06-14-2010 09:00 AM
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  1. megagamer44's Avatar
    Whats the deal some people say 3g is capped at 5 gb but i used 7gb last month and i had no service cutoffs or extra fees so whats the deal
    05-08-2010 01:04 AM
  2. gvillager's Avatar
    There is a 5gb cap that is in the terms & conditions. But they only actually enforce it on aircards and tethering plans.
    05-08-2010 11:08 AM
  3. bigpetefox's Avatar
    There is a 5gb cap that is in the terms & conditions. But they only actually enforce it on aircards and tethering plans.
    I agree, it's mostly for aircards and tethering..
    05-08-2010 11:14 AM
  4. doogald's Avatar
    There is a 5gb cap that is in the terms & conditions. But they only actually enforce it on aircards and tethering plans.
    As far as I know, there is no cap for smartphone data plans - it is truly unlimited. There is for the MyFi and data modem mobile broadband plans (which say "5 GB" right at the selection page, rather than "unlimited"), but no cap for phone data plans.
    05-08-2010 11:46 AM
  5. NVR2ND's Avatar
    Everything that is listed in the sales guides show unlimited. So if they tried to charge you for something explain to them about false advertising, unless you are tethering, be it VZaccess, or pdanet, or one of the other ways to do it. that is a different story.
    05-08-2010 03:36 PM
  6. megagamer44's Avatar
    ok im teathering via pdanet and thats good right no cut offs?
    05-10-2010 08:47 PM
  7. GenericMessage's Avatar
    If ya'll would read VZW's TOS you'd realize that NOTHING is truly unlimited.


    There isn't a 5 gig "cap."
    But if you happen to reach 5+ gigs in a month they'll put you on a watch list. So now your account is being watched.

    If you continue to do so, Verizon will contact you and state that you are going over a predetermined amount of data, and to stop it. For they assume that this is the direct result of abusing their services.

    If you STILL continue to do so, they can limit your speeds, add a cap, or even cancel your services and demand your early termination fee. As well as possible court issues over stealing from them.



    So you want the honest truth? Don't over-do it. If you think you're doing something data wise you shouldn't: DON'T! Download at your own risk. But just using your phone in the way it was intended and paid for, you will probably NEVER wind up on their watch list.
    05-10-2010 09:30 PM
  8. nox's Avatar
    Actually there is. They may not do anything the first time, but I think if keeps happening (you keep going over) then they charge you extra and crap like that.
    05-10-2010 09:30 PM
  9. nox's Avatar
    If ya'll would read VZW's TOS you'd realize that NOTHING is truly unlimited.


    Their isn't a 5 gig "cap."
    But if you happen to reach 5+ gigs in a month they'll put you on a watch list. So now your account is being watched.

    If you continue to do so, Verizon will contact you and state that you are going over a predetermined amount of data, and to stop it. For they assume that this is the direct result of abusing their services.

    If you STILL continue to do so, they can limit your speeds, add a cap, or even cancel your services and demand your early termination fee. As well as possible court issues over stealing from them.



    So you want the honest truth? Don't over-do it. If you think you're doing something data wise you shouldn't: DON'T! Download at your own risk. But just using your phone in the way it was intended and paid for, you will probably NEVER wind up on their watch list.
    Beat me to it by seconds!
    05-10-2010 09:32 PM
  10. GenericMessage's Avatar
    Beat me to it by seconds!
    You know how I do
    05-10-2010 09:37 PM
  11. nox's Avatar
    You know how I do ;)
    Yea well...my answer was short and simple :p
    05-11-2010 01:36 AM
  12. doogald's Avatar
    Actually there is. They may not do anything the first time, but I think if keeps happening (you keep going over) then they charge you extra and crap like that.
    Again, you are both not completely correct. It may be that overusage raises a flag, but there is nothing in terms of service that mentions any sort of data usage byte limit. You are limited to specific activities, such as email, web browsing, gaming, audio, video, and VOIP; you are prohibited from running any sort of server; they reserve the right to protect their network and limit your access if you do violate the terms by using non-allowed protocols. However, they do not mention in their TOS that you will be flagged for overuse.

    I would strongly suggest, however, that anybody who uses more than 5 GB of data per month not use any sort of tethering app if you are worried about being shut off, because that is something that is not allowed by TOS.

    Here are the TOS: Terms & Conditions
    05-11-2010 08:03 AM
  13. gvillager's Avatar
    I stand corrected. About a year ago there was a 5gb cap written into the terms and conditions. It's good to see that its been updated with no cap.
    Again, you are both not completely correct. It may be that overusage raises a flag, but there is nothing in terms of service that mentions any sort of data usage byte limit. You are limited to specific activities, such as email, web browsing, gaming, audio, video, and VOIP; you are prohibited from running any sort of server; they reserve the right to protect their network and limit your access if you do violate the terms by using non-allowed protocols. However, they do not mention in their TOS that you will be flagged for overuse.

    I would strongly suggest, however, that anybody who uses more than 5 GB of data per month not use any sort of tethering app if you are worried about being shut off, because that is something that is not allowed by TOS.

    Here are the TOS: Terms & Conditions
    05-11-2010 08:32 AM
  14. GenericMessage's Avatar
    Again, you are both not completely correct. It may be that overusage raises a flag, but there is nothing in terms of service that mentions any sort of data usage byte limit. You are limited to specific activities, such as email, web browsing, gaming, audio, video, and VOIP; you are prohibited from running any sort of server; they reserve the right to protect their network and limit your access if you do violate the terms by using non-allowed protocols. However, they do not mention in their TOS that you will be flagged for overuse.

    I would strongly suggest, however, that anybody who uses more than 5 GB of data per month not use any sort of tethering app if you are worried about being shut off, because that is something that is not allowed by TOS.

    Here are the TOS: Terms & Conditions
    Actually I am completely correct thank-you very much

    And you will be flagged for over-use. If you read it:


    "The Data Plans or Features are for individual use only and you may not offer them for resale. We further reserve the right to take measures to protect our network and other users from harm, compromised capacity or degradation in performance. These measures may impact your service, and we reserve the right to deny, modify or terminate service, with or without notice, to anyone we believe is using Data Plans or Features in a manner that adversely impacts our network. We may monitor you compliance, or the compliance of other subscribers, with these terms and conditions, but we will not monitor the content of your communications except as otherwise expressly permitted or required by law"


    So you don't even have to over-use it to be flagged or watched. But trust me, if you go over 5 gigs every month, they'll start watching you, and warn you, and terminate your service with little or no warning. They have that ability
    05-11-2010 10:57 AM
  15. nox's Avatar
    Actually I am completely correct thank-you very much

    And you will be flagged for over-use. If you read it:


    "The Data Plans or Features are for individual use only and you may not offer them for resale. We further reserve the right to take measures to protect our network and other users from harm, compromised capacity or degradation in performance. These measures may impact your service, and we reserve the right to deny, modify or terminate service, with or without notice, to anyone we believe is using Data Plans or Features in a manner that adversely impacts our network. We may monitor you compliance, or the compliance of other subscribers, with these terms and conditions, but we will not monitor the content of your communications except as otherwise expressly permitted or required by law"


    So you don't even have to over-use it to be flagged or watched. But trust me, if you go over 5 gigs every month, they'll start watching you, and warn you, and terminate your service with little or no warning. They have that ability
    Dammit you beat me to it again. I swear I had that part already copied haha.

    Yea, if you wanna test it out, go over 5gb every month and see how it goes for you. Oh, and dont worry, you don't have to tether in order to go over.
    05-11-2010 11:11 AM
  16. rb68's Avatar
    From the TOS:

    Unlimited Smartphone and BlackBerry Plans and Features
    These Wireless Email plans and features cannot be used: (1) for access to the Internet, intranets or other data networks except as the device’s native applications and capabilities permit, unless you subscribe to Mobile Broadband Connect; or (2) for any applications that tether your device to laptops or personal computers other than for use of the Wireless Sync or the BlackBerry solution, unless you subscribe to Mobile Broadband Connect.


    So where is the 5GB cap that doesn't exist?
    05-11-2010 11:49 AM
  17. nox's Avatar
    From the TOS:

    Unlimited Smartphone and BlackBerry Plans and Features
    These Wireless Email plans and features cannot be used: (1) for access to the Internet, intranets or other data networks except as the devices native applications and capabilities permit, unless you subscribe to Mobile Broadband Connect; or (2) for any applications that tether your device to laptops or personal computers other than for use of the Wireless Sync or the BlackBerry solution, unless you subscribe to Mobile Broadband Connect.


    So where is the 5GB cap that doesn't exist?
    Like I said, go ahead and test it out yourself and post back your results
    05-11-2010 11:56 AM
  18. GenericMessage's Avatar
    From the TOS:

    Unlimited Smartphone and BlackBerry Plans and Features
    These Wireless Email plans and features cannot be used: (1) for access to the Internet, intranets or other data networks except as the devices native applications and capabilities permit, unless you subscribe to Mobile Broadband Connect; or (2) for any applications that tether your device to laptops or personal computers other than for use of the Wireless Sync or the BlackBerry solution, unless you subscribe to Mobile Broadband Connect.


    So where is the 5GB cap that doesn't exist?
    Just because VZW doesn't hold your hand and spell it out for you doesn't mean it isn't there.


    But go ahead! Try to go over, and you'll have your account permanently terminated and possible criminal action taken against you.
    05-11-2010 12:05 PM
  19. doogald's Avatar
    I'd love to see somebody show me someone whose smartphone (not broadband) data plan was terminated, or even received this warning, for this very reason since they went unlimited last year.
    05-11-2010 01:52 PM
  20. GenericMessage's Avatar
    I'd love to see somebody show me someone whose smartphone (not broadband) data plan was terminated, or even received this warning, for this very reason since they went unlimited last year.
    I guess you can argue with us until you're blue in the face, but we speak the truth.
    05-11-2010 04:19 PM
  21. doogald's Avatar
    Hmm, you seem to be arguing as much. A link from this site, somebody who called Verizon about it: http://forum.androidcentral.com/carr...html#post11566

    Some info from a Verizon employee here, which also includes a person who says her child used 7 GB of data viewing YouTube without a charge: Is data plan truly unlimited? - Verizon | Forums and Blogs - Verizon Community (on the second page.)

    All anecdotal, but I have searched but never found a customer who was not tethering who was charged extra for over 5 GB on a smartphone within the US. I think it would be awfully hard to use over 5 GB in a month myself, and I think that if you use something like 50 GB you may get a phone call, but if you are using 7 GB, or 10 GB, and you are not tethering or using a P2P network, I wouldn't sweat it.
    05-11-2010 05:31 PM
  22. GivenToFly's Avatar
    I hit 7 GB last month, and 5.8 the month before because I stream music an hour each way to work, then more streaming during the day if I'm out at an on-site job. I use remote desktop, and that eats a fair bit of data. And I use the TV.com app, and youtube quite a bit. (i get bored quickly) I received no such letter or warnings or anything. If I did, I would argue that I am not abusing the network, I am using apps freely available to everyone on an android phone. I'm not tethering, or doing anything nefarious.

    They can tell what you are doing, and if you are not breaking any rules, or using like 20GB per month, you don't have anything to worry about.
    05-12-2010 09:26 PM
  23. megagamer44's Avatar
    But ive almost went over before i got pdanet sooo what do i doo i dont have internet at home and i. Need to game on battlefield 2 online
    05-12-2010 09:54 PM
  24. takeshi's Avatar
    Seems to me that this "truth" mentioned in this thread could be easily supported by some links...
    05-13-2010 10:41 AM
  25. GenericMessage's Avatar
    But ive almost went over before i got pdanet sooo what do i doo i dont have internet at home and i. Need to game on battlefield 2 online
    Lol, with the whopping .768 as a upload speed, you aren't going to do ANY gaming with tethering
    05-13-2010 10:49 AM
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