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    Default Is Verizon Samsung GS4 GSM unlocked for international use ?

    Does anyone know if the GS4 with verizon is GSM unlocked like their iphone5 ? Is anyone able to verify it with a verizon GS4
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    Default Re: Is verizon Samsung GS4 GSM unlocked for international use ?

    Quote Originally Posted by venkat1983 View Post
    Does anyone know if the GS4 with verizon is GSM unlocked like their iphone5 ? Is anyone able to verify it with a verizon GS4
    From what I've read, the Verizon Galaxy S4 is unlocked for international use. However, only voice and sms are functional, while roaming on an international carrier. Hope this helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by MERCDROID View Post
    However, only voice and sms are functional, while roaming on an international carrier.
    Wrong. You just need to enter the proper APN for data (as on any phone). There is no APN editing block as there was on the S3 or the original Note 2 firmware.
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    I don't know if this will help you, but I just talked to a verizon rep on the phone to find this out because I am going abroad in the fall, and she told me that all of their 4G phones are "global ready" which means they will work with a sim card abroad, and you don't need to call technical support to get them unlocked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s44 View Post
    Wrong. You just need to enter the proper APN for data (as on any phone). There is no APN editing block as there was on the S3 or the original Note 2 firmware.
    Actually, you're both right/wrong.

    If its like the s3, you can get at least voice, and probably sms on the phone without putting the APN data in.
    Some APN data seems to be stored on the SIM, depending on which company. docomo in japan does not have APN information on the SIM, but the verizon SIM automatically populates the APN data in the states.
    If you want to use a data plan, you need to update the APN settings. Shouldn't be a problem once its rooted, but the stock verizon software won't allow APN updates.
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    You're wrong. You don't even own the S4. The S3 is irrelevant.
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    Isn't there a law that says Verizon's LTE phones have to be unlocked due to their license of the 700mhz spectrum?

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    The S4 is supposed to work in Europe (and etc.) right out of the box, as long as you've called Verizon to enable International roaming on your account. But, used that way, you'll be paying Verizon for International roaming and it's bloody expensive.

    The question is, can you remove the SIM and put in a SIM for a local carrier in the foreign country where you are and use the phone on that carrier? That is what being unlocked would allow you to do. Past Verizon phones have not been unlocked to allow this. But, if you called Tech Support and told them you were going to Europe and wanted to use a local SIM, they would walk you through unlocking (at no charge).

    I read a report that the S4 is not locked and that you can use a SIM for a local carrier in Europe, as it comes out of the box. But, I would not trust that. I would call VZW Tech Support and tell them exactly what you want to do - i.e. don't say "can I use my phone in Europe?" The answer to that is yes, you can, at about $1/minute. What you should ask them is, "can I travel to Europe and purchase a SIM from a local carrier and use that in my phone?" If not, they should be able to walk you through unlocking the phone, so you can do that.
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    Further point of note:

    If you replace your SIM with a local SIM, your phone will no longer be connected to your Verizon number - until you put your Verizon SIM back in, of course. With the Euro SIM in your phone, you will have a new number that is local to wherever you are. Say, for example, you go to London and purchase a Three UK SIM and stick it in your phone. From then, you'll be able to call local London numbers at a local call rate (i.e. cheap). But, if anybody calls your Verizon number, it will go straight to voice mail.

    Fortunately, if you use Google Voice for your voice mail, when that happens, you'll get an email to your phone (whenever you have a data connection), and you'll know that somebody has called and left you a message. You can listen to it then. And, if you want to call them back, you'll have the choice to make an International call using your Three UK number, or you can put your Verizon SIM back in and make the call using your Verizon account. I have no idea which way would be less expensive. You'd have to consult with Verizon and the local carrier on their International calling rates to figure that out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StuartV View Post
    Further point of note:

    If you replace your SIM with a local SIM, your phone will no longer be connected to your Verizon number - until you put your Verizon SIM back in, of course. With the Euro SIM in your phone, you will have a new number that is local to wherever you are. Say, for example, you go to London and purchase a Three UK SIM and stick it in your phone. From then, you'll be able to call local London numbers at a local call rate (i.e. cheap). But, if anybody calls your Verizon number, it will go straight to voice mail.

    Fortunately, if you use Google Voice for your voice mail, when that happens, you'll get an email to your phone (whenever you have a data connection), and you'll know that somebody has called and left you a message. You can listen to it then. And, if you want to call them back, you'll have the choice to make an International call using your Three UK number, or you can put your Verizon SIM back in and make the call using your Verizon account. I have no idea which way would be less expensive. You'd have to consult with Verizon and the local carrier on their International calling rates to figure that out.
    Now that is a great reply

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hustleman View Post
    Isn't there a law that says Verizon's LTE phones have to be unlocked due to their license of the 700mhz spectrum?
    It's not a law, it's FCC regulations, but yes. This is why every LTE device of theirs has come out SIM-unlocked.

    Quote Originally Posted by StuartV View Post
    The question is, can you remove the SIM and put in a SIM for a local carrier in the foreign country where you are and use the phone on that carrier? That is what being unlocked would allow you to do. Past Verizon phones have not been unlocked to allow this.
    Wrong. You rattle on and on like you have a clue, but you have literally no idea what you're talking about.

    *EVERY* current Verizon LTE device can have the SIM swapped for carrier-native use on any GSM network -- here or abroad. The FCC literally forbids Verizon from SIM-locking these devices. That you don't know this shows your cluelessness. *Some* previous devices have played hide-the-ball with APN settings to require root for data access on non-VZ carriers. Again, this doesn't restrict voice or text use on other networks at all, only data. The Galaxy S3 and the original Note 2 firmware did (this has since been updated out on the Note!), while the iPhone 5, the DNA, and the Galaxy S4 were released with *no APN restrictions whatsoever*. The S4 doesn't let you change the APN if the original VZ SIM is inserted, but that's only sensible.

    Get a clue.
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    Hey ,

    Thank you all for your response. Esp stuartV and S44.
    I checked with verizon customer support. They sound like the phone should work seamlessly with a foreign GSM network (voice,data and SMS). I do not trust them 100 % though.
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    Great! I'm in New Zealand and might try this out! I'll report back if it works or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s44 View Post
    It's not a law, it's FCC regulations, but yes. This is why every LTE device of theirs has come out SIM-unlocked.

    Wrong. You rattle on and on like you have a clue, but you have literally no idea what you're talking about.

    *EVERY* current Verizon LTE device can have the SIM swapped for carrier-native use on any GSM network -- here or abroad. The FCC literally forbids Verizon from SIM-locking these devices. That you don't know this shows your cluelessness. *Some* previous devices have played hide-the-ball with APN settings to require root for data access on non-VZ carriers. Again, this doesn't restrict voice or text use on other networks at all, only data. The Galaxy S3 and the original Note 2 firmware did (this has since been updated out on the Note!), while the iPhone 5, the DNA, and the Galaxy S4 were released with *no APN restrictions whatsoever*. The S4 doesn't let you change the APN if the original VZ SIM is inserted, but that's only sensible.

    Get a clue.
    Since it looks like you definitely know what you are talking about I hope you can help me out too. I got the S4 (I545) with verizon last month and currently trying a local Sim abroad. Although the phone is indeed unlocked (which is what the VZW techies also tell you) the new sim doesn't allow you ta make any changes to roaming or APN features and keeps warning you that no Verizon sim is found. I think voice works but I'm not able to use data with the other carriers sim card.
    I never rooted the phone and also ran latest update which apparently blocks the latest way of rooting your phone. Do you have any idea what else I can do. It seems very frustrating that Verizon promises you an unlocked phone but it still seems to be carrier locked somehow. Mind you I googled a little and seems there is only problem with the 545 version and the 9500 versions are all working abroad.

    Any help/tips or advise is welcome!
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    I just came back from Jordan. I popped the Verizon SIM out and inserted a local prepaid SIM from the Jordanian carriers into my S4. All, voice, text and data worked. The phone had a sign on the top saying "Non Verizon SIM Card" but it worked!!

    If you can't get either of the voice/data/test to work, then you have to go to Settings-Connections-More networks-Mobile networks-Network mode and switch the selection to "Global"
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    Settings-Connections-More networks-Mobile networks- Access Point Names, click lower left corner of the phone to add then click "Add New Access Point" and add the parameters of the local carriers (You'll have to get that from the local carrier or google it)

    Hope this helps!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmad Gharaibeh View Post
    I just came back from Jordan. I popped the Verizon SIM out and inserted a local prepaid SIM from the Jordanian carriers into my S4. All, voice, text and data worked. The phone had a sign on the top saying "Non Verizon SIM Card" but it worked!!

    If you can't get either of the voice/data/test to work, then you have to go to Settings-Connections-More networks-Mobile networks-Network mode and switch the selection to "Global"
    Then
    Settings-Connections-More networks-Mobile networks- Access Point Names, click lower left corner of the phone to add then click "Add New Access Point" and add the parameters of the local carriers (You'll have to get that from the local carrier or google it)

    Hope this helps!
    Both of my GS4 32Gb phones came configured to the Global setting. It worked fine in Southern Californa on Global but I have switched it to LTE/CDMA and it also works fine. Should I leave it on LTE/CDMA ??
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    I am having issues with the phone working in Germany right now. I can call and text but I cannot use data... Supposely there is an software issue with samsung and the rep on Verizon says that there has been an issue ongoing with this. I will let you know if I can get it to work but sounds like its not gonna happen
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    Going through this thread there doesn't seem to be a consensus. Has anybody else been able to pop in a SIM from a gsm country and have it work on a Verizon GS4 for talk, text and data? Verizon is not in agreement on this - some say yes, some say not yet because will require a software upgrade. This is all assuming an unlocked phone. Thanks.
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    Just went to Korea and plugged in several sim cards and they dont work in the s4.
    the error message is the sim is not a Verizon sim. And even with global settings picked it still did not like the new sim.
    If the phone was really unlocked. Then why this error Message.

    I need to resolve this issue quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Kanczak View Post
    Just went to Korea and plugged in several sim cards and they dont work in the s4.
    the error message is the sim is not a Verizon sim. And even with global settings picked it still did not like the new sim.
    If the phone was really unlocked. Then why this error Message.

    I need to resolve this issue quickly.
    Yes, it's not unlocked. I just got my 32GB today and tried a SIM from the Philippines and Singapore. No go on both. I also get the not a Verizon SIM message.
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    I am leaving for Saudi soon and called Verizon to confirm the SIM issue with the GS4. The rep told me that the sim card must be a "usim" which only works with Verizon networks. Thinking about having my phone rooted before I leave the country. Interested to see what others have to say.
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    I will be traveling to Europe as well and reading thru this thread it doesn't seem like sim is unlocked? I've tried for the test using t-mobile USA and it wouldn't work not even voice!

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    I have tested a T-mobile sim in a verizon GS4 and was able to make/receive calls and text but no data. This is a new GS4 just received from verizon. Only took it out of the box, inserted verizon sim to activate, then immediately removed and inserted tmobile (pre-paid) SIM and did the test.

    So even in the US, using tmobile's sim you can make/receive calls and SMS with verizon's GS4.

    Will have to explore further to see if I can get data working.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thenew3 View Post
    I have tested a T-mobile sim in a verizon GS4 and was able to make/receive calls and text but no data. This is a new GS4 just received from verizon. Only took it out of the box, inserted verizon sim to activate, then immediately removed and inserted tmobile (pre-paid) SIM and did the test.

    So even in the US, using tmobile's sim you can make/receive calls and SMS with verizon's GS4.

    Will have to explore further to see if I can get data working.
    I wonder why it didn't work in my case, I also have t-mobile prepaid. You didn't change any settings? Can you please post some screenshots?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyBeGood View Post
    I wonder why it didn't work in my case, I also have t-mobile prepaid. You didn't change any settings? Can you please post some screenshots?

    Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 4
    I didn't change any settings. just took the fresh GS4 out of the box, inserted verizon sim, activated, made a test call and text. then shut it down, took out the vzw sim, inserted my friends tmobile pre-paid sim, booted up, made test call and sms. both worked fine, no data connection.

    and was able to get ride of the 'non-verizon sim' message by disabling "setup manager" app.
    I don't have any screen shots right now as I only borrowed the sim for a few minutes for the test. (Was curious if it would work).

    Next time I see that friend, or friends with AT&T SIM's I'll borrow it and test again and do a screen shot.
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