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    will work with the Note 3 on Verizon after the OTA Kit Kat update, Baseband N900VVRUCNC4?

    I'm having a hard time finding anything.

    Thanks in advanced!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bak9799 View Post
    will work with the Note 3 on Verizon after the OTA Kit Kat update, Baseband N900VVRUCNC4?

    I'm having a hard time finding anything.

    Thanks in advanced!!!
    That's because there is no way (yet) to root once you've taken the OTA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bak9799 View Post
    will work with the Note 3 on Verizon after the OTA Kit Kat update, Baseband N900VVRUCNC4?

    I'm having a hard time finding anything.

    Thanks in advanced!!!
    If you've taken it you're stuck until a method is found. If you haven't, there is a pre OTA leaked KitKat build with root baked in. If you're interested, post here and I'll track down my post about it.

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    Lefty Drummer,

    I am on a Verizon 4.3 Note 3 (rooted) and was looking for exactly what you mentioned...a pre-rooted version of kit kat. I would greatly appreciate it if you would provide the link that you mentioned.

    Thanks.
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    Perfect, should be able to do this easily as that is what I was on. Here's my post with links

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/sho....php?p=3653068

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    Thanks so much Lefty Drummer! By the way, have you run into any problems since you upgraded to KK?


    P.S. - Nice drum kit that you have there too. I play as well on a 5 piece Ludwig (but right-handed). ;^)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman8888 View Post
    Thanks so much Lefty Drummer! By the way, have you run into any problems since you upgraded to KK?


    P.S. - Nice drum kit that you have there too. I play as well on a 5 piece Ludwig (but right-handed). ;^)
    No none at all. I feel bad for those that are having issues. Make sure you follow the instructions EXACTLY as written. If you do you'll be fine.

    Thanks for the compliment. They're Baltimore Drum USA drums. I played Pearl for almost 15 years, and these are turning 15 next month. They still sound amazing!

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    Hey Lefty Drummer,

    First off, thanks again for providing the link you gave. As usual, before I root/flash anything etc., I've read all of the instructions in it's entirety, but I still have a few questions before starting though...

    My 4.3 VZW Note 3 is already rooted, but I have never installed any version of Safestrap, so is it necessary to install it first and should it be version 3.65? Once installing it, is there a backup procedure that I'm to follow in order to be able to return to 4.3 if desired?

    Next question is where it says that I am to "Verify That You Are Running ANY rooted 4.3 Rom on STOCK SLOT..." I'm not very familiar with the different "slots" so how do I verify that I'm on the "Stock Slot"? The next section also refers to this when it reads to "Boot into stock slot" so again, how can I verify what "slot" the device boots up into?

    The rest I've done before many times as far as the flashing in Odin and all, but if you could help me with these questions I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

    B.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefty Drummer View Post
    If you've taken it you're stuck until a method is found. If you haven't, there is a pre OTA leaked KitKat build with root baked in. If you're interested, post here and I'll track down my post about it.

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    I have done the OTA update already. I figured there wasn't one available yet, or I would have seen it. Thanks for the reply!
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    Hey Lefty Drummer,

    First off, thanks again for providing the link you gave. As usual, before I root/flash anything etc., I've read all of the instructions in it's entirety, but I still have a few questions before starting though...

    My 4.3 VZW Note 3 is already rooted, but I have never installed any version of Safestrap, so is it necessary to install it first and should it be version 3.65? Once installing it, is there a backup procedure that I'm to follow in order to be able to return to 4.3 if desired?

    Next question is where it says that I am to "Verify That You Are Running ANY rooted 4.3 Rom on STOCK SLOT..." I'm not very familiar with the different "slots" so how do I verify that I'm on the "Stock Slot"? The next section also refers to this when it reads to "Boot into stock slot" so again, how can I verify what "slot" the device boots up into?

    The rest I've done before many times as far as the flashing in Odin and all, but if you could help me with these questions I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

    B.
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    You're welcome.

    To answer your questions - Yes you need to install Safestrap, ver. 3.65. After you install it, open it and click install recovery. Once you do that, restart your phone and you'll see the Safestrap splash screen. If you touch Recovery, it will take you to the touch based recovery. Safestrap uses slots to install roms safely, leaving the 'stock' rom untouched. You won't need to worry about any slots with this process. You'll automatically be on the stock slot since all you've done is root the phone.
    After you install the zip from your SD card and the .tar file from Odin, your first reboot will take a bit of time and Safestrap will have been deleted, the phone will boot with its normal boot splash screens. You'll only need to reinstall the new Safestrap (3.72 for KitKat ) if you intend to install different roms. SuperSu will have been installed, and you can verify root with Root Checker. You'll then be on KitKat stock NC2 just not the latest OTA NC4. I honestly don't know the difference between the two except of course the leaked KitKat has root and at least to this point the OTA does not have root access nor a way back to 4.3 in the event of some sort of disaster.
    Backup whatever you feel you need to however you wish. Not required to back up 4.3 unless you really feel like you should. As I said in the event of a disaster you'll probably have to use Odin to flash a stock 4.3 image.
    Hope this helps and answers your questions, good luck! Follow instructions and it will be fine, especially since you're experienced with flashing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bak9799 View Post
    I have done the OTA update already. I figured there wasn't one available yet, or I would have seen it. Thanks for the reply!
    Sorry to hear that. All I can tell you is keep an eye out over at XDA where Beanstown posts, hope that he finds a method to root the OTA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefty Drummer View Post
    Sorry to hear that. All I can tell you is keep an eye out over at XDA where Beanstown posts, hope that he finds a method to root the OTA.

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    Will do. Thanks!!!!
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    Thanks so much Lefty Drummer for your detailed instructions, I really appreciate it! I've been so tied up with work recently that I haven't had much time to address this issue, but I hope to follow your steps and take the plunge really soon. Just a couple more quick questions for you if you don't mind however...

    1.) How is your data connection on this version of Kit Kat since it's not the most current/OTA version? This is the problem that I'm having with 4.3 that is making me research updating. I've been recently getting terrible data connections, even after just swapping out my sim card.

    2.) Have you found any way around Safestrap's splash screen? I am always concerned about restarting my phone in front of Verizon reps (when taking it in with problems) who may then see the new splash screen and know that I am modified therefore voiding all warranties. Is there perhaps a module in Wanam Xposed/Xposed Installer that will hide that new 3.72 splash screen at startup? If not, I guess it's no big deal since you mentioned that 3.65 will be deleted and I'm not sure that I will even install different roms...just curious.

    Thanks so much again for all of your help!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman8888 View Post
    Thanks so much Lefty Drummer for your detailed instructions, I really appreciate it! I've been so tied up with work recently that I haven't had much time to address this issue, but I hope to follow your steps and take the plunge really soon. Just a couple more quick questions for you if you don't mind however...

    1.) How is your data connection on this version of Kit Kat since it's not the most current/OTA version? This is the problem that I'm having with 4.3 that is making me research updating. I've been recently getting terrible data connections, even after just swapping out my sim card.

    2.) Have you found any way around Safestrap's splash screen? I am always concerned about restarting my phone in front of Verizon reps (when taking it in with problems) who may then see the new splash screen and know that I am modified therefore voiding all warranties. Is there perhaps a module in Wanam Xposed/Xposed Installer that will hide that new 3.72 splash screen at startup? If not, I guess it's no big deal since you mentioned that 3.65 will be deleted and I'm not sure that I will even install different roms...just curious.

    Thanks so much again for all of your help!
    No problem.

    1. I have zero issues with data, both before and after the upgrade to KitKat. Of course I live between Baltimore and DC so not much to complain about as far as data coverage goes. Same goes for WiFi, no problems at all.

    2. I have no experience with Wanam so can't help you there. Far as I know only way to disable that splash screen is to not install Safestrap. Word of warning: When you install KitKat, the original Samsung Galaxy Note 3 splash screen will also change. The new screen will have an unlocked 'lock' pictured. I have no idea if Beanstown put that there or not. Doesn't bother me since Heaven forbid anything goes wrong I can roll back to stock 4.3.

    Hope this helps, good luck!

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    Hey Lefty Dummer,

    Sorry for all the questions, but I am always VERY through when rooting/flashing etc., but I just have one more question before I proceed...

    The 2 steps below, are they both to actually be done in recovery? It looks like it, but the instructions doesn't specify. Thanks so much for all of your help!


    - Install De-Odexed or Odexed NC2 zip or Baja Rom KKv1 (from sdcard) (Keep your eyes open for additional 4.4.2 Roms)

    - DON'T hit reboot, hit back arrow twice, hit REBOOT, choose DOWNLOAD
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    Yes and yes. Zip files only installed in recovery, and from there follow that next step of getting into download mode. From there you'll go to Odin.

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    Hey Batman (and anyone else reading this),

    A little FYI - Last night, I was having an issue with my earphones jack. Tried several remedies and nothing worked. Saw some people suggested the good Ol' Factory Data Reset. SOOooooo, I did, from the settings menu...... Forgot to uninstall Safestrap beforehand. Totally soft bricked my phone into a bowl of Kellogg's Bootloops..LOL I ended up having to Odin the full factory image for 4.3 MJE. What a royal pain in the behind, but it worked. Totally restored my phone to out of the box status. Then rooted via Kingo, and followed above procedure to get back to KitKat. Took awhile, but all is well, and working flawlessly. So it is indeed possible to get back to 4.3 if you would ever need to and have to take your phone to Verizon for any reason.
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    You can try this don't know if its what you are looking for: Report says NC3 is now rootable! - Page 2 - xda-developers
    Quote Originally Posted by bak9799 View Post
    will work with the Note 3 on Verizon after the OTA Kit Kat update, Baseband N900VVRUCNC4?

    I'm having a hard time finding anything.

    Thanks in advanced!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neal Smith View Post
    You can try this don't know if its what you are looking for: Report says NC3 is now rootable! - Page 2 - xda-developers
    Thanks for the tip. If I see enough people confirm root I may give it a try. But since I know this NC2 has a method back in case of disaster I might hold off.

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    Good stuff! I've been waiting for rooted Kit Kat maturity. Looks like we're getting there. Once I get some time, I'll probably still go your route Lefty. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefty Drummer View Post
    Hey Batman (and anyone else reading this),

    A little FYI - Last night, I was having an issue with my earphones jack. Tried several remedies and nothing worked. Saw some people suggested the good Ol' Factory Data Reset. SOOooooo, I did, from the settings menu...... Forgot to uninstall Safestrap beforehand. Totally soft bricked my phone into a bowl of Kellogg's Bootloops..LOL I ended up having to Odin the full factory image for 4.3 MJE. What a royal pain in the behind, but it worked. Totally restored my phone to out of the box status. Then rooted via Kingo, and followed above procedure to get back to KitKat. Took awhile, but all is well, and working flawlessly. So it is indeed possible to get back to 4.3 if you would ever need to and have to take your phone to Verizon for any reason.
    Lefty Drummer,

    I'm glad to see that the whole process worked out for you. Bootloops are a real pain in the but, and take up a lot of your time to recover from! Nevertheless, it is great to know that a process is still available that will take us back to stock 4.3 and also allows you to upgrade back to Kit Kat. As usual, thanks so much for sharing your experiences as well as for all of your help in general with this process! As I've said many times before..."these forums & the Android community ARE GREAT, and in many cases are also a life saver!"
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    Without out a doubt they are! With root available seemingly for the OTA I may yet go that route. However there's no way back to 4.3 if necessary. But I guess you could always Odin NC4 from scratch if you had to. I'm quite happy here with NC2 for now. Really don't see the need to grab the OTA at this point. Cheers!

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    Lefty Drummer,

    I took the plunge and updated to Kit Kat yesterday and everything went well. I followed all the steps word for word and had no problems, so I thank you again for answering all of my prep questions, that really helped a lot.

    Of course I used Safestrap 3.65 as part of the process, but did not install SS 3.71 as I do not really intend on flashing any roms any time soon, and my understanding is that is where 3.71 comes in. So now my final question is, "Is version 3.65 still running, and if so, what should be done (if anything) before I ever perform a Factory Data Reset?" Do I need to uninstall 3.65, or is it just installed but not doing anything? I don't want to also end up in a bootloop if I can prevent it.

    Coincidentally, I also saw that just as soon as I did the upgrade, I saw a post that the latest KK OTA has now been rooted on the Note 3! I don't know if I should or even want to bother with going through the whole process all over again, especially not knowing if there is even a real advantage to doing so. Although I hate to say that I'm still having the same data reception issues that I had before, which was my sole reason for upgrading to KK. But lots of people are now confirming that they have NO data signal problems, so with no guarantee that my data strength would even improve, I don't really want the hassles or risks of doing this all over again. I'm starting to think that Verizon has maybe made some sort of changes in my area that they won't admit to and it is affecting my data signal (giving me only 3 bars where I always used to get 5).

    I also found it odd that I now see a message that the S-Voice/Voice Command that used to wake up the phone no longer works if you have your device's ringer and alerts set to vibrate, which I had never heard before AND presents a problem for me since I have ALWAYS kept my phones set to vibrate instead of ringing and making alert sounds. Other than this issue and the data signal problem I guess KK is working O.K., although I still want it FIXED.

    So as usual, I welcome you (and everyone else here) to share your thoughts on this. Thanks.
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    Lefty Drummer,

    I took the plunge and updated to Kit Kat yesterday and everything went well. I followed all the steps word for word and had no problems, so I thank you again for answering all of my prep questions, that really helped a lot.

    Of course I used Safestrap 3.65 as part of the process, but did not install SS 3.71 as I do not really intend on flashing any roms any time soon, and my understanding is that is where 3.71 comes in. So now my final question is, "Is version 3.65 still running, and if so, what should be done (if anything) before I ever perform a Factory Data Reset?" Do I need to uninstall 3.65, or is it just installed but not doing anything? I don't want to also end up in a bootloop if I can prevent it.

    Coincidentally, I also saw that just as soon as I did the upgrade, I saw a post that the latest KK OTA has now been rooted on the Note 3! I don't know if I should or even want to bother with going through the whole process all over again, especially not knowing if there is even a real advantage to doing so. Although I hate to say that I'm still having the same data reception issues that I had before, which was my sole reason for upgrading to KK. But lots of people are now confirming that they have NO data signal problems, so with no guarantee that my data strength would even improve, I don't really want the hassles or risks of doing this all over again. I'm starting to think that Verizon has maybe made some sort of changes in my area that they won't admit to and it is affecting my data signal (giving me only 3 bars where I always used to get 5).

    I also found it odd that I now see a message that the S-Voice/Voice Command that used to wake up the phone no longer works if you have your device's ringer and alerts set to vibrate, which I had never heard before AND presents a problem for me since I have ALWAYS kept my phones set to vibrate instead of ringing and making alert sounds. Other than this issue and the data signal problem I guess KK is working O.K., although I still want it FIXED.

    So as usual, I welcome you (and everyone else here) to share your thoughts on this. Thanks.
    Hey Batman,

    Glad it went well for you. Check your app drawer there should be no Safestrap installed there. Once the new os was installed from Odin it was deleted. Certainly you can verify this by restarting and you'll see the Safestrap splash screen is no more. My issue occurred because I did install SS 3.72 (gave a thought to installing some roms). When I tried to fdr from inside the settings menu, it tried to restart and boot into stock recovery to finish the process. That's when the bootloop started because the Note 3 splash screen came up and up in the left hand corner in blue it said "starting recovery". After 5 seconds the screen went blank, the phone vibrated and the N3 splash screen came up again, sans little blue text. Blank again, vibrated, then the whole process would loop. I believe with SS installed it futzed everything up. Had I uninstalled SS think it would have been fine.

    I'm quite happy on NC2 do not see a reason to jump to NC4 at this time. I know root is now available for the OTA but there's no way to roll back if need be to either 4.3 or NC2 KK.

    Sorry you're still having problems with data signal, wish I could help you there. Probably a network issue these phones are I believe too good.

    Don't use S voice either but it does seem that every once in awhile either a carrier or manufacturer will change or delete a function that we use and like. Hope you get it sorted out.

    Later!

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    Lefty Drummer,

    Thanks for the explanation on how you "bootlooped". I'm fine then as far as doing any FDRs if needed. Although now I'm confused. I thought it was SS that was allowing a way back to stock 4.3. So what is it, these pre rooted roms that we're running?

    Also, do you know if there is much difference between NC2 and NC4? If it's possibly the radios then maybe I could actually get a better data signal with another upgrade huh (??), as long as it is, or can be rooted. I have a few rooted apps that are mandatory.

    If it turns out that NC4 does in fact have better reception, AND is rooted, I hope another great tutorial comes out with good details.

    Thx. B.
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