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    Default Re: Little Rock/Central AR LTE

    According to the map, many areas of Salem are considered Extended 4G LTE area. I was at the Alcoa Exchange area, and 3G and 4G battled it out. At one point, I had LTE for over five minutes straight before I went back to 3G. Sometimes, it only lasted less than a second. There's like a speck of Ext. LTE coverage around that area. Most of my download speeds were 10Mbps and higher, with the highest being at just a bit under 15Mbps. Uploads were slightly under 1Mbps, though I hit just over 3Mbps a few times.
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    I got no 4g for 2 months at my house. Now I get it always. 2 bars on my signal strength. . today 6-7 Mbps upload. I hope it gets better. I called the benton store and asked when, they said 1 to 2 weeks it will be done. We will see.
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    That might not be out of the question, though I've heard no news on LTE rollouts for January. It sounds like it's going to happen soon. I'll believe it when I see it, though. They said LTE would be around last year, but it kept getting pushed back.
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    Not quite central AR news, but it appears we may get it soon in Blytheville. There have been guys up on the tower in the middle of town the last few days replacing some panels with wider ones. Last week there were trucks from Fleming Network out there the morning after the service was cut at 11 the night before. Fingers crossed!
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    No, it isn't Central AR, but it's positive signs for other parts of the Natural State.. As of this weekend, I've still not seen any site upgrades in Malvern or Magnet Cove. I'm really looking forward to the upgrades.

    Edit: (11:47pm CT) It was dark outside, but as I was driving through Interstate 30 near Benton and Haskell, the cell site that's closest to the Valero convenience store and the weigh station, there used to be four antennas on each side, but it looks like there's three now (so either the site has been upgraded, or it's being worked on).
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    Sounds like something similar to what they did to our local tower...

    They changed the panels out and moved them around. Now the side facing out of town has 2 narrow, and 1 narrow, slightly longer panel, the other 2 sides have 2 wide and one narrow panel. The wide panels are for sure new. The other panels could have already been there, but moved around. Noticed some are pointing slightly down, some have less of a downturn. Looks like there are some other antennae that weren't there before, and some sort of microwave antenna, large and round, possibly to backhaul the rural tower that's several miles from town, as it's pointed that direction. I'm not sure if they still do wireless backhaul or not like Alltel did.

    The only thing I've noticed, besides the service going out one night, and fluctuations the days they were working on the tower, is the 3G is much more steady and latency is down. I'm getting 80-110 ms ping time now, and nearly always get around 2.5 dn/1 up. Before the upgrades the last couple of weeks, was getting around 2 dn/.8 up w/ ping around 120-150.

    They just sold out our corporate store to an authorized retailer, not sure if they'd be any help, but I'm thinking about calling them.

    I know we're a small town, and I shouldn't be so impatient, but I want it NOW!!!
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    If you're able to and don't mind, I'd like to see what the site looks like, once the upgrades are finished (if they're not already). I enjoy cell site photos. If not, no prob.

    Here's one I probably bounce off of the most at home. The lower antennas are VZ, no LTE (this was taken in December). As soon as I notice any changes, I'll post an after pic.

    I wish I had ping levels as low as yours. I've never had that anywhere in the state, even in LTE areas. They've all been over 100ms. I've had below 100ms in places outside of Arkansas. Last night in an extended LTE area (where you may get LTE part of the time, and 3G for the rest), I hit up to just under 16Mbps/7Mbps speeds. At my house, I get pathetic speeds for 3G (probably because of traffic) and distance. There are times and places I get over 2Mbps/1Mbps, but many times, it's usually 0.20-0.60Mbps for downloads (at my place), a few times, I can hit over 1Mbps for download.
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    It appears they may have done something else to the site, or I may have just gotten it mixed up (more likely) But the service was fluctuating all evening, and 3G kept dropping, then coming back, and the speed was up and down. So who knows. Netflix buffered a few times, and normally video streams perfectly.

    The side with only narrow panels appears it has 2 larger, and one smaller panel. The other 2 sides are still 2 wide and one narrow panel.

    I will get over there this weekend and take some pictures. I may get the ping times and speed I get because I live within eyesight of the tower. It's two blocks from my house, in the winter, when the leaves are gone, I can see it through the trees.

    It could just be this area though, I noticed it does vary region to region. I'm from Paragould, and it's just horrible over there. You're very lucky to get 1 mbps over there, even standing next to one of the 2 towers that serve the area. I know it's just overloaded there. Back in 2007-2009, even before Rev A, it wasn't unusual to get close to 2 mbps in Paragould.

    In the backwoods of Kentucky last spring, I was getting around 2 down and 1.1 up, so it definitely can change from location to location.
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    I did some speed tests around the Alcoa Exchange area in Benton/Bryant (which is currently in the extended coverage area), and I had some pretty nice download and upload speeds. I was able to hit up to 18.36Mbps for a download speed, and up to 12.38Mbps for an upload speed, an average of 8-15Mbps downloads, and 2-6Mbps uploads on Saturday.
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    Not the best photo, but my man sent this to me while I was working. I didn't manage to get any photos this weekend, between the downpour that lasted all day saturday, and the Memphis trip yesterday morning, and superbowl yesterday afternoon. They're back to working on the tower again, as you can see the man climbing in the photo...

    I got between 19 and 26 down, and 6-15 up yesterday while in Memphis

    Note on photo: This tower is not a guyed structure, but it appears they have temporary guy wires attached to it, and the fence. I've noticed they've done this each time they've worked on it, after they finish the temporary guys are gone.
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    It must have been neat to see at least one person climb and work on the tower. So, the two antennas that are noticeably wider are the LTE ones, correct? Thank you for sharing the image.
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    I've got a few more photos I took yesterday afternoon, after work...but, for the first time ever, I forgot my phone at home. The one I posted yesterday was taken between 11 and noon yesterday. When I got back over to Blytheville (I work in Gosnell, about 5 minutes away) yesterday afternoon, and came within sight of the tower I immediately noticed something was different again. I thought they moved the lowest sector of antennae down, but when I got closer, I realized there was 1 less sector. There were 5, 3 larger at the top, and then 2 smaller sets lower, the next to lowest sector and antennas are gone.

    I suspect Clear may have pulled their WiMax service. I used Sprint for my internet until they ended unlimited 4G in November. This particular tower has(or had) AT&T, Verizon, Clear WiMax, possibly T-Mobile on it. I know for sure this tower does not have Sprint on it. When my buddy with an EVO comes over it's weird to see both 3 and 4G indicators. He gets 1-2 bars of 3G, and full 4G, but not so sure now. Gonna have him come and I'll let ya know if that's for sure what they took down. I suspect the tower also carries T-Mobile, as my old company phone was T-Mo and I always had full bars at home with it.

    I'm thinking the 1st and 3rd set from top to bottom are AT&T and Verizon, but not sure which one is which.

    I'll post photos when I get my phone on lunch, maybe someone can take a look at them and tell what is who.
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    Here are the shots I got yesterday afternoon. If you compare it to the previous photo, you'll notice the 2nd set from the bottom up is gone. If you look close at yesterdays photo, they already had the panel facing the camera taken off the 2nd from bottom set, and it looks like the man climbing down is carrying something.

    I *think* the top set is AT&T, and 3rd from top is Verizon, just want someone with more experience to confirm this or correct me.

    The 3rd row down is the one they worked on the last couple of weeks, swapping the more narrow panels for the wide ones. Those are the ones I suspect (hope) will be giving us LTE soon.
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    I can confirm the Clear/Sprint WiMAX 4G service is still going strong, so not quite sure what they took off the tower.
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    Well here it is almost the middle of February and Verizon 4G LTE has still not been officially turned on in Benton AR as was first promised by the end of November. What is the Friggin deal? And another thing.. my Verizon 4G 551? USB modem I bought in october disconnects constantly and I have to reconnect. I'm starting to think I should not have signed a 2 yr contract for this fiasco!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghc37 View Post
    Well here it is almost the middle of February and Verizon 4G LTE has still not been officially turned on in Benton AR as was first promised by the end of November. What is the Friggin deal? And another thing.. my Verizon 4G 551? USB modem I bought in october disconnects constantly and I have to reconnect. I'm starting to think I should not have signed a 2 yr contract for this fiasco!
    Man, the salesmen will promise anything to sell you something...Commission. I always wondered why each time I've upgraded one of my 5 lines on the family plan, they wanted me to give up my Alltel plan...Commission. They make money on plan changes and sales. The guy that activated my T-bolt told me that because of my Alltel Smartpack, The phone would work, but I wouldn't get 4G...I knew that was a line. Most of the sales folks don't know much about network upgrades, unless it's something planned less than 2 weeks out in that area.

    The wait is all about getting the backhaul to the towers, and getting the towers ready for LTE. More importantly, is the backhaul. Because of location(being in the south, where there aren't as many tech savvies), it's not easy to get the kinda bandwidth necessary to support LTE to many towers. That's why Jonesboro got it before Little Rock. Jonesboro is in a lucky position to have close access to multiple Tier1 and Tier2 providers. Ritter, Suddenlink Communications, AT&T, and Verizon for sure all have their own bandwidth available in or near Jonesboro. Possibly others. Not sure on Little Rock, as far as their providers. It probably doesn't hurt Jonesboro that it's so close to Memphis either.

    I'm impatiently waiting as well. We're right on I55, an hour north of Memphis, I was told February by a VZW employee that was not in a sales postion. He was a regional manager for somewhere south of here. I don't know if it's true or not, they been working on the tower. I got fingers crossed, but hey, it's only the 9th. We still have over 2 weeks. Who knows?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghc37 View Post
    Well here it is almost the middle of February and Verizon 4G LTE has still not been officially turned on in Benton AR as was first promised by the end of November. What is the Friggin deal? And another thing.. my Verizon 4G 551? USB modem I bought in october disconnects constantly and I have to reconnect. I'm starting to think I should not have signed a 2 yr contract for this fiasco!
    I have a feeling it may be March or April. They just recently upgraded the monopole site near Haskell, closest to the Valero convenience store. It had four antennas on each side, but it looks like that's no longer the case.

    I'm still waiting to see the nearest cell sites in my community get upgraded, and so far, I haven't seen any new antennas.

    I took a pic of this site earlier. The only thing I see different (that I do not remember seeing before) is what appears to be a microwave antenna (I guess that's what that is) on the lower left. Otherwise, that's it.

    By the way, palmdroid, thank you for the images.
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    I have a feeling it may be March or April. They just recently upgraded the monopole site near Haskell, closest to the Valero convenience store. It had four antennas on each side, but it looks like that's no longer the case.

    I'm still waiting to see the nearest cell sites in my community get upgraded, and so far, I haven't seen any new antennas.

    I took a pic of this site earlier. The only thing I see different (that I do not remember seeing before) is what appears to be a microwave antenna (I guess that's what that is) on the lower left. Otherwise, that's it.

    By the way, palmdroid, thank you for the images.

    You're welcome, bud. I found out what they took off the tower a few days ago. We were one of the few towns in Arkansas with Open Range Communicatons WiMAX service. Clear is still on the tower. I don't know if anyone has heard of Open Range, but they were a company that got a huge grant from the gov't to promote broadband in rural/hard to service areas...Well it was obvious they did't know what they were doing since they put up service in a town that already has AT&T DSL everywhere, Ritter Cable in most areas, and outside of town I think they've got CenturyLink. We weren't the only town that was already in good shape that they put up service in, so I see why they went under. It's hard to sell 3 MBPS WiMAX to people that are paying 40/mo for 15 MBPS Cable.

    I'm itching to at least hear the next big LTE expansion plans. It really seems like they've slowed down the rollout. I was hearing new places all the time all last year. This year they haven't gotten off to an impressive start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by palmdroid1 View Post
    You're welcome, bud. I found out what they took off the tower a few days ago. We were one of the few towns in Arkansas with Open Range Communicatons WiMAX service. Clear is still on the tower. I don't know if anyone has heard of Open Range, but they were a company that got a huge grant from the gov't to promote broadband in rural/hard to service areas...Well it was obvious they did't know what they were doing since they put up service in a town that already has AT&T DSL everywhere, Ritter Cable in most areas, and outside of town I think they've got CenturyLink. We weren't the only town that was already in good shape that they put up service in, so I see why they went under. It's hard to sell 3 MBPS WiMAX to people that are paying 40/mo for 15 MBPS Cable.

    I'm itching to at least hear the next big LTE expansion plans. It really seems like they've slowed down the rollout. I was hearing new places all the time all last year. This year they haven't gotten off to an impressive start.
    I want to know what they are going to do next, also. I wasn't surprised that January was really quiet for LTE new markets and expansions. I want to think it will be more so this month, but I don't know. Maybe their announcements will be very small and not very noticeable, since most large cities have already launched LTE.
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    A Verizon employee told me that LTE mass roll out is complete, now they will just turn on what they see as "holes" in the service area as they get it up and running.

    The Verizon employee told me it will be probably a 2015 point before there whole 3G footprint is LTE but they are hearing rumors now that they are not even going to do the whole 3G footprint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by njt462 View Post
    A Verizon employee told me that LTE mass roll out is complete, now they will just turn on what they see as "holes" in the service area as they get it up and running.

    The Verizon employee told me it will be probably a 2015 point before there whole 3G footprint is LTE but they are hearing rumors now that they are not even going to do the whole 3G footprint.
    Verizon employees, for the most part, will say anything, and the information they give you ends up being false. I don't believe any of it. VZW has said numerous times that it would complete its LTE footprint by the end of 2013.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Radical Dude View Post
    Verizon employees, for the most part, will say anything, and the information they give you ends up being false. I don't believe any of it. VZW has said numerous times that it would complete its LTE footprint by the end of 2013.
    You're right. So far, I can't think of one true thing a Verizon employee has told me. And they have no idea what they're talking about. I said something about CDMA to a Verizon sales associate, and they had no idea what that meant. There are a few good one's. Probably more good than bad, but you remember the bad ones. And they seem to be the ones willing to tell you all the "news"

    Verizon has stated they will have 4G LTE coverage in as many or more places than they currently have 3G by the end of 2013.

    They've also stated in a couple of places (including on their customer forum on the VZ site) that if you have 3G today, you've got a good chance of having 4G by the end of 2012.

    2013 will be the year that they "fill in the holes".

    Based on everything I've found online and the little bit of information I've been given that's believable this is how the rollout has gone, and will go:

    Late 2010- Start off with LTE in the largest cities and major national airports

    2011- Rapidly expand LTE to all major airports not covered, major cities, and cover all (or as many as possible) major college towns

    2012- Connect the cities...I remember reading several articles stating that if you live within 30 miles of the interstate system, or major highways, you should have 4G this year. Covering the interstates and major highways will then cover most medium to mid (and even many small) towns in America

    2013- Fill in those holes. Upgrade the backwoods, boondocks areas that are still at that point only 3G.
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    Well it looks like Verizon has been doing some more tweaking on the 4g in my area (2 miles west of Alcoa Exchange in Benton/Salem). Past 5 days I have had consistent 4g signal, no switching to 3g then back to 4g as previously. 3 bars sig strength instead of 2. A little over 6 mbps down, 8 mbps up every day I have checked it. Modem still disconnects after 20- 40 min of inactivity, guess I can live with that
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghc37 View Post
    Well it looks like Verizon has been doing some more tweaking on the 4g in my area (2 miles west of Alcoa Exchange in Benton/Salem). Past 5 days I have had consistent 4g signal, no switching to 3g then back to 4g as previously. 3 bars sig strength instead of 2. A little over 6 mbps down, 8 mbps up every day I have checked it. Modem still disconnects after 20- 40 min of inactivity, guess I can live with that
    That's awesome! I wish they'd hurry up and get ours going in our little corner of Arkansas.

    I'm still eagerly waiting to see the next announcements, if any.

    Verizon's big launch days for things like phones, and new 4G areas are almost always on a Thursday, we've only got 2 Thursday's left in February, where's the list of new markets or areas being turned on?
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    http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/15...-on-a-new-one/

    The Little Rock market will expand by tomorrow. It doesn't specify what cities, though.
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