- 04-27-2011, 11:15 PM #776
- 66 Posts
FWIW... After taking the extended battery off the first charge yesterday morning at 9am and using the heck out of the Tbolt, i've decided to put it back on the charger tonight as i post this 36 hours later. That may not be any record, but i'm pleased. The battery is showing 32% in Spare Parts with the majority of power use going to the wi fi radio and screen, and a close 3rd to "Android System".
Tonight will be the second time the extended battery has been charged.
I was pleased with the first charge results.
My wife is still utilizing the stock battery with all the stock items running as vzw store sent her tbolt home. She gets about 6 good hours of active use (those darn battery eating birds!). She is pleased and luving the HTC Sense and droid apps.
====PS on second charging of extended battery; Tbolt taken off charger ~0900 Thursday 28th. As i post this PS the battery is showing 35% in Spare Parts...so ~53 hours off charger. There was a little over 8 hours of use between voice/sms/mail/web/music/youTube/games. The more i use the Tbolt the more pleased i am.
Last edited by Accrete; 04-30-2011 at 04:01 PM. Reason: PS on second charging of extended battery....HTC Thunderbolt
- 04-30-2011, 09:59 PM #777
- 04-30-2011, 10:08 PM #778
- 05-01-2011, 05:07 PM #779
- 48 Posts
Maybe it's just me... but I get at LEAST 24 hours of moderate/heavy use on my Thunderbolt constantly connected to WiFi. My phone is rooted but everything else is the same. No overclocking or custom ROMs. Maybe I got lucky? But it's been a few weeks since I've had this phone and have never had any battery problems.
- 05-07-2011, 06:37 PM #780
- 49 Posts
Airplane Mode Does a Great Job Extending Battery.
Using the Airplane mode when you do not expect to make or receive calls or access the Internet does a fantastic job of limiting battery drain. I charged my ThunderBolt to 99%, placed it in Airplane mode, and went to bed. The next morning it was still at 99%!!! In other words, placing the phone in Airplane mode saves the battery about as well as completely turning off the phone. The benefit of this approach is faster start up in the morning -- you just take the phone out of Airplane mode instead of having to wait five minutes.
Listening to stored music, watching stored videos, playing games, and reading from the Kindle app are all possible in Airplane mode; and the battery still lasts quite a long time enjoying those features. Based on testing it appears that with a full battery you could watch at least four hours of stored HD video using mid-level display brightness and headphones while in Airplane mode and still have some battery left.
The built-in FM radio will not work in airplane mode, but it does still work when in standard mode with all the wireless and network settings turned off. You can also turn off the "Mobile Network" setting to save juice and still make and receive calls. The Mobile Network setting is just for Internet access.
When the phone acts up and heats up and starts draining the battery fast despite you having turned off all antennas and force stopped most apps, rebooting also seems to help set things right for some reason. It must stop some background processes that other steps do not seem to shut down. The new HBO GO app is great, but it may be one of those apps that keeps draining the battery somehow until you reboot the phone.
- 05-09-2011, 01:41 PM #781
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- 05-10-2011, 04:16 PM #783
- 34 Posts
I had the opportunity to test my phone on a trip to Mexico. I turned off the cellular service and had it in airplane mode for a week. All I used was the wifi to connect, browse, google maps and skype. I also took pictures, video and more. I would say it was moderate to heavy use every day. I started each day with a fully charged phone and ended the evening with at least 70%. That blew me away. Now that I'm back, I started using my normal 4G service. I loose about 20% an hour on the battery. Today, with a fully charged battery at 6:30am, I turned off 4G and am only using 3G service. It's only 2pm and I'm at 63%. That's 7 hours and 37% loss! 4G would be great if our phone could last longer than 5 hours.
- 05-12-2011, 12:05 AM #784
- 05-15-2011, 05:27 PM #785
This is a general comment regarding the battery use on the TB.
A friend of mine purchased the TB on the first day it became available. He too, like many people, was totally disgusted with the battery life of this phone. especially coming from BB Storm where he consistently had 2+ days of battery life.
After the outage a few weeks ago, he decided that he would force the phone into 1XEV mode and enable 4G if and when he needed to access the web. He receives AND sends around 40 to 50 e-mails and texts on a daily basis. Answering e-mails and texts does not require 4G power. He turns on 4G about 3 to 4 times a day for a few minutes and then switches back to 1XEV. The other thing he does is, as soon as he is finished with whatever he's doing, he kills any background processes and puts his phone in sleep/wait/standby (whatever you call it.)
His phone is now lasting 2 full days on one charge with the original battery. He also thinks that he could go an extra day, but rather not since he uses it for business.
Seeing that he gets such great performance this way, why isn't the phone programmed in such a way that as soon as it goes in standby mode it automatically shuts down processes that are not necessary and to drop the signal to the bare minimum. You don't need 4G service when your sleeping.
Options should be given to the user to control what happens to processes and signals when going on standby mode.
- 05-15-2011, 05:33 PM #786
- 05-15-2011, 05:59 PM #787
Emails and text are one thing...
I don't even like to browse the web or download on 3G, let alone 1x.
Tell him to flash a good ROM and kernal and remove the bloat ware/get an extended battery.
Then he can leave it on Wifi/LTE and get 2 days out of it as well.
- 05-15-2011, 06:01 PM #788
- 66 Posts
I've been experimenting with dark verses light wallpapers and have details at this android central post in the wallpaper section for those interested. Basically, though i'm still experimenting, i'm seeing approximately a 10% increase in battery life by simply switching to the light wallpaper verses black with same theme (our very own android central loyd caracher : ) I've included both wallpapers in the original post.
- 05-15-2011, 08:08 PM #789
When you buy a car, do you spend weeks or even months to determine what is the proper gas mixtures going in to the engine and at what PSI you should have your tires at and whether you should re-program the chips because you don't like how their configured? Get real!
The average user wants to buy a phone that has many features and also expects to be able to use the phone as is without having to do that crap! Myself included!
I do plenty of this crap with my computers, the last thing that I want to do is tink around with my phone especially when I use it for business.
All I stated earlier is what my friend has done. These steps to saving the battery should have been incorporated into the phone's OS.
I'll reiterate what I've said in previous posts,
HTC and Verizon are guilty of NOT providing what they are promising! They have done a crappy job at delivering what people expected.
I have never knocked the phone! I believe that this is one of the best phones on the market, but, the software configuration, designed by both Verizon and HTC sucks.
A PHONE, regardless of features added to the handset, should have a reasonable amount of life. 6, 8 12 is NOT a reasonable amount of life.
Features that are not in use should NOT be ON to waste the battery.
Do you leave your car running in the driveway when you get home from work? NO! Absolutely not! Does that mean that your car is completely OFF? NO absolutely not! You have computer chips monitoring your vehicle waiting for an event to occur. This is how it was designed! Properly!
Putting the onus on the consumer to optimize the phone is shameful! Especially when a large percentage of buyers have absolutely no clue as to how an OS works. All they care about is that the phone works!
Shame on you Nerds for thinking that you are the majority!
Open your eyes, take your rosy sunglasses off, smell the coffee and get a reality check. You are only a fraction of a small percent of user that want to root a phone and install new ROMs.
- 05-15-2011, 11:17 PM #790
Many people like myself enjoy this sort of thing, you could call it a hobby of sorts. Now everyone knows that this phone comes preloaded with crap, and isn't close to being fully optimized out of the box. There's no excuse for HTC and Verizon for this, but instead of whining about it we actually do something about it!
Now if you don't want to spend a couple hours out of your time to root, and get rid of the crap that comes preinstalled that's on you my friend. There's a reason why these devices are called smart phones. You have to put some time and effort in learning and understanding the process of how everything works, that way if you run into problems you know how to deal with them instead of complain and cry about it.
If you're a business user you should get a phone that caters to business people, and get a blackberry. Leave the androids for the 'nerds' Or you can always get an iphone, I hear they got that 10-18 age range/trendy crowd market cornered.
- 05-16-2011, 12:03 AM #791
I write software for a living and am no where near the ages of 10-18. My kids are older than that!
RIM is focused on their toy Playbook which in my opinion have lost focus on their business customers. The new deal that they just signed with Microsoft' bing, again my own opinion, spells disaster long term.
I simply stated what my Friend did to get 2+ days out of his battery. The response to that was to Root the phone and install a custom ROM. Installing a custom ROM is NOT as solution for the majority of people.
I am with you concerning the CRAP loaded on the device, however, that CRAP is not what drains the majority of the power. It's the 4G and the software/application controlling the communication.
In early 90's cell/brick phones had batteries that lasted 8 to maybe 10 hours. In the 2000 cell phones reached a peek where the batteries lasted 7-10 days and some even went longer than that. Today, cell phone, like the TB can't even last 6 hours stock.
Why should you, me or anyone have to spend days and weeks to eek out a few hours of battery life when the onus should be on Verizon and HTC (in this case).
Why are people so damned complacent? By accepting crap from these company and following behind them like little puppies and cleaning up their mess, gives them a Carte Blanche to continue giving us crap!
- 05-16-2011, 12:53 AM #792
RIM is a failing company I'll agree with you on that, and the preloaded bloat isn't the main factor concerning battery life. But anyone with half a brain had to know coming in that a large screen, 1400mah battery combined with a new 4G network was going to result in below average battery life.
These companies have a good hold on their profit margins, and they will try to cut corners in any way they can to meet their goals. That's just the nature of the game. There is no perfect device, and there will never be one.
I'm just grateful that we have the developers who make it able for some of us to enjoy the phone to it's fullest potential. I don't think that it should be that way, but what are you going to do?
- 05-16-2011, 04:55 AM #793
You write software for a living and you think we are nerds? Really?
They are called smart phones for a reason...the end user has to be smart enough to use them.
Otherwise...they make iPhones.
This phone is NOT a great business phone. And I too, own this as my work phone, with exchange via Active Sync. If you are primarily using it for that many emails, texting and phone calls....please buy a blackberry. I know the Playbook is horrible...any tablet based PC with a mail, calendar or contact app should be put out to pasture. That's just dumb.
Based on what you listed a BB is a better choice for you.
I purchased this phone, for work and out of my own pocket because of it's great features...email and texting was not at the top of my list.
Speed, screen size, simultaneous voice and data, rich web browsing, LTE network, WiFi Hotspot capacity, Video Chat, Google Maps and Navigation...
All these reasons are why I bought the phone... Yes, I do email, calendar and contacts on it.
NO...it is no where as good as a BB for those specific things. Even with Touchdown, K9, DroidMail, Enhanced Email or other aftermarket mail apps.
I ran auto centers for years, starting at the bottom and working my way to management. I fell into a tech job because of how efficient I was on point of sale systems.
So please don't lecture me on how cars work, what people do with them, etc., I'm 110% certain I have a greater grasp of that concept than you ever will.
You came to a tech forum, you got a tech answer. Look at either the signatures and details of the members posting in these forums. Many will be rooted and using different ROMs. Many do that, myself included, to not only remove bloatware and get better battery life, but to customize the phone and make it theirs. So speaking of cars...how many people tint windows, change their stereo, put graphics, exhaust, chips, etc.. on their cars to make it their own AND get more performance? (If you're gonna use a car analogy....do better next time)
So before you go spouting off on users you don't know about technology that might be a little too advanced for you, maybe you should get a cup of coffee, smell the flowers and get a reality check.
Or buy some fruit more to your liking, in a berry or apple flavored variety.
**Edit, please let me clarify the email comment. Email working correctly (sync, receiving, sending) is critical. And it does that fine... actual program capabilities and flow are not on the top of the list... Just to clarify**
- 05-20-2011, 07:58 AM #794
I'm not a nerd, nor am I a jock just your everyday joe smo'
I'm loving it this phone
wish I had more time to become an expert on smart phones but i don't so i rely on webistes like this to teach me.
Battery life might suck but this is the phone i bought
I use it until the yellow light comes on and then I charge it
- 05-21-2011, 09:15 AM #795
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