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    Default THIS is Why I'll Only Buy a Phone With a Removable Battery

    The super-awesome over-hyped Samsung S4 super-phone gives you this kind of battery life with LIGHT use. Battery is 10 months old. What if it was non-removable? I'd be (edited by Moderator) outta luck. Worn battery, buy a new one. But 6 hours on a full charge? Junk. Did I mention LIGHT usage?

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    I do love being able to swap batteries on my Note but for my needs it wouldn't be a deal breaker if I really liked a phone that couldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almeuit View Post
    I do love being able to swap batteries on my Note but for my needs it wouldn't be a deal breaker if I really liked a phone that couldn't.

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    Deal breaker for me for this reason. I don't overcharge, I sparingly use my car charger, and this is the result? I see a warranty exchange in my near future.

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    Yeah, you got a bum battery if it's not holding a charge after less than a year with light usage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zorak950 View Post
    Yeah, you got a bum battery if it's not holding a charge after less than a year with light usage.
    Totally agree. I'll call Big Red tomorrow and see if a corporate store can do the exchange or have to go through the hassle of FedEx.

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    I think I got a bum battery is my nexus 5
    But then again I'm a heavy user and with the s4
    I never had to worry about it..


    Kinda missing the removable battery status.

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    Default Re: THIS is Why I'll Only Buy a Phone With a Removable Battery

    Quote Originally Posted by Murph5150 View Post
    The super-awesome over-hyped Samsung S4 super-phone gives you this kind of battery life with LIGHT use. Battery is 10 months old. What if it was non-removable? I'd be **** outta luck. Worn battery, buy a new one. But 6 hours on a full charge? Junk. Did I mention LIGHT usage?
    So what are you going to do when ALL phones have an embedded battery? Because that's the trend, and I wouldn't be surprised if that is the de facto situation next year.
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    I seriously think that it is problem with your phone....
    Galaxy S2 at my home which is almost 3 years old is getting such battery life....(July 2011)

    My iPod touch 4th gen gives 5 days standby with wifi connected (3.5 years old, bought for 2010 Christmas)

    Or 30 hours audio......(with push notifications for Facebook , Mail etc.)


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    Default Re: THIS is Why I'll Only Buy a Phone With a Removable Battery

    I haven't had a removable battery in 2-3 years and haven't had a single issue.
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    From the screenshot, you cell signal looks kind of weak. That may be a contributing factor to the drain.

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    I agree with the OP. Why I love my Note 3, not only to swap out batteries but to get an extended one like the Zerolemon if I so choose (which I did!)

    Removable battery just gives you more options, which is why we all love Android right? To be able to choose and have options?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murph5150 View Post
    Deal breaker for me for this reason. I don't overcharge, I sparingly use my car charger, and this is the result? I see a warranty exchange in my near future.

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    You can't overcharge these batteries.

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    You know thinking about it Murph... Did you let the battery get real low all the time? That actually is bad for them and may explain your issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golfdriver97 View Post
    From the screenshot, you cell signal looks kind of weak. That may be a contributing factor to the drain.
    Yep. With a weak signal the device must work harder to catch it which costs energy = battery charge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vsweety View Post
    So what are you going to do when ALL phones have an embedded battery? Because that's the trend, and I wouldn't be surprised if that is the de facto situation next year.
    I'll figure out how to cross that bridge when (more so IF) it happens.

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    I haven't had a removable battery in 2-3 years and haven't had a single issue.
    The point though is that if you did have an issue, it's a lot easier (and cheaper) to replace that battery yourself than it would be with a sealed/embedded one; which would require that you take the device in for service (or ship it in) or have appropriate hand tools and knowledge to attempt it yourself.
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    Changing embedded batteries is not too difficult in non-removable phones. It's just not something you can do casually.

    I agree removable batteries are better. But not for this reason.




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    Changing embedded batteries is not too difficult in non-removable phones. It's just not something you can do casually.

    I agree removable batteries are better. But not for this reason.
    Usually yeah it isn't bad except for the HTC One (either one). From what I've read those can be very difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almeuit View Post
    You can't overcharge these batteries.

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    Correct, once full, it would just stop charging.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDenver View Post
    Changing embedded batteries is not too difficult in non-removable phones. It's just not something you can do casually.

    I agree removable batteries are better. But not for this reason.


    I'd rather do this:



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    I'm right there with you! My phone dies a couple times at least a day. It's frustrating when you cant access an outlet or a car charger. Removable batteries are definitely the way to go!! I can always carry a spare.
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    Let me try and catch up to the myriad of responses.

    1) "Overcharging" is improper terminology. BUT, the more charging cycles a battery goes through, the battery capacity drop is commensurate.

    2) Signal strength on screen shot: According to a reception app I have, it noted my dBm was at 65% of total potential signal strength. Great? No. Bad? No way.

    3) Defective phone? Possibly. Likely? No. Here's why. That signal app I have also estimates your battery life. At 100% charge, it states I have about 18 hours of usable battery. Same app on my old Galaxy Nexus, with about 500 mAh less battery power is noted to give me an estimated battery life of 30 hours; that's 12 hours better than my S4. Considering my S4 has a larger and far newer battery, logic would make one assume the S4 will last longer off of the charger.

    Conclusion: My OS, as noted on my screen shot, seems to be in overdrive. My first guess is I have a parasitic application. I have many apps on my phone so pinpointing the malicious app would be a challenge. Or, maybe the battery is indeed in need of replacement. Unfortunately my volt meter can't test this battery so there might be some trial and error. God knows the Verizon staff lack diagnostic skills.

    I'll start with a new battery. It's the lazy initial approach, but heck, I'm lazy. If that doesn't work, I'll gather up the motivation to see if I can identify the source of draw. No argument a problem exists, it's narrowing down the possibilities.

    Hurry up, LG G3!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murph5150 View Post
    Let me try and catch up to the myriad of responses.

    1) "Overcharging" is improper terminology. BUT, the more charging cycles a battery goes through, the battery capacity drop is commensurate.

    2) Signal strength on screen shot: According to a reception app I have, it noted my dBm was at 65% of total potential signal strength. Great? No. Bad? No way.

    3) Defective phone? Possibly. Likely? No. Here's why. That signal app I have also estimates your battery life. At 100% charge, it states I have about 18 hours of usable battery. Same app on my old Galaxy Nexus, with about 500 mAh less battery power is noted to give me an estimated battery life of 30 hours; that's 12 hours better than my S4. Considering my S4 has a larger and far newer battery, logic would make one assume the S4 will last longer off of the charger.

    Conclusion: My OS, as noted on my screen shot, seems to be in overdrive. My first guess is I have a parasitic application. I have many apps on my phone so pinpointing the malicious app would be a challenge. Or, maybe the battery is indeed in need of replacement. Unfortunately my volt meter can't test this battery so there might be some trial and error. God knows the Verizon staff lack diagnostic skills.

    I'll start with a new battery. It's the lazy initial approach, but heck, I'm lazy. If that doesn't work, I'll gather up the motivation to see if I can identify the source of draw. No argument a problem exists, it's narrowing down the possibilities.

    Hurry up, LG G3!

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    Main question... You know nothing how the G3 runs so.. I know you want it but how do you know it won't be bad or as bad as the problem you have now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almeuit View Post
    Main question... You know nothing how the G3 runs so.. I know you want it but how do you know it won't be bad or as bad as the problem you have now?

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    There is always an element of uncertainty on a new product. But LG did a hell of a job with the G2. Would you agree? Consistent quality. That's what I'm looking for. And I'm willing to roll the dice on the G3. All preliminary write-ups tout this as the "Phone of 2014." So why not? My hands are washed of Samsung, HTC, specifically the Rezound, was all trouble, not a huge Moto fan, Nokia & Windows isn't my flavor, and iOS, well, I'd get edited if I described iOS. So LG it is.

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    If you accepted an OS update, have you cleared the system cache in recovery?

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    If you accepted an OS update, have you cleared the system cache in recovery?

    From a Slim M8 and the AC Forums app.
    Yes, did that among other things.

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