e-HRPD has officially been disabled!@@@@$#

**potatolover1102** · 04-28-2011, 10:27 AM

So I am in a non 4g area and after the outage Verizon officially shut down e-hrpd! They said you have to go into a 4g area to officially reactivate it! I am really annoyedwith this. I have rev.a only now which is slower and no voice and data.

**stearic** · 04-28-2011, 10:40 AM

You were told some bs there, as i'm in a non 4g area and i'm on eHRPD right now. Maybe you should check the modem status to see if it's been changed to just rev.A. And eHRPD is the same speed as rev.A, there is no difference, just one is able to voice/data at the same time, that is all.

**Slapnpop826** · 04-28-2011, 10:43 AM

Voice and data works on the Rev. A signal. at least it has been for me all of these weeks I have been on it.

**stearic** · 04-28-2011, 10:58 AM

You know, i've never tried that the 2 times i've manually put my phone in rev.A. I'll have to check that out later. It was my understanding that it was eHRPD that could only do that. Then what exactly is eHRPD for if you can do that under rev.A?

**FrankXS** · 04-28-2011, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by stearic

You know, i've never tried that the 2 times i've manually put my phone in rev.A. I'll have to check that out later. It was my understanding that it was eHRPD that could only do that. Then what exactly is eHRPD for if you can do that under rev.A?

Faster Switching.

-Frank

**PJnc284** · 04-28-2011, 11:18 AM

eHRPD is the path Verizon used for their LTE migration. It's supposed to allow the soft handoffs between EVDO and LTE and back when required. As stated above, simultaneous voice & data does indeed work while running on Rev A due to the way the voice and data radios are set up separately. That said, I'm in Raleigh, NC and my network type also says Rev A even after switching the setting to Enabled and then back to eHRPD after reboot multiple times.

**stearic** · 04-28-2011, 11:32 AM

Well, that's interesting. The things you learn. heh

**0pusX** · 04-28-2011, 11:40 AM

so even if I DONT live in a 4G area, if I buy the Bolt, I will be able to use voice and data at the same time on just a 3G connection?

**PJnc284** · 04-28-2011, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by 0pusX

so even if I DONT live in a 4G area, if I buy the Bolt, I will be able to use voice and data at the same time on just a 3G connection?

yup. It works perfectly fine over 3G. Even with 4G and the eHRPD network down yesterday, I tried simultaneous voice & data and it still worked. It's the first and may be the only one for a while that can do it over 3G.

**Slapnpop826** · 04-28-2011, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by 0pusX

so even if I DONT live in a 4G area, if I buy the Bolt, I will be able to use voice and data at the same time on just a 3G connection?

Yes. It's a beautiful thing.

**VideoEngineerAJS** · 04-28-2011, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by PJnc284

eHRPD is the path Verizon used for their LTE migration. It's supposed to allow the soft handoffs between EVDO and LTE and back when required. As stated above, simultaneous voice & data does indeed work while running on Rev A due to the way the voice and data radios are set up separately. That said, I'm in Raleigh, NC and my network type also says Rev A even after switching the setting to Enabled and then back to eHRPD after reboot multiple times.

I just checked and I'm on eHRPD.

**willis936** · 04-28-2011, 02:01 PM

Just because you're set to that through the ##778# menu does not mean you're on it. Check under settings > phone info > network

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**VideoEngineerAJS** · 04-28-2011, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by willis936

Just because you're set to that through the ##778# menu does not mean you're on it. Check under settings > phone info > network

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Well that way, I know I'm technically on LTE, since I live in an LTE area. I'll know what it's set to tomorrow when I leave the St. Louis area when I go to Branson.

**potatolover1102** · 04-28-2011, 03:43 PM

I know they are suppossed to be the same speed and stuff but my sppeds went from 1600-2200kb to 400-700kb!!! However ironically my ping went from 450ms to 150ms??

**caseydietz** · 04-28-2011, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by potatolover1102

I know they are suppossed to be the same speed and stuff but my sppeds went from 1600-2200kb to 400-700kb!!! However ironically my ping went from 450ms to 150ms??

I agree, in Des Moines my 3G speeds have been really slow since yesterday's fiasco. I even unrooted to see if it was the leaked radio I flashed, turns out, nope...

**damule6666** · 04-28-2011, 05:27 PM

When i do this settings > phone info > network
What should it read if all is right, i did the switch to 3G last night to get my phone working as i had ZERO service, but did the switch back all per the XDA directions before i turned in. And this morning i woke to 3G service.

Just want to make sure im back to right, it currently says
Mobile network type CDMA - EvDo rev. A

Is this what i want to make sure my 4G LTE is ready to go, i am in a fringe area, my 4G comes and goes.

**DJBeanPole** · 04-28-2011, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by damule6666

When i do this settings > phone info > network
What should it read if all is right, i did the switch to 3G last night to get my phone working as i had ZERO service, but did the switch back all per the XDA directions before i turned in. And this morning i woke to 3G service.

Just want to make sure im back to right, it currently says
Mobile network type CDMA - EvDo rev. A

Is this what i want to make sure my 4G LTE is ready to go, i am in a fringe area, my 4G comes and goes.

I'd like to know the answer to this as well because I'm seeing the same thing.

Is CDMA - EvDo rev. A = eHRPD?

**PJnc284** · 04-28-2011, 07:08 PM

Rev A != eHRPD. The link below seems to offer a decent explanation. Probably more than most people would want to know.

**DJBeanPole** · 04-28-2011, 07:11 PM

So why am I still in CDMA - EvDo rev. A. I haven't changed anything.

And doing the ##778# thing under modem settings I see that Rev. A has been set to eHRPD.

*confused*

**PJnc284** · 04-28-2011, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by DJBeanPole

So why am I still in Rev A. I haven't changed anything.

My guess is they dropped those in 3G areas to Rev A as a sort of temporary Band-Aid fix while they straighten out the other problems. For anyone in fringe areas, does it still hand-off correctly from Rev-A to LTE and back like it should?

**damule6666** · 04-28-2011, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by PJnc284

My guess is they dropped those in 3G areas to Rev A as a sort of temporary Band-Aid fix while they straighten out the other problems. For anyone in fringe areas, does it still hand-off correctly from Rev-A to LTE and back like it should?

Not sure yet.. Cause OF COURSE LTE hasnt tried to kick in at all.. Or it HAS and its not working.. grrrr

**CarrierUnlock** · 04-28-2011, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by PJnc284

My guess is they dropped those in 3G areas to Rev A as a sort of temporary Band-Aid fix while they straighten out the other problems. For anyone in fringe areas, does it still hand-off correctly from Rev-A to LTE and back like it should?

I am inside a 4G area but on the fringe and I can say it still does not handoff properly I have to turn off then on mobile network when I leave home.

I also only see Rev. A even though my settings are set to ehrpd. I would always connect ehrpd before the outage outside of LTE.

**DJBeanPole** · 04-28-2011, 09:08 PM

Must still be fixing things then...

**jigz23** · 04-28-2011, 09:21 PM

I've been noticing that after yesterdays outage, by 4g has been spotty all day, going to 4g to 3g to off completely for a while then back constantly... Hope verizon gets all this sorted out for good.

**Air Force One** · 04-28-2011, 09:30 PM

I have not seen ehrpd since the outage started. I was at 1x for about 15 hours and since then have been on 3G CDMA-EvDo rev. A

I'm in a non 4G area

on the upside the GPS on my Thunderbolt has never worked so well. Apparently it doesn't like ehrpd