24. tropper's Avatar
    The only way you can do it is to go to a Verizon prepaid prepay store
    12-27-2011 07:05 AM
  25. wildman's Avatar
    So.. how does one start using mnvo?.. What are the requirements? How much does it cost?
    Verizon Wireless - Authorized Retailers & MVNO Program

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/e?l...token=0UHvm-be
    12-27-2011 03:03 PM
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