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    I have to say i was pretty excited when i saw this phone, but then i come to find out it does not have dual core. Talk about heartbreak. I want to love this phone, but not having dual-core kinda sucks.

    What does everyone else think?
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    None of the phones shown at CES have dual core but the Bionic, pretty insane. Dont make the processor deter you from a phone. 1 GHZ is fast enough to do anything you want and more, run any game, and do anything, if it was bad all phones would be getting 2ghz, not just one.
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    I was thinking that this was Verizon's version of the LG Star/Optimus 2X with the Tegra 2 dual core. But now I see that it's only single core. Bummer. Like the Thunderbolt, I'm sure it's fast. But, with the Optimus 2X already announced, I figured it would be the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by makav3ll1 View Post
    None of the phones shown at CES have dual core but the Bionic, pretty insane. Dont make the processor deter you from a phone. 1 GHZ is fast enough to do anything you want and more, run any game, and do anything, if it was bad all phones would be getting 2ghz, not just one.
    Don't put out false information. The Revolution, Optimus 2X, Atrix, Bionic and Xoom all have Tegra 2.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadia View Post
    Don't put out false information. The Revolution, Optimus 2X, Atrix, Bionic and Xoom all have Tegra 2.


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    Sorry, the LG Revolution doesn't. Every other one of those you mentioned does.

    Here's my proof:

    According to Sascha Segan at PCMag.com LG Revolution doesn't have Tegra 2. Click here

    Also CNET says the Revolution 4G will not have it either. Click Here

    I'm gonna go with these guys. They've talked to the LG Reps. Plus LG would've have said that at CES as a selling point to the public. Frankly, I'm quite disappointed. If I want Tegra 2 and Verizon LTE -- I have to go Bionic

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    I like the phone, looks nice, and from what i hear LG limited thier UI and looks to be close to an android experience.

    Coming from an Eris I think I will be more than happy with that phone. Issue is will it be good enough for 2 years with the new upgrade changes Verizon is making.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdCoast View Post
    I like the phone, looks nice, and from what i hear LG limited thier UI and looks to be close to an android experience.

    Coming from an Eris I think I will be more than happy with that phone. Issue is will it be good enough for 2 years with the new upgrade changes Verizon is making.....
    May not necessarily be the case. Most of the videos showed what appeared to be a near stock launcher and slightly modified notification bar but this one shows a more touchwiz-esque interface
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    well ok so the new phones dont have dual core processors.. doesnt really matter as gingerbread will not be capable of utilizing them anyway.. Honeycomb will but thats not coming to phones for some time and by the time it does, the phones will be up to par..so the fact that the bionic will have a dual core processor is kind of pointless when the OS isnt capable of utilizing all that the tegra 2 can do..just my 2c
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    So does that mean that Froyo doesn't actually use both cores or does it mean that none of the software available uses both cores either at all, or in an efficient manner?
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    Oh that sucks. I thought it did.
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    It might not have dual core, but doesn't it have the NOVA display? That's a great selling point by itself.

    And even though Android isn't optimized for dual core (except for Honeycomb) it still kills the benchmarks. And with tegra zone there will be plenty of optimized games for the tegra 2 chips in these phones and tablets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Blu View Post
    So does that mean that Froyo doesn't actually use both cores or does it mean that none of the software available uses both cores either at all, or in an efficient manner?
    It uses both of them, but it's up to the chip to do it's own power management. (I.E. underclock when it's not doing anything).
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    It should also be up to the OS to schedule which core gets which process. WIth the word that Froyo is not optimized for dual-core, this is what it means -- Froyo can't assign specific processes to a specific core. And Honeycomb apparently can. For instance, if there are two processes that can be run independently (i.e, are not dependent on each other), an optimized OS can have one core run one process and the other core run the other simultaneously. A non-optimized OS will have to run these processes sequentially.
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    To clarify, it's not the "OS" (the overall collection of programs) that handles the multiple cores, but more specifically the kernel (the brain that handles requests for hardware, like for processing resources). I have to wonder if some of our favorite hackers can hack up custom kernels for us. Would be nice to have multi-core kernels for gingerbread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crome1115 View Post
    well ok so the new phones dont have dual core processors.. doesnt really matter as gingerbread will not be capable of utilizing them anyway.. Honeycomb will but thats not coming to phones for some time and by the time it does, the phones will be up to par..so the fact that the bionic will have a dual core processor is kind of pointless when the OS isnt capable of utilizing all that the tegra 2 can do..just my 2c
    Its funny how people think they know this stuff. If that was true this phone wouldn't have scored 2600 in Quadrant. The software doesn't need to be coded with dual-cores in mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BSG75 View Post
    To clarify, it's not the "OS" (the overall collection of programs) that handles the multiple cores, but more specifically the kernel (the brain that handles requests for hardware, like for processing resources). I have to wonder if some of our favorite hackers can hack up custom kernels for us. Would be nice to have multi-core kernels for gingerbread.
    When I refer to the operating system, I include the kernel as part of it. But, I'm a PC guy, not a mobile phone guy. Maybe the terminology is different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DolfanCole View Post
    When I refer to the operating system, I include the kernel as part of it. But, I'm a PC guy, not a mobile phone guy. Maybe the terminology is different.
    You weren't wrong (and I don't claim to be an expert), I was just thinking that people do make custom kernels, so it seems conceivable that we could have custom multi-core kernels for Android if Goog doesn't release them themselves first.

    I'm just taking everyone's word for it that the present kernels are, in fact, not able to support multiple cores.
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    The kernel is the link between the OS and the hardware. Theoretically a custom kernel could be made that would take better advantage of dual core chips. Kinda like how the EVO has a million different kernels, and some give better performance while others better battery life.
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    Even without specific multicore programming Android does speed up with more than one core because it uses true, full multitasking. It just does not speed up as much as an OS written for multicore would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJnc284 View Post
    May not necessarily be the case. Most of the videos showed what appeared to be a near stock launcher and slightly modified notification bar but this one shows a more touchwiz-esque interface
    The CES models did NOT have a finished UI, but the Revolution WILL have a custom LG UI when it comes to market.

    Also, the Revolution, like the Thunderbolt, has the newest Snapdragon processor and Qualcomm chipset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crome1115 View Post
    well ok so the new phones dont have dual core processors.. doesnt really matter as gingerbread will not be capable of utilizing them anyway.. Honeycomb will but thats not coming to phones for some time and by the time it does, the phones will be up to par..so the fact that the bionic will have a dual core processor is kind of pointless when the OS isnt capable of utilizing all that the tegra 2 can do..just my 2c
    Well, I know Motorola stated they are optimizing the Froyo software on the Bionic and Atrix to take advantage of the dual-core.

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