Upcoming Thunderbolt or Possible Verizon Iphone

**biggie_56** · 01-09-2011, 03:37 PM

I don't mean to add to the speculation, or start another iphone vs. android argument, but want to get an opinion on my options.

I have had an upgrade available for a while now, and after playing with some of my friends phones I have decided that i want an android phone, preferably HTC, because i really like sense.

However, just like for most of us, CES was a big disappointment and almost all hope of the thunderbolt being released in January disappeared, along with rumors that Verizon is going to announce the iphone on Tuesday the 11th. Even if they announce Tuesday, its looking to be at least a month before the release, but would cut down on the wait time until March.

Ultimately it is up to personal preference between android and iOS, but i really don't want to wait. Does anyone have an idea what the event Tuesday is going to be about (like the fact that Verizon is in charge and not Apple)? I know I'm going to be happy with the iphone if it does come, but I'm really sold on the thunderbolt and am leaning towards March if need be.

**darkhemingway** · 01-09-2011, 03:56 PM

Yo i was thinking something similar, or actually just wondering how come people seem so sure that the iphone is going to be announced this week (I'm not saying it won't be but isn't it possible it's thunderbolt, or something relatively unrelated to either of these phones?)

**jaystang** · 01-09-2011, 03:57 PM

Just keep waiting it out. You will be happier in the long run. I currently have an iPhone 3G. My contract has been up since July and I've been waiting for the next best thing to come along (mainly the tbolt). In the grand scheme of things another month or two is a very small amount of time compared to the 2 year contract you will be in with whatever phone you choose.

**irishleo** · 01-09-2011, 04:04 PM

I can see Steve Jobs being the guy he is to announce his beloved IPhone on Jan 11-01 at 11:00am......so 01-11-11 at 1100. What are the odds anyone else would be this way???? Not sure. I don't think the IPhone will do as great as they think.

**biggie_56** · 01-09-2011, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by darkhemingway

Yo i was thinking something similar, or actually just wondering how come people seem so sure that the iphone is going to be announced this week (I'm not saying it won't be but isn't it possible it's thunderbolt, or something relatively unrelated to either of these phones?)

I'm still hoping that it might be the thunderbolt or something else related to LTE, maybe pricing?

Unfortunately for us, Verizon might have everything we want, and although it is great to have the option to choose, having to wait for those options sucks.

**darkhemingway** · 01-09-2011, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by biggie_56

I'm still hoping that it might be the thunderbolt or something else related to LTE, maybe pricing?

no doubt. i'd like to get the prices on lte and a release date for tbolt.

**Droid800** · 01-09-2011, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by biggie_56

I'm still hoping that it might be the thunderbolt or something else related to LTE, maybe pricing?

It isn't. Verizon wouldn't have invited all those Apple-friendly bloggers, and not invited Gizmodo, if it was just LTE pricing announcements.

**biggie_56** · 01-09-2011, 06:31 PM

It just seemed strange to me that Verizon is in charge instead of apple, but then again it isn't an apple keynote event. As much as i don't want to admit it, it does really look like the iphone is coming to verizon.

We'll find out on tuesday

**mdlissner** · 01-09-2011, 07:28 PM

Here is my plan of attack.

Wait for Tuesday announcement to see Verizon iPhone specs. If it is not an LTE version I go to the VZW store and buy a Droid X on the current upgrade I have and keep a 1 year upgrade for January 2012 before Verizon pushes for 20 months effective Sunday 1/16. Also gives me the 30 day return to get an iPhone if I change my mind.

**Droid800** · 01-09-2011, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by biggie_56

It just seemed strange to me that Verizon is in charge instead of apple, but then again it isn't an apple keynote event. As much as i don't want to admit it, it does really look like the iphone is coming to verizon.

We'll find out on tuesday

Its been postulated that Verizon is in charge because the hardware is identical to the current iPhone.

**Droid800** · 01-09-2011, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by mdlissner

Here is my plan of attack.

Wait for Tuesday announcement to see Verizon iPhone specs. If it is not an LTE version I go to the VZW store and buy a Droid X on the current upgrade I have and keep a 1 year upgrade for January 2012 before Verizon pushes for 20 months effective Sunday 1/16. Also gives me the 30 day return to get an iPhone if I change my mind.

iPhone won't be LTE.

**biff6789** · 01-09-2011, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by mdlissner

Here is my plan of attack.

Wait for Tuesday announcement to see Verizon iPhone specs. If it is not an LTE version I go to the VZW store and buy a Droid X on the current upgrade I have and keep a 1 year upgrade for January 2012 before Verizon pushes for 20 months effective Sunday 1/16. Also gives me the 30 day return to get an iPhone if I change my mind.

CAREFUL!!!

Verizon is also changing their return policy to 14 days, instead of 30. Effective 1/16 as well

See here:

**menschmaschine5** · 01-09-2011, 10:42 PM

It will likely just be the iphone 4, with no LTE capability (Jobs usually doesn't adopt new technology that may affect the performance or battery life of the iphone - the original iphone didn't even have 3G even though the technology existed). If you want LTE, wait for the Thunderbolt. If you want the freedom of Android and the great HTC Sense UI, wait for the Thunderbolt.

And keep in mind that you will likely be locked in to whatever device you get for 2 years. Starting January 16, Verizon is removing its annual upgrade policy and shortening the return period to 14 days (some speculate that this is due to the iphone release). Also, from what I understand, people who already purchased devices will not be grandfathered to the old policy, they'll have something like 6 weeks to use a "new every 2" type thing before switching to the new policy.

So be very careful about the phone you choose. You're stuck with it for 20 months unless you pay retail price for a new one.

**sicieler** · 01-10-2011, 12:16 AM

As far as I'm aware Verizon will not be changing existing contracts. So as long as you buy the phone before the 16th you should still have NE2 and the 30 day return policy. Also they are just as much bound by the contract as you are when you sign it. They can't change contracts after they are signed just because they feel like it.*

*I'm not a lawyer though so don't quote me on this

**easyrun99** · 01-10-2011, 07:51 AM

I know they won't, but I wish VZW would introduce a CDMA iPhone 3Gs along side the iPhone 4.

**experiment 626** · 01-10-2011, 09:26 AM

Thunderbolt over the iPhone 4G,especially a first-gen Verizon iPhone that's CDMA-only.One speculation is that Verizon will release a CDMA-only iPhone in Feb. Then in the fall of 2011 VZW/Apple will release an LTE version. No way I'd want to be shut out of LTE until 2013.

**PJnc284** · 01-10-2011, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by sicieler

As far as I'm aware Verizon will not be changing existing contracts. So as long as you buy the phone before the 16th you should still have NE2 and the 30 day return policy. Also they are just as much bound by the contract as you are when you sign it. They can't change contracts after they are signed just because they feel like it.*

*I'm not a lawyer though so don't quote me on this

None of these phones will likely be out prior to the 16th, so you're going to get stuck with the 14 day test drive. You can still use your annual upgrade (if you have one) or NE2 discount (if you're not 6 months past your eligibility date) though.

**gdbjr** · 01-10-2011, 02:30 PM

Pass on the iPhone until they have an LTE version.

Hold off on the thunderbolt till we see how battery life is. Not sure what LTE will do to the battery.

But that is just my opinion and I will probably have a Bionic on day one.

**rigorx** · 01-10-2011, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by menschmaschine5

So be very careful about the phone you choose. You're stuck with it for 20 months unless you pay retail price for a new one.

Besides having the best network, the 2nd best thing about VZW is that they offer 1 year contracts; but enough people don't pay attention or utilize it.

A new high end phone generally retails for about $599. Verizon regularly offers the latest new high end phones for $199 w/ a 2 year contract. However, you can pay just an additional $70, and only have a 1 year contract.

$199 = 66% discount. Locked in for 2 years (actually 20 months)
$269 = 55% discount. Locked in for 1 year (actually 10 months)

If you purchase an exciting new high end phone shortly after it comes out, you can easily sell it for at least the $269 you paid for it 10 months ago, if not more. So essentially $70 more up front gives you a ton more flexibility, and not feeling like you're stuck with a phone for too long.

**biggie_56** · 01-10-2011, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by menschmaschine5

It will likely just be the iphone 4, with no LTE capability (Jobs usually doesn't adopt new technology that may affect the performance or battery life of the iphone - the original iphone didn't even have 3G even though the technology existed). If you want LTE, wait for the Thunderbolt. If you want the freedom of Android and the great HTC Sense UI, wait for the Thunderbolt.

The thing is i don't have lte in my area and probably won't for a while (hartford suburb). I'm still hoping that lte will be by choice. Since it is a gsm technology and verizon will still be using cdma, it will use a sim card for lte? So i'm hoping you can opt for lte service, otherwise they will be shutting out a lot of people who want those phones but aren't willing to pay the extra charge.

I was talking to a friend, and even with all the speculation that it will be released soon, he pointed out what if a cdma version is made available when the iphone 5 launches. That would definitely mean thunderbolt for me, but i don't want to pay the possible lte charge.

**Jaredshoes** · 01-10-2011, 07:00 PM

imagine this whole thing on tuesday is about the merge? ^_^ what if they suped it up and actually made it a good phone? i would be happy i really liked that phone untill it dropped off the face of the earth

**Jaredshoes** · 01-10-2011, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by sicieler

As far as I'm aware Verizon will not be changing existing contracts. So as long as you buy the phone before the 16th you should still have NE2 and the 30 day return policy. Also they are just as much bound by the contract as you are when you sign it. They can't change contracts after they are signed just because they feel like it.*

*I'm not a lawyer though so don't quote me on this

im not sure about that my wife bought her droid eris a YEAR ago and she hates it very sluggish and whatnot she's the primary line and she cannot upgrade for another year? wow

**Droid800** · 01-10-2011, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by Jaredshoes

imagine this whole thing on tuesday is about the merge? ^_^ what if they suped it up and actually made it a good phone? i would be happy i really liked that phone untill it dropped off the face of the earth

It isn't.

**Jaredshoes** · 01-10-2011, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by Droid800

It isn't.

Yeaah i know im just dreaming lol

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**sicieler** · 01-11-2011, 01:51 AM

Originally Posted by Jaredshoes

im not sure about that my wife bought her droid eris a YEAR ago and she hates it very sluggish and whatnot she's the primary line and she cannot upgrade for another year? wow

I'm pretty sure she can upgrade now unless she wants to wait for the thunderbolt, and if she does I don't think verizon will get rid of the annual upgrade for people who signed their contracts before the 16th.