What will the Thunderbolt be unable to do?

**tekhna** · 02-07-2011, 09:45 PM

There's been so much discussion of the Thunderbolt being underpowered, not dual-core, just another Evo, etc. but I'm wondering what actually the Thunderbolt will be underpowered for? I don't steam 1080p video to and from my phone, I don't play many, if any games. Sure, a gig of RAM would have been great, but will 768 really hold it back? I guess I'm struggling with what a modern smartphone can't do. What will the Atrix be able to do better than the Thunderbolt. Something, surely, but if it's just gaming, does that matter for most of us?

Edit: I should add, battery life could be well what it's unable to do.

**SpaceHippie** · 02-07-2011, 09:47 PM

The Thunderbolt will be able to do everything the Bionic can. The Bionic may be able to play a few more games smoother, but that's it. And the TB may have a better camera. And is built alot better. Plus im hearing Battery life on the TB may be better. Vzw may be releasing the better phone first.

**DJBeanPole** · 02-07-2011, 09:50 PM

It will be unable to print money. Very unfortunate.

**Chris Kerrigan** · 02-07-2011, 09:50 PM

We all also have to keep in mind the software BOTH phones are running has not been optimized for full multi-core support. Both phones are shipping with Froyo, and not even Gingerbread fully supports multi-cores...at least not enough to take full advantage of them.

**tekhna** · 02-07-2011, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by DJBeanPole

It will be unable to print money. Very unfortunate.

It does, actually. For Verizon!

**DJBeanPole** · 02-07-2011, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by tekhna

It does, actually. For Verizon!

But not for me! Curses!

**DJBeanPole** · 02-07-2011, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by Chris Kerrigan

We all also have to keep in mind the software BOTH phones are running has not been optimized for full multi-core support. Both phones are shipping with Froyo, and not even Gingerbread fully supports multi-cores...at least not enough to take full advantage of them.

How long out you suspect we start seeing optimization for the duals?

**tekhna** · 02-07-2011, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by TitansJonne

The Thunderbolt will be able to do everything the Bionic can. The Bionic may be able to play a few more games smoother, but that's it. And the TB may have a better camera. And is built alot better. Plus im hearing Battery life on the TB may be better. Vzw may be releasing the better phone first.

That's more or less my point--if it's an extra 3fps in Need for Speed, I can't say I care all that much. I mostly use my phone as a tool, not a portable entertainment system. A bit of that, but not enough to care.

**Chris Kerrigan** · 02-07-2011, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by DJBeanPole

How long out you suspect we start seeing optimization for the duals?

Honeycomb is the first Android OS to fully support multiple-core processors. How exactly Honeycombs features will be implemented into Phones isn't very clear, but I'd suspect that the next version of the Android OS for phones will be when that will open up.

**Jaredshoes** · 02-07-2011, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by DJBeanPole

How long out you suspect we start seeing optimization for the duals?

I heard the 2.4 update will be optimized for dual cores and bring over some honeycomb things

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**Cubanjinx** · 02-07-2011, 10:08 PM

Just read an article saying that the build an island feature is still only on the Evo. Sorry guys

Via TT

**SpaceHippie** · 02-07-2011, 10:16 PM

I heard the TB can keep you company when the Mrs is away

**Mustang7303** · 02-07-2011, 11:08 PM

It wont multitask like WebOS, it wont be able to connect to the "superior" Apple App Store (*cough* who cares *cough*), it doesn't sync with your xbox live profile to display your awesome achievements, it wont auto level your World of Warcraft character, it wont be NFC compliant, it wont drive you to work, and swimming with it in your pocket is still strongly discouraged.

**Chris Kerrigan** · 02-07-2011, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by Mustang7302

It wont multitask like WebOS, it wont be able to connect to the "superior" Apple App Store (*cough* who cares *cough*), it doesn't sync with your xbox live profile to display your awesome achievements, it wont auto level your World of Warcraft character, it wont be NFC compliant, it wont drive you to work, and swimming with it in your pocket is still strongly discouraged.

Actually, there are some third party Xbox apps in the Market that will display achievements and such haha

**Mustang7303** · 02-07-2011, 11:44 PM

Fine. Then it wont make a good Starcraft II 2v2 partner.

**Comineeyeaha** · 02-07-2011, 11:51 PM

It doesn't have HDMI, but it's DLNA compatible, so that doesn't really affect me. The battery might not be so hot, but that remains to be seen. Not really a HUGE deal, but the AC port is on the same long edge that the phone will rest on when the kickstand is in use. So that means I cant plug it in at my desk while watching TV shows. I understand not placing it on the bottom, since it can prop in portrait as well, but they should have put it on the right side, if anything.

Originally Posted by Mustang7302

...and swimming with it in your pocket is still strongly discouraged.

DEAL BREAKER.

**DJBeanPole** · 02-07-2011, 11:57 PM

Will it make corn bread?

**Nitros7** · 02-08-2011, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by Jaredshoes

I heard the 2.4 update will be optimized for dual cores and bring over some honeycomb things

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you got to look at the way that dual core went with the PC... you need both an OS and apps that use it to take full advantage of the hardware, there are still lots of apps for PC that still don't utilize multi core processors... even if google implemented support tomorrow your phone still couldn't fully leverage the power till developers start using the API that leverage that power... my guess is we are a year from seeing the true power of dual core phones.

**martin erwin** · 02-08-2011, 12:33 AM

It won't make iTards any less smug

**tucker_dahlin** · 02-08-2011, 04:01 AM

The listed battery life didnt seem all that bad to me.

**mlpjunior** · 02-08-2011, 04:06 AM

I'm really hoping the the 2nd Gen snapdragon, which uses the more efficient 45nm core, will help with battery life. It kind of scares me that the Bolt has a larger screen than the Fascinate, plus the 4G radio, but it has a smaller battery (1400mAh vs. 1500 on the Fascinate). And the Fascinate's battery life already isn't exactly impressive, IMO.

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**66dude** · 02-08-2011, 05:09 AM

The TB won't be able to serve me coffee, make me a sammich, or wipe my backside.

**WhitePhone** · 02-08-2011, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by DJBeanPole

It will be unable to print money. Very unfortunate.

Crap. You beat me to it.

**racinbill** · 02-08-2011, 07:25 AM

You are all forgetting that the TB is being released with the latest flux capcitor. Since this phone has a unibody aluminum frame it provides the perfect flux dispersal. HTC has hit it out of the park and is really getting back to the future on this phone.

**htowngator** · 02-08-2011, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by mlpjunior

I'm really hoping the the 2nd Gen snapdragon, which uses the more efficient 45nm core, will help with battery life. It kind of scares me that the Bolt has a larger screen than the Fascinate, plus the 4G radio, but it has a smaller battery (1400mAh vs. 1500 on the Fascinate). And the Fascinate's battery life already isn't exactly impressive, IMO.

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It's all about optimization, really. Is SLCD more energy efficient than AMOLED? Is the 2nd gen SDP really that much more energy efficient?

I'm sure like most smartphones with this kind of power, it'll make it a work day without charging but you'll have to plug it in when you get home.