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    Default Kitkat Issue: Can't Write to External SD Card

    Just downloaded the 4.4.2 update about an hour ago and found a HUGE issue (potentially).

    I can no longer write to my microSD card!!

    Tried using the official Samsung USB adapter to transfer files off a flash drive, and I immediately got an "Unable to Write File" error. Tried older files to make sure it wasn't a file problem. Same error. Then I tried to create a new folder on my microSD card using ASTRO File Manager, and the new folder does not appear.

    Looks like 4.4.2 just broke our ability to use our expandable storage. Now I have to take out my card and plug it into my Chromebook via adapter every time I want to write to my card!!
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    Default Re: Kitkat Issue: Can't Write to External SD Card

    Quote Originally Posted by JGouse0498 View Post
    Just downloaded the 4.4.2 update about an hour ago and found a HUGE issue (potentially).

    I can no longer write to my microSD card!!

    Tried using the official Samsung USB adapter to transfer files off a flash drive, and I immediately got an "Unable to Write File" error. Tried older files to make sure it wasn't a file problem. Same error. Then I tried to create a new folder on my microSD card using ASTRO File Manager, and the new folder does not appear.

    Looks like 4.4.2 just broke our ability to use our expandable storage. Now I have to take out my card and plug it into my Chromebook via adapter every time I want to write to my card!!
    This is something that is Google's fault. It's known already that Kit Kat breaks the ability to write to external storage like SD Cards.
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    Default Re: Kitkat Issue: Can't Write to External SD Card

    Just to clarify:

    I'm talking about copying my own files to folders that I've created on my SD card. I'm not talking about apps writing to the card. But if 4.4.2 won't even let me copy files from a flash drive using Samsung's own USB adapter, then what freaking good is the bloody SD card anymore???!!
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    Thanks.

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    UPDATE: Thank you for the assistance, guys. Looks like I have to use Samsung's generic "My Files" app to do this. USB flash drive adapter still works. Not an ideal app to use for file management, but at least I can still copy my own music files.
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    Default Re: Kitkat Issue: Can't Write to External SD Card

    Quote Originally Posted by JGouse0498 View Post
    So what then...even if I'm trying to copy MP3s off my laptop onto the MP3 directory that I created myself, it won't work anymore? What? I've got to keep pulling the card out of the phone EVERY TIME I WANT TO PUT A FILE ON IT???!!!
    That should still work with MTP protocol.
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    Default Re: Kitkat Issue: Can't Write to External SD Card

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin O'Quinn View Post
    That should still work with MTP protocol.
    Thanks, I got it working with the stock file manager. Cleaned up the thread of some earlier posts so new viewers won't get confused. Hopefully, ASTRO can update their app to accommodate this change.
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    Default Re: Kitkat Issue: Can't Write to External SD Card

    Quote Originally Posted by JGouse0498 View Post
    Thanks, I got it working with the stock file manager. Cleaned up the thread of some earlier posts so new viewers won't get confused. Hopefully, ASTRO can update their app to accommodate this change.
    Have you tried ES File Explorer?
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    Default Re: Kitkat Issue: Can't Write to External SD Card

    I might give that a try.

    Honestly, now I'm trying to figure out why I'm getting double notifications from my Calendar. I only have Google Calendar turned on.

    4.4.2 has been nothing but a headache so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JGouse0498 View Post
    I might give that a try.

    Honestly, now I'm trying to figure out why I'm getting double notifications from my Calendar. I only have Google Calendar turned on.

    4.4.2 has been nothing but a headache so far.
    I wouldn't mind getting rid of the dual calendar notifications either....

    :::EDIT:::
    I found a fix....

    It looks like the update reset some apps to their default settings.

    Go into Google Calendar - Menu>Settings>General Settings>Check the 'Notifications' box to make sure it is active.

    Go to the default Calendar app - Menu>Settings>Set alerts and notifications>Turn This off

    Fixed it for me.
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    Default Re: Kitkat Issue: Can't Write to External SD Card

    Quote Originally Posted by Randomhero180 View Post
    I wouldn't mind getting rid of the dual calendar notifications either....

    :::EDIT:::
    I found a fix....

    It looks like the update reset some apps to their default settings.

    Go into Google Calendar - Menu>Settings>General Settings>Check the 'Notifications' box to make sure it is active.

    Go to the default Calendar app - Menu>Settings>Set alerts and notifications>Turn This off

    Fixed it for me.
    That's what I did, but I think what the update did was reactivate the stock calendar app and removed our ability to disable/turn it off. Because that's what I had done before 4.4.2. I had disabled the stock calendar app.

    BTW, ES File Explorer works great and restores the functionality that I lost in ASTRO.
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    Default Re: Kitkat Issue: Can't Write to External SD Card

    Quote Originally Posted by wizzrah View Post
    Have you tried ES File Explorer?
    I use this app all the time, has it been updated for 4.4.2?
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    Default Re: Kitkat Issue: Can't Write to External SD Card

    Quote Originally Posted by tarnak View Post
    I use this app all the time, has it been updated for 4.4.2?
    Using it now on my HTC One XL running 4.4.2. Works flawless.
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    Default Re: Kitkat Issue: Can't Write to External SD Card

    When it comes to tech stuff, I can get get easily confused so I come to the forums and try to get all the info I can before making any changes to anything tech I own. When I heard of the new update and the issue with the external SD card I came here to try and clarify and hopefully get the correct answer before doing the update. I use my SD card just for music and photos. My musicand some photos are downloaded from my computer onto the SD card via the USB cable. If I do the update, does it mean I will no longer be able to listen to my music in the Google Play music app or access the photos I have downloaded onto the SD card? If someone could explain this SD card change to me in simple words for the tech-challenged would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to apply this update until I can clarify this. Thanks!
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    Default Re: Kitkat Issue: Can't Write to External SD Card

    Quote Originally Posted by angermgmt20 View Post
    When it comes to tech stuff, I can get get easily confused so I come to the forums and try to get all the info I can before making any changes to anything tech I own. When I heard of the new update and the issue with the external SD card I came here to try and clarify and hopefully get the correct answer before doing the update. I use my SD card just for music and photos. My musicand some photos are downloaded from my computer onto the SD card via the USB cable. If I do the update, does it mean I will no longer be able to listen to my music in the Google Play music app or access the photos I have downloaded onto the SD card? If someone could explain this SD card change to me in simple words for the tech-challenged would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to apply this update until I can clarify this. Thanks!
    Apparently, Google has restricted apps from writing to the SD card without a specific type of coding or set of permissions or something like that. After updating to KitKat, I found that I could no longer transfer music files to my MP3 directory on my SD card, which is why I started the thread. It turns out that ASTRO File Manager (which I was using) hadn't been updated by the developer to accommodate the new OS. However, the stock Samsung "My Files" app was properly updated. If you use that app, you can do everything you did pre-KitKat. ES File Explorer is also 4.4.2-functional.

    Bottom line: you can still access, copy, delete, etc. your personal music and image files on your SD card. You just may be limited to specific file manager apps. Overall, it turns out not to be a huge issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JGouse0498 View Post
    Thanks, I got it working with the stock file manager. Cleaned up the thread of some earlier posts so new viewers won't get confused. Hopefully, ASTRO can update their app to accommodate this change.
    Personally, I rather like the stock file manager. Someone was saying File Expert was also working on Samsung with Kit-Kat, but I just tried it and it froze the first time I tried it. The native Samsung file manager is actually quite nice. I have both Astro and Andro, which I purchased for an older HTC model, and I've hardly used either since buying the S4, even prior to this latest update. Other device owners may be in more of a fix --in my ignorance I assumed everyone had a native file manager app recently in a thread on another device. Samsung gets a lot of blow back at times for bloat and redundant apps, but this supposedly unnecessary File Manager app made a lot of people happy when this new update arrived.

    On another sub-forum here, people are talking about the benefits of rooting---and some of the reasons (File Manager, Greenify) don't matter much to me as a Samsung user. I can see why others with plain vanilla Android and non-removable batteries might be more interested...

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    Default Re: Kitkat Issue: Can't Write to External SD Card

    So if I understand you correctly, this is more of an issue if you have apps on your SD card that are used for certain files. To access my SD card I go into the "my files" app/ all files/ SD card, so I shouldn't have any problems.
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    Default Re: Kitkat Issue: Can't Write to External SD Card

    This does not work for me. I can turn off notifications in the default Calendar app, but when I reboot the phone all notification settings in the default calendar app are turned back on. Is anyone else experiencing this behavior?
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    I've been using ES File Explorer and it works fine with the External SD Card. The other apps that I have that access the card seem to have no issues also. If you have one that won't work with the SD Card that used too, contact the Dev. They are the ones that can make the app work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigredgonzo View Post
    I've been using ES File Explorer and it works fine with the External SD Card. The other apps that I have that access the card seem to have no issues also. If you have one that won't work with the SD Card that used too, contact the Dev. They are the ones that can make the app work.

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    There are sometimes subtle issues you don't always notice at first. For instance, MX Player will play files. It will delete files. It can't rename them in my preferred directory...
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    Default Re: Kitkat Issue: Can't Write to External SD Card

    Quote Originally Posted by monsieurms View Post
    There are sometimes subtle issues you don't always notice at first. For instance, MX Player will play files. It will delete files. It can't rename them in my preferred directory...
    Agreed, absolutely no argument there. Google's changes were to address SD Card security and I personally don't think they did a very good job letting the devs know what the changes did, or we wouldn't have see so many SD Card issues with 3rd party stuff. However, letting the devs know where you have issues is about the only way the issues will get addressed. I have read several articles and one white paper on the SD Card change and I don't quite comprehend how it will make the card more secure, but that is what they are claiming. If the 3rd party app is written correctly, it should have all the access that it needs to do what it is supposed to do, but no more. Somehow that concept is going to keep apps that don't need access from gaining it in other parts of the card where they don't need to be messing. Seems to me its like a lock on the back door of your house, it works fine and your key opens it and it keeps people out, but it the wrong people want in, the lock doesn't make any difference. My dad used to say a lock is designed to keep the honest people out. That is how I understand the SD Card Changes.

    Anyway...its there and we deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigredgonzo View Post
    Agreed, absolutely no argument there. Google's changes were to address SD Card security and I personally don't think they did a very good job letting the devs know what the changes did, or we wouldn't have see so many SD Card issues with 3rd party stuff. However, letting the devs know where you have issues is about the only way the issues will get addressed. I have read several articles and one white paper on the SD Card change and I don't quite comprehend how it will make the card more secure, but that is what they are claiming. If the 3rd party app is written correctly, it should have all the access that it needs to do what it is supposed to do, but no more. Somehow that concept is going to keep apps that don't need access from gaining it in other parts of the card where they don't need to be messing. Seems to me its like a lock on the back door of your house, it works fine and your key opens it and it keeps people out, but it the wrong people want in, the lock doesn't make any difference. My dad used to say a lock is designed to keep the honest people out. That is how I understand the SD Card Changes.

    Anyway...its there and we deal with it.
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    I like your analogies. In point of fact, this "security" feature is just overkill. I don't know how Google can tell my apps what part of the card they are supposed to be messing with. If I want to point Cool Reader to /books or /Kindle or /ebooks, that is something I create.

    The easiest way is to do what Microsoft does. Card wants to change a file, a warning pops up "allow?" Done. Stop the madness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monsieurms View Post
    I like your analogies. In point of fact, this "security" feature is just overkill. I don't know how Google can tell my apps what part of the card they are supposed to be messing with. If I want to point Cool Reader to /books or /Kindle or /ebooks, that is something I create.

    The easiest way is to do what Microsoft does. Card wants to change a file, a warning pops up "allow?" Done. Stop the madness.
    From what I understand, the concept is an app says this is what I will use and it is allowed to use that and only that. Evidently there were some apps that were "digging around" in places that they didn't need to go. That being said, I use ES File Explorer. ES has no problems accessing any portion of the SD Card, which means that a "rogue" app would only need to request the same thing that ES does and they are back in business. Of course, that would require an update to the bad app and typically bad apps never get through their first update, but it could happen and very easily would be my guess. Anyway, this is Google's concept of better security. I haven't had any issues with it, but I agree with you. Why can't I keep my books, my music, my bible stuff, my whatever where ever I choose? Seems a bit overbearing to me. But just remember, with Android we are just one upgrade away from something very different and I guess that's why I love it.

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    You can keep it where ever you want! Not sure what the issue is. This is a restriction on your apps' not you. You choose to install app to internal or external memory. You don't choose the folder name. Broken apps need to be fixed as the example of Astro. I use es file explorer as well. Let's me connect to my cloud through it and I don't use those pesky dropbox and drive and box apps. I love it!

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    Not true. I had my photos saved to the SD card, and notice I was missing quite a few. Then I tried this little experiment and found that you lose stuff:

    1. I took some pictures which saved to my internal storage in the "Camera" folder.
    2. I used the Gallery (stock Google app, like you say above) to "move" those photos to a folder on my SD card where a lot of other pictures are.
    3. I then moved a file from "Downloads" in my internal storage to "Downloads" in my SD card.

    Everything looked hunky dory until I rebooted my phone. And when it all came back up, the photos and the document I moved from internal storage to the SD card were GONE.

    I updated to KitKat on March 3. I notice there are no files older than 3/3/14 on my SD card. If I remove the SD card and put it in either of my computers (my mac at home, my windows machine at work), I cannot even write to it there.

    None of my internal backups are there since 3/3/14.

    This "upgrade" has rendered my SD card useless. Sorry, I don't need that patronizing little post about "what's misunderstood". It's BROKEN. Even the stock apps and Google/Android apps can't use the card. Feh!
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