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  1. Markster1's Avatar
    I'm sure everyone knows this already, but in case it was never clearly stated...

    I went in for an upgrade (Launch day TBolt here) last weekend with a sliver of hope that because the account holder on our family plan still had unlimited data, I MIGHT be able to piggy back off of that and keep unlimited for my line also.

    No can do. They told me if I wanted to upgrade my phone at contract price, I had to pay full retail. I told them I was switching that day (free GS3 from T-Mobile? Yes please!) if that was the case, and he didn't change his answer.

    So the absolute only way to keep unlimited data AND use your upgrade at this point in time is through the loophole discussed in this thread. No piggy-backing, so to speak, off of other lines' contracts at all.
    Never an option

    The Nottinator
    11-21-2012 06:47 AM
  2. primevyl's Avatar
    I'm sure everyone knows this already, but in case it was never clearly stated...

    I went in for an upgrade (Launch day TBolt here) last weekend with a sliver of hope that because the account holder on our family plan still had unlimited data, I MIGHT be able to piggy back off of that and keep unlimited for my line also.

    No can do. They told me if I wanted to upgrade my phone at contract price, I had to pay full retail. I told them I was switching that day (free GS3 from T-Mobile? Yes please!) if that was the case, and he didn't change his answer.

    So the absolute only way to keep unlimited data AND use your upgrade at this point in time is through the loophole discussed in this thread. No piggy-backing, so to speak, off of other lines' contracts at all.
    Not even for a second, did this ever work
    11-21-2012 06:55 AM
  3. chuckawd's Avatar
    I think we need to make a step by step guide to upgrading and keeping unlimited data and then either sticky it or make it stand out in this thread.

    I will write it out tonight and next week when I verify that it works, I will revise the instructions.

    Sent from AOSP Thundershed powered 4GLTE Thunderbolt
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    11-21-2012 09:05 AM
  4. primevyl's Avatar
    I think we need to make a step by step guide to upgrading and keeping unlimited data and then either sticky it or make it stand out in this thread.

    I will write it out tonight and next week when I verify that it works, I will revise the instructions.

    Sent from AOSP Thundershed powered 4GLTE Thunderbolt
    Smart thinking

    <<<Sent from my Rooted (soon to be) 64+ gig Rezound!>>>
    11-21-2012 10:16 AM
  5. pblakk's Avatar
    They told me if I wanted to upgrade my phone at contract price, I had to pay full retail.
    Maybe you just typed that fast....but the above statement makes no sense. When you pay "full retail" you are not extending your contract. You simply would have purchased a new phone. Nothing on your account would be affected.

    It's just that the term upgrading is used loosely but really means buying a discounted phone and of course extending your contract.



    Sent from my DROID RAZR HD
    11-21-2012 05:19 PM
  6. Jude526's Avatar
    You will lose the unlimited unless you pay full retail. And honestly...I gave up the unlimited for the share everything. I am actually saving money. I had 6gig plan but I never go over 3 for the most part so i lowered it to 4 gig. You can use the 6gig and if you get a corporate discount like I do....even better. If you replaced the dumb with a smart plan you'll still lose the unlimited. Like I previously said...paying retail is only way you will keep unlimited

    sent from either my HTC Rezound or my Samsung Galaxy 10.1 tablet
    11-21-2012 06:02 PM
  7. chuckawd's Avatar
    You will lose the unlimited unless you pay full retail. And honestly...I gave up the unlimited for the share everything. I am actually saving money. I had 6gig plan but I never go over 3 for the most part so i lowered it to 4 gig. You can use the 6gig and if you get a corporate discount like I do....even better. If you replaced the dumb with a smart plan you'll still lose the unlimited. Like I previously said...paying retail is only way you will keep unlimited

    sent from either my HTC Rezound or my Samsung Galaxy 10.1 tablet
    So if I upgrade a basic line that I have to a smartphone and then reactivate the basic line back onto its line, I will lose unlimited data on my other line that currently has unlimited once I activate the newly deactivated note 2 onto that line?

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    11-21-2012 06:15 PM
  8. Markster1's Avatar
    So if I upgrade a basic line that I have to a smartphone and then reactivate the basic line back onto its line, I will lose unlimited data on my other line that currently has unlimited once I activate the newly deactivated note 2 onto that line?

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    No

    The Nottinator
    11-21-2012 06:59 PM
  9. chuckawd's Avatar
    No

    The Nottinator
    Isn't that what Jude526 is saying in her second to last sentence. I may also just be confused.

    Sent from AOSP Thundershed powered 4GLTE Thunderbolt
    11-21-2012 07:46 PM
  10. Markster1's Avatar
    She is saying you have to pay full retail to keep unlimited. You don't!

    You either upgrade a dumb phone line or add a new line to get your new smartphone then after you have left the store, you switch that phone to your unlimited line and reactivate the dumb phone on the dumb phone line again.

    This will ensure you keep your unlimited plan.

    The Nottinator
    11-21-2012 08:25 PM
  11. pblakk's Avatar
    She is saying you have to pay full retail to keep unlimited. You don't!

    You either upgrade a dumb phone line or add a new line to get your new smartphone then after you have left the store, you switch that phone to your unlimited line and reactivate the dumb phone on the dumb phone line again.

    This will ensure you keep your unlimited plan.

    The Nottinator
    It doesn't matter, the store can activate your upgraded phone onto any line on the spot. This is not some loophole or secret thing...you're simply upgrading any given line but activating the phone on the line which happens to have your unlimited data.

    Sent from my DROID RAZR HD
    11-21-2012 09:33 PM
  12. chuckawd's Avatar
    It doesn't matter, the store can activate your upgraded phone onto any line on the spot. This is not some loophole or secret thing...you're simply upgrading any given line but activating the phone on the line which happens to have your unlimited data.

    Sent from my DROID RAZR HD
    So you can activate directly to any other line without consequence? I will be getting the Note 2(preordered so I will have to activate myself) next week and I used my other basic line to get the upgraded price so with that said, I can just immediately activate it on my unlimited line without first activating onto the basic line?

    I only ask because several sources including Verizon have told me that I had to first activate the new phone on the line I used for the upgrade which completes the upgrade process. If that is the case, I will have to get another sim card for the Note 2 because it will have the upgraded lines information tied to it.

    Sent from AOSP Thundershed powered 4GLTE Thunderbolt
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    11-21-2012 10:00 PM
  13. TBolt2011's Avatar
    Maybe you just typed that fast....but the above statement makes no sense. When you pay "full retail" you are not extending your contract. You simply would have purchased a new phone. Nothing on your account would be affected.

    It's just that the term upgrading is used loosely but really means buying a discounted phone and of course extending your contract.



    Sent from my DROID RAZR HD
    It actually does make sense, but I definitely could have worded it better. I meant subsidized.
    11-21-2012 11:13 PM
  14. BigMace23's Avatar
    So you can activate directly to any other line without consequence? I will be getting the Note 2(preordered so I will have to activate myself) next week and I used my other basic line to get the upgraded price so with that said, I can just immediately activate it on my unlimited line without first activating onto the basic line?

    I only ask because several sources including Verizon have told me that I had to first activate the new phone on the line I used for the upgrade which completes the upgrade process. If that is the case, I will have to get another sim card for the Note 2 because it will have the upgraded lines information tied to it.

    Sent from AOSP Thundershed powered 4GLTE Thunderbolt
    I'd like to know this also... I've heard mixed answers

    Sent from my ThunderBolt using Tapatalk 2
    11-22-2012 12:08 AM
  15. bjboucher's Avatar
    It doesn't matter, the store can activate your upgraded phone onto any line on the spot. This is not some loophole or secret thing...you're simply upgrading any given line but activating the phone on the line which happens to have your unlimited data.

    Sent from my DROID RAZR HD
    I don't think this is accurate. I have gone through this and the store had to activate my GS3 first on the line I was using to upgrade, then they moved it to my unlimited data line. If they activated it on my line first, I would've lost my unlimited data. So, for a normal upgrade when you you're not worried about changing the line (i.e. losing your unlimited data) they can just activate it onto whatever line they want but if you want to keep your line the same, they have activate on another line then move it over.
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    11-22-2012 06:48 AM
  16. Markster1's Avatar
    So you can activate directly to any other line without consequence? I will be getting the Note 2(preordered so I will have to activate myself) next week and I used my other basic line to get the upgraded price so with that said, I can just immediately activate it on my unlimited line without first activating onto the basic line?

    I only ask because several sources including Verizon have told me that I had to first activate the new phone on the line I used for the upgrade which completes the upgrade process. If that is the case, I will have to get another sim card for the Note 2 because it will have the upgraded lines information tied to it.

    Sent from AOSP Thundershed powered 4GLTE Thunderbolt
    Dial 877-807-4646 to activate and then transfer. You don't need another Sim card as i understand it.

    The Nottinator
    11-22-2012 07:07 AM
  17. hermes4's Avatar
    I'm in the same situation...I tried switching my 2 smart phones around (online) and it seemed that they would both lose their unlimited data. I went to 2 stores and they both claimed that "the phone was attached to the number" and that they couldn't change them w/o changing the plan. Granted, neither seemed too interested in actually helping me. I plan on following this plan: http://forums.androidcentral.com/ver...zon-print.html but right now I'm not so sure it'll work....
    11-26-2012 09:23 PM
  18. Markster1's Avatar
    Unless you are upgrading an unlimited line, you won't lose unlimited by switching a smartphone on it.

    Another thing to consider, if you ever put a dumb phone on an unlimited plan you will lose unlimited.

    The Nottinator
    11-27-2012 06:26 AM
  19. chuckawd's Avatar
    I'm in the same situation...I tried switching my 2 smart phones around (online) and it seemed that they would both lose their unlimited data. I went to 2 stores and they both claimed that "the phone was attached to the number" and that they couldn't change them w/o changing the plan. Granted, neither seemed too interested in actually helping me. I plan on following this plan: http://forums.androidcentral.com/ver...zon-print.html but right now I'm not so sure it'll work....
    Do you have unlimited data currently on both of your lines?

    Sent from AOSP Thundershed powered 4GLTE Thunderbolt
    11-27-2012 08:39 AM
  20. bjboucher's Avatar
    I'm in the same situation...I tried switching my 2 smart phones around (online) and it seemed that they would both lose their unlimited data. I went to 2 stores and they both claimed that "the phone was attached to the number" and that they couldn't change them w/o changing the plan. Granted, neither seemed too interested in actually helping me. I plan on following this plan: http://forums.androidcentral.com/ver...zon-print.html but right now I'm not so sure it'll work....
    If you only have 2 lines and they both have unlimited data you are going to lose that unlimited data on one of the lines if you upgrade at the subsidized price. No way around that.
    11-28-2012 05:39 AM
  21. dpham00's Avatar
    I'm in the same situation...I tried switching my 2 smart phones around (online) and it seemed that they would both lose their unlimited data. I went to 2 stores and they both claimed that "the phone was attached to the number" and that they couldn't change them w/o changing the plan. Granted, neither seemed too interested in actually helping me. I plan on following this plan: http://forums.androidcentral.com/ver...zon-print.html but right now I'm not so sure it'll work....

    Absolutely false... You can move phones around at any time without changing plans. I have done so many times. If you switch a smartphone with a dumb phone or vice versa then the data plan would change, but your voice plan would remain. The upgrade, however, is tied to the line.

    Sent from my Verizon Galaxy SIII
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    11-28-2012 11:24 AM
  22. angels728's Avatar
    Ok so let me see if I got this straight. Me and my cousin have a plan together. I have had the tbolt since day one so I have unlimited everything. He came on the plan a year ago and we share only minutes and he has 2 GB of data. My upgrade eligibility is 12/7/12 and his is sometime in April 2013. If I transfer my upgrade to his line, I can buy the SG3 on his line and then transfer it to my phone? Then in April 2013 I can then again transfer the upgrade to his line again and he can buy a new phone?
    11-28-2012 02:48 PM
  23. paulmike3's Avatar
    Ok so let me see if I got this straight. Me and my cousin have a plan together. I have had the tbolt since day one so I have unlimited everything. He came on the plan a year ago and we share only minutes and he has 2 GB of data. My upgrade eligibility is 12/7/12 and his is sometime in April 2013. If I transfer my upgrade to his line, I can buy the SG3 on his line and then transfer it to my phone? Then in April 2013 I can then again transfer the upgrade to his line again and he can buy a new phone?
    Yes.

    To clear it up for everyone, you need to activate the new device on the line that it was upgraded on (the second line that no longer will have unlimited data). You then need to re-activate the old device on the second line, and wait 24 hours for the SIM to become inactive. You can then activate the new device on any line (yours or anyone's) with the SIM it came with and keep the data plan you have (unlimited).

    The key here is that the new device must be activated first on the upgraded (second) line. If you try to go straight to activating it on the (primary) unlimited data line, you'll get a message (online) that you need to change your plan to use the device (since the SIM is programmed and expecting to be activated on the second line). Once it's been activated and deactivated on the second line, that message clears and you're set to activate it on your unlimited line without changing the data package or losing unlimited data.

    Source: My upgrade over the weekend - unlimited data for the next 2 years on my new, $199 DROID DNA.
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    11-28-2012 11:48 PM
  24. primevyl's Avatar
    Yes.

    To clear it up for everyone, you need to activate the new device on the line that it was upgraded on (the second line that no longer will have unlimited data). You then need to re-activate the old device on the second line, and wait 24 hours for the SIM to become inactive. You can then activate the new device on any line (yours or anyone's) with the SIM it came with and keep the data plan you have (unlimited).

    The key here is that the new device must be activated first on the upgraded (second) line. If you try to go straight to activating it on the (primary) unlimited data line, you'll get a message (online) that you need to change your plan to use the device (since the SIM is programmed and expecting to be activated on the second line). Once it's been activated and deactivated on the second line, that message clears and you're set to activate it on your unlimited line without changing the data package or losing unlimited data.

    Source: My upgrade over the weekend - unlimited data for the next 2 years on my new, $199 DROID DNA.
    Make this a sticky

    <<<Sent from my Rooted (soon to be) 64+ gig Rezound!>>>
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    11-29-2012 11:50 AM
  25. chuckawd's Avatar
    Yes.

    To clear it up for everyone, you need to activate the new device on the line that it was upgraded on (the second line that no longer will have unlimited data). You then need to re-activate the old device on the second line, and wait 24 hours for the SIM to become inactive. You can then activate the new device on any line (yours or anyone's) with the SIM it came with and keep the data plan you have (unlimited).

    The key here is that the new device must be activated first on the upgraded (second) line. If you try to go straight to activating it on the (primary) unlimited data line, you'll get a message (online) that you need to change your plan to use the device (since the SIM is programmed and expecting to be activated on the second line). Once it's been activated and deactivated on the second line, that message clears and you're set to activate it on your unlimited line without changing the data package or losing unlimited data.

    Source: My upgrade over the weekend - unlimited data for the next 2 years on my new, $199 DROID DNA.
    Verizon, over the phone, just said that I cannot make this happen. What a freakin major issue here.

    Sent from AOSP Thundershed powered 4GLTE Thunderbolt
    11-29-2012 01:52 PM
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