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    Quote Originally Posted by paulmike3 View Post
    Yes.

    To clear it up for everyone, you need to activate the new device on the line that it was upgraded on (the second line that no longer will have unlimited data). You then need to re-activate the old device on the second line, and wait 24 hours for the SIM to become inactive. You can then activate the new device on any line (yours or anyone's) with the SIM it came with and keep the data plan you have (unlimited).

    The key here is that the new device must be activated first on the upgraded (second) line. If you try to go straight to activating it on the (primary) unlimited data line, you'll get a message (online) that you need to change your plan to use the device (since the SIM is programmed and expecting to be activated on the second line). Once it's been activated and deactivated on the second line, that message clears and you're set to activate it on your unlimited line without changing the data package or losing unlimited data.

    Source: My upgrade over the weekend - unlimited data for the next 2 years on my new, $199 DROID DNA.
    Can I just go get a new SIM card instead of waiting 24hrs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulmike3 View Post
    Yes.

    To clear it up for everyone, you need to activate the new device on the line that it was upgraded on (the second line that no longer will have unlimited data). You then need to re-activate the old device on the second line, and wait 24 hours for the SIM to become inactive. You can then activate the new device on any line (yours or anyone's) with the SIM it came with and keep the data plan you have (unlimited).

    The key here is that the new device must be activated first on the upgraded (second) line. If you try to go straight to activating it on the (primary) unlimited data line, you'll get a message (online) that you need to change your plan to use the device (since the SIM is programmed and expecting to be activated on the second line). Once it's been activated and deactivated on the second line, that message clears and you're set to activate it on your unlimited line without changing the data package or losing unlimited data.

    Source: My upgrade over the weekend - unlimited data for the next 2 years on my new, $199 DROID DNA.

    you shouldn't have to wait 24 hours, or at least I didnt. Just activate the phone on the line that it was upgraded on and then switch to whatever line you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dpham00 View Post
    you shouldn't have to wait 24 hours, or at least I didnt. Just activate the phone on the line that it was upgraded on and then switch to whatever line you want.
    Got it all taken care of at an actual store. Unlimited data remains.

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    Yes! Launch day Thunderbolt owner and now launch day Note II owner. I have 3 lines (2 smartphone and 1 feature phone) and I was able to use the feature phone upgrade, deactivate the Note from that line, activate it to my unlimited line, and reactivate the feature phone - all in the Verizon store. Took about 20 minutes overall. Confirmed that I still have unlimited and feature phone is back to normal. Will keep my trusty Thunderbolt as a wi-fi device and as a potential back-up, in case. Followed the directions here (Thanks chuckawd! ). Will still lurk in the Thunderbolt forums since it was a great rooted phone - until those data drops at the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckawd View Post
    Verizon, over the phone, just said that I cannot make this happen. What a freakin major issue here.
    Don't do it over the phone. Walk into a VZW store, tell them you want to xfer your upgrade to your second line and use it to buy a new device. Once they do the purchase and activate it, verify your unlimited line still has unlimited data (this transaction does not touch that line, so unless they borked it, this should be fine). Go home and reactivate your old second line device. You then have a free and clear new device to activate on any line you want without having to change the data plan.

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckawd View Post
    Can I just go get a new SIM card instead of waiting 24hrs?
    Yes, that should work, provided you've already activated (and then deactivated) it once on the line it was upgraded on.

    Quote Originally Posted by dpham00 View Post
    you shouldn't have to wait 24 hours, or at least I didnt. Just activate the phone on the line that it was upgraded on and then switch to whatever line you want.
    Yeah, likely the case. I didn't use the "switch" option on the VZW site, I used the "activate a device" option. This caused the SIM to be tied up until it went to inactivate after 24 hours. The "switch" option probably eliminates the need. However, as was the case with me, I didn't use the switch since I wanted the old device back on the second line. If I would have used the switch, I would have had the primary line device active as my second line device.
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    First off let me tell you how much I am starting to hate Verizon! Maybe not Verizon but definitely the store by my house!
    Last nite I went to a store near where I was at, and inquired about upgrading my basic lines on our Family Share plan
    and then transfer to the main lines, and he knew exactly what I was talking about, but it was the night before launch date!
    So today I went to the verizon store by my work, and they even knew what I wanted, and had the transaction almost done but they
    ran out of the white Galaxy note 2! So I made an appointment at my local store, and they flat out said I couldn't do it due
    to some hogwash about losing the warranty on my "NEW Galaxy Note 2" and totally losing my unlimited data! I want to
    try to follow the instructions on here to do it online, but my question is when you have to reactivate the feature phone lines
    I don't phsically have the phones, my nephews lost them in the beginning of the 2 yr plan! I only have the phone numbers!
    How does one reactivate the lines without an actual phone! I have been paying on both these lines since the contract ended
    in February, just to use them for upgrades every other year! Do you need the phones to or is it just the lines to use this plan???
    Thank you to this awesome community that has been part of my life for the past two years! If anyone can chime in and let me know
    what I should do! I was all excited to again to be part of release day for a new phone!
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    You need the esn or imei number off the old phone to reactivate it.

    Personally, if those phones are lost, I would cancel those lines, they're not doing you any good.

    Since you still have unlimited on your main line, just add a new line, get the note on it then transfer your old phone to that number and your new note to the unlimited number.

    That's the only way I see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markster1 View Post
    You need the esn or imei number off the old phone to reactivate it.

    Personally, if those phones are lost, I would cancel those lines, they're not doing you any good.

    Since you still have unlimited on your main line, just add a new line, get the note on it then transfer your old phone to that number and your new note to the unlimited number.

    That's the only way I see it.

    Sent from my Verizon Note 2, finally!
    So if I do get 2 new lines and then transfer the notes to my main line and hubby line
    Can I then suspend the new lines so I am only paying $9.99 plus taxes for my new
    lines like I do now???
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    Quote Originally Posted by delynnie View Post
    So if I do get 2 new lines and then transfer the notes to my main line and hubby line
    Can I then suspend the new lines so I am only paying $9.99 plus taxes for my new
    lines like I do now???
    No, but if you don't have the phones to reactivate or know the id numbers they are doing you no good. I'm assuming you both have smart phones right now so new lines would run you 40 a month unless you can find some old dumb phones to reactivate on there.

    Sent from my Verizon Note 2, finally!
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    All, I have faithfully read through this entire thread and tried out a couple things on the Verizon website, without actually checking out. 1) I have a BB Curve, almost 5 years old, unlimited data, out of contract and eligible for upgrade. I believe Verizon considers this line #2 if it makes any difference. This is on Share plan with other phone and has unlimited data plus I pay for tethering. Phone is nearly dead. 2) Other phone is dumbphone (LG Envy) on Line #1 and is eligible for upgrade and $30 credit. The phone still has some life left in it, but may go in a few months.

    I want to put the GSN2 on the unlimited line. I will start by buying/activating it on contract on line #1 and removing Envy, then theoretically I can switch it to the BB Curve line and get rid of the BB Curve. Then I can put the Envy back on its old line??

    Some glitches I noticed on the Verizon website:

    1) First I tried upgrading the unlimited line which of course got rid of unlimited, but that's not the issue. I kept Family Share, rather than going to Share Everything.When I went to add hotspot, there was only one choice, for $30. (I now pay $20 for 2 GB tethering).
    2) Next after reading this I tried upgrading the Envy line to GSN2, and the website kept giving me problems but it looked like it would finally allow it. (credited $30 for $269 price then added upgrade fee of $30.) When I got to the Features page, however, there was no option to add hotspot.

    Do any of you who have done this thing use the phone as a hotspot/tether for your laptop? (I've been averaging slightly over 2 GB tethering, with a crappy connection that keeps disconnecting me and forcing me to re-download data.) Is Verizon looking at me trying to upgrade the dumbphone and refusing to allow hotspot, anticipating my next move or what?

    What about the person who said Verizon will charge full retail for the phone if I end up going through this process to keep unlimited data? I take it some of you have been successful doing this with the GSN2 with no suggestion that they're going to come back and charge you $400 more?

    After I transfer the GSN2 to my unlimited line, I can then transfer the upgrade to my other line so I won't have to wait 2 more years to upgrade that one, correct?

    Has anyone considered doing this through Costco Wireless? I suppose at worst I can go over there and see what happens. I'd like to get the Costco/AmEx warranty plus the free accessory package if possible. I'm probably asking for too much though.

    Thanks much for continuing this thread. It's awesome.

    Edits: 1) Does the fact that the old Blackberry doesn't have a SIM card cause an issue? 2) I'll note that by upgrading the Envy I lose my "new every 2" discount. (BTW, BB used to be the primary phone, but when we moved and changed the # on the Envy, the Verizon rep switched them around somehow. Maybe I should switch tem back first, if it makes any difference??)
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    Sounds like delynnie needs to go on Freecycle to get an old but working free Verizon phone and then activate it on one of the old lines, then start the process.... ?

    The problem with using new lines for this process is that the new lines will not have available upgrades, unless it's correct that upgrades can be transferred. There seems to be some disagreement on this point.
    Last edited by awiz; 11-30-2012 at 03:47 PM.
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    Awiz, not sure if you can successfully do this through a 3rd party vendor because they'll have their own restrictions on what you can do. Don't you have a Verizon store near you? That would be the easiest thing to do. Trying to do this yourself on-line could get tricky. If you do it through Verizon, you won't be charged full retail for your phone. I did this to get an SGS3 about 2 months ago without any issues. I used an upgrade from my wifes line to buy the phone, they activated it on her line which temporarily suspended service on her Thunderbolt. Then they moved the S3 to my line, keeping my unlimited data. Finally they reactivated her Thunderbolt on her line. So our plan stayed as it was and I was rocking my new S3 with unlimited data.

    Not sure if that helps but like I said, not sure if I would try this myself on-line and risk messing my account up and losing unlimited data. Let a store rep help you.
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    I'm definitely not going to try it online but I am going to Costco to see if they can do it.
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    Any advice for people with only 1 line on the account?

    My upgrade isn't until next year so if I add-a-line to get the SG3, can I still keep my unlimited?
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    Quote Originally Posted by awiz View Post
    I'm definitely not going to try it online but I am going to Costco to see if they can do it.
    Do the guys at Costco sell Verizon our are there actual Verizon guys there?
    All clear if its the latter, else abort

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrownSugar622 View Post
    Any advice for people with only 1 line on the account?

    My upgrade isn't until next year so if I add-a-line to get the SG3, can I still keep my unlimited?
    With just one line if you add a line it could get cost prohibitive

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    Quote Originally Posted by awiz View Post
    Sounds like delynnie needs to go on Freecycle to get an old but working free Verizon phone and then activate it on one of the old lines, then start the process.... ?

    The problem with using new lines for this process is that the new lines will not have available upgrades, unless it's correct that upgrades can be transferred. There seems to be some disagreement on this point.
    I went to a different Verizon, and found someone who actually cared, and he made it happen!!
    I used both my basic lines from my nephews old LG Chocolates, and purchased the Galaxy Note 2s,
    and then he transfered the new phones to our Thunderbolt lines, and Voila we have unlimited
    for 2 more years! Anyone in South Orange County, I did this at the Laguna Niguel store located
    on Alicia, and Pacific Park! See you at the Galaxy Note 2 forum! I have some learning how to
    use this Awesome Phone!
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    I don't want to be a killjoy but I do just want to point out that Verizon holds the power and can yank that unlimited data at any time. I have no insider knowledge but they surely want everyone off unlimited and will be quite bold in the rather near future since more and more people are going to upgrade on contract and lose that grandfathered plan. When the number gets small enough and it becomes clear those people are either not going to upgrade or jump through Verizons hoops to keep the plan (That's all a test btw. A test to see how many people will contort themselves to Verizons will just to keep that unlimited data. And I bet Verizon already has its answer: Not many. Not enough for them to care about losing what amounts to a handful of customers in the future.) they are going to do away with it. Do whatever you want but just don't be shocked if/when Verizon announces the end of grandfathered plans and forces you to go to 2gb per month for the same price you are paying now for unlimited. My guess is July 7, 2013. If things leak the way they have done historically from Verizon we'll see internal documents about this sometime in May.

    I know no one asked about this but I just though it was something you should keep in the back (or front) of your mind if you are trying to upgrade and stay with Verizon. Just my opinion of course but I believe it's almost certain to happen. Unlimited data will go away on Verizon. It's just a matter of time.
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    I don't think it will, purely speculation on my part but we will see.

    Sent from my Verizon Note 2, finally!
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    Thundersome, I did see someone post that thought previously which is why I am definitely not going to pay full retail. I did the calculations based on my data usage and I would lose badly. For those using 15Gb a month, it might work out. (Sure I'd like to watch movies on my phone, but I'm not going to pay $400 to do it.)

    If the guys at Costco can't do it, I've located a friendly Verizon guy who might help. (I haven't found many friendly Verizon guys in Houston, but if you know of one please let me know.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by thundersome View Post
    I don't want to be a killjoy but I do just

    I know.
    Pay your bills on time. I used to work for Big Red. Good pay history goes a long way. This has been one of the few paths around "policy" actions.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BrownSugar622 View Post
    Any advice for people with only 1 line on the account?

    My upgrade isn't until next year so if I add-a-line to get the SG3, can I still keep my unlimited?
    You probably could but unless you use A LOT of data, it would probably cheaper to just pay for your data usage on a limited plan.
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    New to the forum...sorry for the delayed response. Yes, I have 2 lines with unlimited data, 2 lines with no data, all in a family plan. I'm going to try to follow the instructions you posted (thank you very much, btw), makes sense that it would work...but when I asked about it at both stores located in the greater Baltimore area, they both said it could not be done. I did not press the issue because the Note 2 was still on pre-order, so I will try again now that the phone is out. I'll post back the results.

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckawd View Post
    Do you have unlimited data currently on both of your lines?

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    I have 1 line with unlimited. Could I add a second line with the note2 and keep unlimited for all? Or a stupid phone for 10 a month and transfer my upgrade. Further, when my contract on the first line expires in March, can I drop that phone off and still have the note on the unlimited? Thanks in advance for any help. I'm waiting on my 4th Thunderbolt replacement, need I say more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBoltJ View Post
    I have 1 line with unlimited. Could I add a second line with the note2 and keep unlimited for all? Or a stupid phone for 10 a month and transfer my upgrade. Further, when my contract on the first line expires in March, can I drop that phone off and still have the note on the unlimited? Thanks in advance for any help. I'm waiting on my 4th Thunderbolt replacement, need I say more?
    They don't offer unlimited anymore so if you started a new line, it will either be on the new Share plan or a single, limited (likely 2GB for $30) data plan. With only one line, it's really not cost effective to try and keep your unlimited. Your best bet is to probably just pay full retail for a phone, then you'll get to keep your unlimited.
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