05-24-2011 05:42 PM
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  1. potatolover1102's Avatar
    So I am in a non 4g area and after the outage Verizon officially shut down e-hrpd! They said you have to go into a 4g area to officially reactivate it! I am really annoyedwith this. I have rev.a only now which is slower and no voice and data.
    04-28-2011 10:27 AM
  2. stearic's Avatar
    You were told some bs there, as i'm in a non 4g area and i'm on eHRPD right now. Maybe you should check the modem status to see if it's been changed to just rev.A. And eHRPD is the same speed as rev.A, there is no difference, just one is able to voice/data at the same time, that is all.
    04-28-2011 10:40 AM
  3. Slapnpop826's Avatar
    Voice and data works on the Rev. A signal. at least it has been for me all of these weeks I have been on it.
    04-28-2011 10:43 AM
  4. stearic's Avatar
    You know, i've never tried that the 2 times i've manually put my phone in rev.A. I'll have to check that out later. It was my understanding that it was eHRPD that could only do that. Then what exactly is eHRPD for if you can do that under rev.A?
    04-28-2011 10:58 AM
  5. FrankXS's Avatar
    You know, i've never tried that the 2 times i've manually put my phone in rev.A. I'll have to check that out later. It was my understanding that it was eHRPD that could only do that. Then what exactly is eHRPD for if you can do that under rev.A?
    Faster Switching.

    -Frank
    04-28-2011 11:00 AM
  6. PJnc284's Avatar
    eHRPD is the path Verizon used for their LTE migration. It's supposed to allow the soft handoffs between EVDO and LTE and back when required. As stated above, simultaneous voice & data does indeed work while running on Rev A due to the way the voice and data radios are set up separately. That said, I'm in Raleigh, NC and my network type also says Rev A even after switching the setting to Enabled and then back to eHRPD after reboot multiple times.
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    04-28-2011 11:18 AM
  7. stearic's Avatar
    Well, that's interesting. The things you learn. heh
    04-28-2011 11:32 AM
  8. 0pusX's Avatar
    so even if I DONT live in a 4G area, if I buy the Bolt, I will be able to use voice and data at the same time on just a 3G connection?
    04-28-2011 11:40 AM
  9. PJnc284's Avatar
    so even if I DONT live in a 4G area, if I buy the Bolt, I will be able to use voice and data at the same time on just a 3G connection?
    yup. It works perfectly fine over 3G. Even with 4G and the eHRPD network down yesterday, I tried simultaneous voice & data and it still worked. It's the first and may be the only one for a while that can do it over 3G.
    04-28-2011 11:49 AM
  10. Slapnpop826's Avatar
    so even if I DONT live in a 4G area, if I buy the Bolt, I will be able to use voice and data at the same time on just a 3G connection?
    Yes. It's a beautiful thing.
    04-28-2011 01:41 PM
  11. VideoEngineerAJS's Avatar
    eHRPD is the path Verizon used for their LTE migration. It's supposed to allow the soft handoffs between EVDO and LTE and back when required. As stated above, simultaneous voice & data does indeed work while running on Rev A due to the way the voice and data radios are set up separately. That said, I'm in Raleigh, NC and my network type also says Rev A even after switching the setting to Enabled and then back to eHRPD after reboot multiple times.
    I just checked and I'm on eHRPD.
    04-28-2011 01:45 PM
  12. willis936's Avatar
    Just because you're set to that through the ##778# menu does not mean you're on it. Check under settings > phone info > network

    -stock HTC Thunderbolt tapatalk
    04-28-2011 02:01 PM
  13. VideoEngineerAJS's Avatar
    Just because you're set to that through the ##778# menu does not mean you're on it. Check under settings > phone info > network

    -stock HTC Thunderbolt tapatalk
    Well that way, I know I'm technically on LTE, since I live in an LTE area. I'll know what it's set to tomorrow when I leave the St. Louis area when I go to Branson.
    04-28-2011 02:08 PM
  14. potatolover1102's Avatar
    I know they are suppossed to be the same speed and stuff but my sppeds went from 1600-2200kb to 400-700kb!!! However ironically my ping went from 450ms to 150ms??
    04-28-2011 03:43 PM
  15. caseydietz's Avatar
    I know they are suppossed to be the same speed and stuff but my sppeds went from 1600-2200kb to 400-700kb!!! However ironically my ping went from 450ms to 150ms??
    I agree, in Des Moines my 3G speeds have been really slow since yesterday's fiasco. I even unrooted to see if it was the leaked radio I flashed, turns out, nope...
    04-28-2011 03:57 PM
  16. damule6666's Avatar
    When i do this settings > phone info > network
    What should it read if all is right, i did the switch to 3G last night to get my phone working as i had ZERO service, but did the switch back all per the XDA directions before i turned in. And this morning i woke to 3G service.

    Just want to make sure im back to right, it currently says
    Mobile network type CDMA - EvDo rev. A

    Is this what i want to make sure my 4G LTE is ready to go, i am in a fringe area, my 4G comes and goes.
    04-28-2011 05:27 PM
  17. DJBeanPole's Avatar
    When i do this settings > phone info > network
    What should it read if all is right, i did the switch to 3G last night to get my phone working as i had ZERO service, but did the switch back all per the XDA directions before i turned in. And this morning i woke to 3G service.

    Just want to make sure im back to right, it currently says
    Mobile network type CDMA - EvDo rev. A

    Is this what i want to make sure my 4G LTE is ready to go, i am in a fringe area, my 4G comes and goes.
    I'd like to know the answer to this as well because I'm seeing the same thing.

    Is CDMA - EvDo rev. A = eHRPD?
    04-28-2011 06:42 PM
  18. PJnc284's Avatar
    Rev A != eHRPD. The link below seems to offer a decent explanation. Probably more than most people would want to know.

    Evolution Options from CDMA to LTE: The Benefits of eHRPD
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    04-28-2011 07:08 PM
  19. DJBeanPole's Avatar
    So why am I still in CDMA - EvDo rev. A. I haven't changed anything.

    And doing the ##778# thing under modem settings I see that Rev. A has been set to eHRPD.

    *confused*
    04-28-2011 07:11 PM
  20. PJnc284's Avatar
    So why am I still in Rev A. I haven't changed anything.
    My guess is they dropped those in 3G areas to Rev A as a sort of temporary Band-Aid fix while they straighten out the other problems. For anyone in fringe areas, does it still hand-off correctly from Rev-A to LTE and back like it should?
    04-28-2011 07:16 PM
  21. damule6666's Avatar
    My guess is they dropped those in 3G areas to Rev A as a sort of temporary Band-Aid fix while they straighten out the other problems. For anyone in fringe areas, does it still hand-off correctly from Rev-A to LTE and back like it should?
    Not sure yet.. Cause OF COURSE LTE hasnt tried to kick in at all.. Or it HAS and its not working.. grrrr
    04-28-2011 07:50 PM
  22. CarrierUnlock's Avatar
    My guess is they dropped those in 3G areas to Rev A as a sort of temporary Band-Aid fix while they straighten out the other problems. For anyone in fringe areas, does it still hand-off correctly from Rev-A to LTE and back like it should?
    I am inside a 4G area but on the fringe and I can say it still does not handoff properly I have to turn off then on mobile network when I leave home.

    I also only see Rev. A even though my settings are set to ehrpd. I would always connect ehrpd before the outage outside of LTE.
    04-28-2011 08:33 PM
  23. DJBeanPole's Avatar
    Must still be fixing things then...
    04-28-2011 09:08 PM
  24. jigz23's Avatar
    I've been noticing that after yesterdays outage, by 4g has been spotty all day, going to 4g to 3g to off completely for a while then back constantly... Hope verizon gets all this sorted out for good.
    04-28-2011 09:21 PM
  25. Air Force One's Avatar
    I have not seen ehrpd since the outage started. I was at 1x for about 15 hours and since then have been on 3G CDMA-EvDo rev. A

    I'm in a non 4G area

    on the upside the GPS on my Thunderbolt has never worked so well. Apparently it doesn't like ehrpd
    04-28-2011 09:30 PM
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