[paul-c]

This confuses me. Why can't you add data to your current family plan for the other lines? This is my situation - 1 smartphone + 4 feature phones. I plan on upgrading two of them and staying on my current voice/text family plan. There's nothing anywhere that says I can't do that now, unless you think it's going to change on 6/28?

What do you think is the latest and greatest feature phone? My family is all still on LG Dares because the new feature phones have been so lousy.

I can add data for the other lines on the account, but they have no interest in it, and their upgrades aren't due till way after the 28th. When the time comes they can still upgrade to another feature phone and the plan will be left alone because they don't want data. Beyond that, after the 28th I'm not sure if people upgrading to smartphones have to go with data share, or if it's just an option at this point. Oh, and my remark about the latest and greatest in feature phones was sarcastic. Choices are really thin now, but out of everything I like that Casio G'zOne Ravine 2. It's pretty awesome for being a feature phone. Someone on my plan has it and thinks it's great.

[Ry]

Its just annoying how they didn't make that clear in their annoucement, nor on their calculator. If you use the calculator, it doesn't mention anything about single user plans. I wouldn't be surprised if in the future, Verzion just puts everyone on it.

According to the @VZWSupport twitter account, the individual plans will still be available.



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[Cares]

Uh oh. It looks like the Nationwide plans are going away, according to the @VZWSupport twitter account.



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Looks like there's confusion between VZW support themselves. Conflicting information.

Either way, from what I know and can confirm is that Share Everything is only an option and not the only way moving forward. All individual and family plans currently available will still be available after June 28th to new and existing customers. Call 611 and speak to supervisors to confirm. I've spoken with 5 supervisors already.

[Ry]

Looks like there's confusion between VZW support themselves. Conflicting information.

Either way, from what I know and can confirm is that Share Everything is only an option and not the only way moving forward. All individual and family plans currently available will still be available after June 28th to new and existing customers. Call 611 and speak to supervisors to confirm. I've spoken with 5 supervisors already.

Yup. Just edited my post.

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[Devinator]

Call 611 and speak to supervisors to confirm. I've spoken with 5 supervisors already.

Five just on this topic? Man, you are thorough.

[Cares]

Five just on this topic? Man, you are thorough.

I have to know if I can upgrade a phone or not ... or if I should pursue another carrier.

[Devinator]

I have to know if I can upgrade a phone or not ... or if I should pursue another carrier.

Gotcha. I'm with ya, I'd do the same. Good for you.

[kulkaholic]

Looks like there's confusion between VZW support themselves. Conflicting information.

Either way, from what I know and can confirm is that Share Everything is only an option and not the only way moving forward. All individual and family plans currently available will still be available after June 28th to new and existing customers. Call 611 and speak to supervisors to confirm. I've spoken with 5 supervisors already.

I hope you have been given true info.


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[Synycalwon]

These new shared data plans are optional!

See bottom of this page (directly from Verizon):

"• I am a current Verizon Wireless customer, do I have to change my plan to a Share Everything Plan?

While you're not required to change to a Share Everything Plan you may want to check out the benefits of new plans. If you decide to change to a Share Everything Plan, you can do so without a fee or having to extend your contract term. To find out which plan may work for you visit

• I have an unlimited data plan on my account. Do I need to change it?

You're not required to move to Share Everything but if you do, unlimited data will not be retained on your line. As a Verizon Wireless customer you have choices when you upgrade at discounted pricing. You can choose from a standalone data package starting at $30 for 2GB or a Share Everything Plan. If keeping unlimited is important to you, you can choose to upgrade and pay full retail price for the phone."

[ToddL]

For anyone using Good Messaging for work emails: There's also a new $15 Good usage fee per month. This moves be back from saving money under this program to break even. sigh.

[tmettler5]

I think that this would be a good idea if it wasn't forced on you. Some people could save money on this plan but for those of us that are power users. We are just SOL.

That's the point. This does nothing at all to soccer-mom phone user...but I think it VZW's of sticking it to the power users but mainly I think they are after the root users who tether stuff to their phones. I'm rooted, and occasionally tether (very rarely--I think I have used the tether 3 times ever, for about 10 minutes each.) but I can see how some folks who are burning through tons of data a month are kind of forcing the carriers to cover their losses that they can't enforce individually.

the whole idea of sharing a gig, and being able to use that as a mobile hotspot is ridiculous.

It would be really easy for the other carriers to totally undersell VZ and make up any losses in sheer volume of customers, but unfortunately, I think the wireless communication industry is all a big monopoly in collusion with each other. Now that VZ set a precedent, the other carriers will just sit back and see how the customer base takes it. Odds are, outside of people on forums like this, your average customer has no idea what any of this means and what the data usage amounts to and what the significance of it is. So there will not be the public outrage like there was with the "courtesy fee" which is easy to understand. Trying to figure out the new pricing plans and what they mean is like trying to do algebra with only a 2nd grade math level. There are so many formulas and scenarios, that it makes the head spin to try to figure out what your monthly bill will be and compare options of shared versus individual/tiered. VZ is counting on that.

I would also be willing to bet that informed sellers on CL and Ebay will realize the goldmine they have with off-contract phones, and may be able to charge almost whatever they want to people who want to keep their plans as-is. If I had the means, I would be buying as many VZ smartphones as I could and charge a ransom for them on CL, etc.

The other issue here is that I don't see anything about roll-over...if you go over your data usage, you bet you will get charged, but if you are under, your unused data doesn't rollover to next month. If I pay for 5GB, and only use 2, they are getting 3GB worth of my money for free. You bought it, you should be able to keep it.

Grr.

[Chex313]

I can see this coming to At&t next. I started last year to buy my phones outright just so I could jump ship...looks like VZ isn't an option now.
So the carriers use our airwaves to make billions in profits each quarter. Every add promotes the speed of the network, but they don't want us to actually use it...
Its time to petition the Gov. To step in. VZ and At&t are monopolies and need to be regulated. $10 a gig is more then enough for them to make a profit.
Any one with writing skills want to write a petition we can all sign?

[HawaiiD]

In case people are confused. After the 28th if you want a subsidized phone...you will be forced into a capped plan. If you want to keep your unlimited plan, you must pay full retail price if you want to buy a phone from Verizon.

Now if say there was a family with
4 iPhones? And they all wanted to keep their unlimited data?
That be almost 3000 dollars after taxes, etc to upgrade?

[JHBThree]

These new shared data plans are optional!

See bottom of this page (directly from Verizon):

"• I am a current Verizon Wireless customer, do I have to change my plan to a Share Everything Plan?

While you're not required to change to a Share Everything Plan you may want to check out the benefits of new plans. If you decide to change to a Share Everything Plan, you can do so without a fee or having to extend your contract term. To find out which plan may work for you visit

• I have an unlimited data plan on my account. Do I need to change it?

You're not required to move to Share Everything but if you do, unlimited data will not be retained on your line. As a Verizon Wireless customer you have choices when you upgrade at discounted pricing. You can choose from a standalone data package starting at $30 for 2GB or a Share Everything Plan. If keeping unlimited is important to you, you can choose to upgrade and pay full retail price for the phone."

So if you have a single line, the tiers are the same as before. That's a little better (at least for us single people) at least.

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[JHBThree]

I can see this coming to At&t next. I started last year to buy my phones outright just so I could jump ship...looks like VZ isn't an option now.
So the carriers use our airwaves to make billions in profits each quarter. Every add promotes the speed of the network, but they don't want us to actually use it...
Its time to petition the Gov. To step in. VZ and At&t are monopolies and need to be regulated. $10 a gig is more then enough for them to make a profit.
Any one with writing skills want to write a petition we can all sign?

Waste of time. The FCC fully supports what Verizon and att are doing.

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[droidlove11]

So for those of you who want to keep unlimited and also get a subsidized phone, how does this sound.

1. Add a line right now to your family share plan with basic phone
2. You can save that for a rainy day and do an upgrade to say a Razr HD or whatever comes out
3. You can ESN change back to your original customer owned equipment (basic phone) on the spare line
4. Technically the policy is buying at full retail or providing your own phone to activate on your functional line will keep the unlimited.
5. You bought a Razr HD for the subsidy and still got to keep unlimted. (work the system)
6. Only cost is an extra 10 bucks but I recommend adding the extra line now because if you wait until after the 28th, I dont believe you can add lines to existing family share plans that exist today. Adding lines will also force you into one of the new plans.

SN: I recognize that the plans for some seem high, others it seems to be almost the same as they have, and for a few it may be cheaper. We just have to come to terms with one thing. You have fullfilled your contract with VZW on an unlimited plan. Verizon reserves the right to set the price and conditions of giving you another subsidy for a two year renewal. If they dont want to extend your unlimited plan and give you a subsidy, that's within their rights. We just need to deal with it because everyone looking to complain, boycott, jump ship, lobby congress, etc, it wont make a bit of difference.

[droidlove11]

So all single plans will stay the same?

Single line plans will be completely different as well. The plans that you see where it says step one pick how many devices and step 2 pick how much data also applies to just 1 line. This is like the ICS of plans as it is suppose to be one standard for both single and shared plans. Of course if you are already on a single plan thats one thing but switching over to VZW will require that one line to have the same plan selections as a FSP

[JHBThree]

Single line plans will be completely different as well. The plans that you see where it says step one pick how many devices and step 2 pick how much data also applies to just 1 line. This is like the ICS of plans as it is suppose to be one standard for both single and shared plans. Of course if you are already on a single plan thats one thing but switching over to VZW will require that one line to have the same plan selections as a FSP

But Verizon's own website for the new plans says that 'you can choose from a stand alone data package starting at $30 for 2GB or a share everything plan'. From their own website, it sounds like the single line plans aren't going anywhere.

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[mhans311]

So for those of you who want to keep unlimited and also get a subsidized phone, how does this sound.

1. Add a line right now to your family share plan with basic phone
2. You can save that for a rainy day and do an upgrade to say a Razr HD or whatever comes out
3. You can ESN change back to your original customer owned equipment (basic phone) on the spare line
4. Technically the policy is buying at full retail or providing your own phone to activate on your functional line will keep the unlimited.
5. You bought a Razr HD for the subsidy and still got to keep unlimted. (work the system)
6. Only cost is an extra 10 bucks but I recommend adding the extra line now because if you wait until after the 28th, I dont believe you can add lines to existing family share plans that exist today. Adding lines will also force you into one of the new plans.

The problem is that when you upgrade that line they will put you on the new share plans anyway. After the 28th you won't be able to upgrade and keep unlimited.

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[droidlove11]

The problem is that when you upgrade that line they will put you on the new share plans anyway. After the 28th you won't be able to upgrade and keep unlimited.

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i trying to explain this the best I can. If you can bring in your own equipment and activate to keep unlimited, this should work perfectly. You agree to two years on the spare line. You spend an hour with that new smartphone on there and take it off. For that quick second that its on the spare line, u wont be forced into the share everything pkg, just need to pick a 2GB data plan to attach to that line. Once thats done, you can activate that new Smartphone on your real line and "voila", u still have unlimited (provided u have an unlimited SP pkg now)

[droidlove11]

But Verizon's own website for the new plans says that 'you can choose from a stand alone data package starting at $30 for 2GB or a share everything plan'. From their own website, it sounds like the single line plans aren't going anywhere.

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If you have any single line plan right now: yes you can keep the plan but not the unlimited data if you go subsidized.

If you dont have service or want to add a single line: You will be selecting from the new plans as single line plans will no longer exist for new activations.

If you have TMo or Sprint or something and want service it would look like this. SP=40 bucks + 10GBs of data=100 bucks. Your plan will be 140 monthly and it gives u unl talk/text/10gb. Say you want a tablet on top to share that with, 150 (extra 10 to share the data)

[cbaker89]

Unless I am totally missing something, I don't think it is that bad, we currently have 2 smartphones, and 2 "dumb phones". The kids with the basic phones want to have a smartphone soon anyway. There is no way all 4 of us would use 10 gb a month. According to Verizon's calculator at 10gb () comes to $260.00 per month. I don't think that is to terrible.

[JHBThree]

If you have any single line plan right now: yes you can keep the plan but not the unlimited data if you go subsidized.

If you dont have service or want to add a single line: You will be selecting from the new plans as single line plans will no longer exist for new activations.

If you have TMo or Sprint or something and want service it would look like this. SP=40 bucks + 10GBs of data=100 bucks. Your plan will be 140 monthly and it gives u unl talk/text/10gb. Say you want a tablet on top to share that with, 150 (extra 10 to share the data)

Except that's not true. Read Verizon's website for the share plans. It says specifically that single line plans aren't going anywhere.

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[Ry]

Looks like there's confusion between VZW support themselves. Conflicting information.

Either way, from what I know and can confirm is that Share Everything is only an option and not the only way moving forward. All individual and family plans currently available will still be available after June 28th to new and existing customers. Call 611 and speak to supervisors to confirm. I've spoken with 5 supervisors already.

Looks like there's still confusion on the @VZWSupport twitter account.

[kulkaholic]

Except that's not true. Read Verizon's website for the share plans. It says specifically that single line plans aren't going anywhere.

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That's what they say. But when they start realizing that smart phones are crack to some people and they can do whatever they want they will butcher the 2GB plans.