Vzw hates that you have unlimited data

**kirksucks** · 07-07-2012, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by Ry

I'm assuming you both stay under 2GB. As existing customers, you have the option to go to tiered data, not Share Everything.

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I get to at least 3 each month by myself. So 4gig plan would be cutting it close. I was trying to explain this to the vzw guy and his answer was "this is just phase one, we'll see what happens"
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**eshropshire** · 07-07-2012, 06:03 PM

These plans are really designed to look ok to those who had high minutes and unlimited text. If you were like me who had one of the lowest minute plans on our family account and did not use it much then the new share everything is net great as currently constituted.

I personally would love a share everything plan for what I am currently paying for each of our 4GB smart phones and tablet. Between all of our devices we currently have 16 GB. But the highest share everything stops at 10GB?!? I don't get this at all. I know you can buy additional GB, but the plan should continue up to at least 14GB.

Personally I will wait and see if Verizon makes any changes to the plan in the next few months. If not when our family plan is up in about 16 months we will shop around. I have no loyalty to any phone company I have been with 3 different companies several times. Very easy to switch - if you keep all your lines close to the same renewal date. All of ours renew on the same day. Right when Amazon will do their thanksgiving $.01 deals for new lines - so probably will be off to a new company unless Verizon gives me a reason to stay.

**kritterbell** · 07-10-2012, 12:39 AM

I had a talk with Verizon about why they are getting rid of unlimited and this is what they said... now this does make a lot of sense.. There are some users that was hoarding the unlimited. In ways that was really way out there. People like this was making it to were it was cluddering up the towers and all of us normal people that are not GB hoarders was not getting the quality service we deserved. I have changed from the unlimited to shared and with 3 Smartphones I am saving 80-100 a month... Some people this is a blessing. Depends on if you save money. With Economy every little bit helps.:thumbup:

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**mesocyclonic** · 07-10-2012, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by kritterbell

I had a talk with Verizon about why they are getting rid of unlimited and this is what they said... now this does make a lot of sense.. There are some users that was hoarding the unlimited. In ways that was really way out there. People like this was making it to were it was cluddering up the towers and all of us normal people that are not GB hoarders was not getting the quality service we deserved. I have changed from the unlimited to shared and with 3 Smartphones I am saving 80-100 a month... Some people this is a blessing. Depends on if you save money. With Economy every little bit helps.:thumbup:

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There's certainly some truth to that explanation. However, I'd rather VZW just handle it with their current throttling policy (for 3G only now) wherein they throttle those largest users when on 3G but only when the tower that the large user is on is congested. Having them slowly push unlimited users off their plans is annoying though; I'd imagine we'll see additional pushes to get unlimited users to tiered/shared data plans in the future.

Glad to hear someone is saving money with the new plans though!

**Droid3r** · 07-10-2012, 02:46 PM

How gullible aRe you?

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**kirksucks** · 07-10-2012, 03:55 PM

So they consider over 3 gigs excessive and hoarding data?

The pricing of tiers does not reflect that excuse.

Throttle my $30 plan at 5 and I'd think I would be ok. But don't make me share that with my family.

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**rustypixel** · 07-11-2012, 08:03 AM

Called CS last evening just to get an average of my data usage and to find out what my highest usage was. The CS rep was fairly persistent about having me give up my unlimited for one of the new plans. While she wasn't pushy, she was definitely wanting me to drink the Kool-Aid and couldn't stop talking about how great the new plans are.

**eshropshire** · 07-11-2012, 11:44 AM

Would you prefer unlimited like AT&T and T-Mobile, once you hit your limit you get to drink through a very small straw? I think this will probably be happening anyway for congested towers sometime early next year.

Some people like the new plans - I have a friend who is moving to Verizon from his AT&T unlimited plan because he is tired of being throttled. He does not mind paying for the data. He has mapped out both plans and the new Verizon plans work best for what he needs.

**Malgus** · 07-11-2012, 04:05 PM

Verizon hates us period

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**mail4diop** · 07-12-2012, 05:53 AM

Actually what happened was two changes were trying to take place at the same time which the system will not allow. All the rep had to do was cancel the future dated plan change, order your replacement, and then place the future dated order plan back.

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**drummerman2008** · 07-12-2012, 03:41 PM

This is why I'm decideing between sprint and tmobile

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**Jude526** · 07-18-2012, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by Droid3r

How gullible aRe you?

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It happens to be partially true.....no one is being gullible. There are ppl hording the data

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**aokusman1** · 07-22-2012, 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by 3rdpig

Corporations don't "hate". They may be pressing their employees to move people out of unlimited data plans, but they're not forcing anyone out. And they probably never will. What they'll do when the time comes is just refuse to renew unlimited contracts. You'll either accept one of the new contracts or you'll find a new carrier.

I wish we could all get past the "evil corporation" BS. It's a business decision, nothing more and nothing less. Emotions like "hate" are all on our side. All the vitriol, all the name calling, it's all coming from the consumer, not from the corporation.

A lot of business decisions are evil.

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**saultnutz** · 07-28-2012, 12:31 PM

"The problem with the New shared data plans is that they may be fine for a single person, maybe a couple, but add in teenagers that will burn thru data, especially once all phones are on 4g, and it will get expensive very quickly."

Yes, you are right, it will get expensive. Do you know why? BECAUSE WIRELESS DATA IS AN EXPENSIVE, PREMIUM PRODUCT!!! Why would you ever expect it to be cheap?

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Ry · 07-28-2012, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by saultnutz

Yes, you are right, it will get expensive. Do you know why? BECAUSE WIRELESS DATA IS AN EXPENSIVE, PREMIUM PRODUCT!!! Why would you ever expect it to be cheap?

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Seriously. Suppy/Demand. Not sure why people don't understand this.

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**saultnutz** · 07-28-2012, 12:44 PM

Another thing....don't tell anyone......but it is possible to live without a smartphone.....shhhhhhhh....

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**huffwin** · 07-28-2012, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by saultnutz

Another thing....don't tell anyone......but it is possible to live without a smartphone.....shhhhhhhh....

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not in this day and age my friend.....

**Cigar-Junkie** · 07-28-2012, 04:24 PM

I think the data hoarders are fairly easy to spot but it also places Verizon wireless in the position of handing out punishment. Factor in the amount of people that can tether for free, I think it is easier for them to just track data. I have 5 phones and don't use a lot of data but now want to add some tethering and a jetpak . It will be a net savings for me but I must admit I have a lot of minutes on my plan. Like it or not I think all the carriers will move to this style of pricing, who knows maybe they will even get into a price war one day.

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**chevota84** · 07-28-2012, 04:49 PM

Tried to upgrade last night and they tried to roll me over into the 2gb data plan, says "your unlimited plan is no longer offered so we are applying the default 2gb plan". So I bought an s3 out of contract and am now going to become the biggest data hog they can imagine. I use 5-7gb/month so it would have cost me $35+/month more. If anybody else had decent service around here, I would have dropped them.

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**timato** · 07-28-2012, 05:25 PM

Not sure how being a data hog affects anyone else. I have never noticed a drop in quality service due to someone else's excessive use. It's obviously just a new way to make more money off of their customers, not them trying to offer better service.

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**metz65** · 07-28-2012, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by saultnutz

Another thing....don't tell anyone......but it is possible to live without a smartphone.....shhhhhhhh....

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You must be mistaken. I'm pretty sure that a constitutional amendment was passed and now everybody is entitled to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness and a smart phone with a pay what you want plan.

I don't care what kind of phone you have, that's not how I judge someone's worth or intelligence.

**piizzadude** · 07-28-2012, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by zrxoa1

The problem with the New shared data plans is that they may be fine for a single person, maybe a couple, but add in teenagers that will burn thru data, especially once all phones are on 4g, and it will get expensive very quickly.

I currently have 5 phoned on my account, 3 dumb phones with data blocked and 2 smart phones with unlimited data. Add in unlimited texting and 1400 minutes and my bill, with employee discounts, is $201/month.

New plan would be $170 PLUS data package. My wife is fine with 2gb, but I run around 6gb a month. You do the math....

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This is kinda my situation only all five phones are smartphones. When sprint gets lte here in september, off I and my lines go. I also save 75 bucks a month

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**LegalAmerican** · 07-28-2012, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by timato

Not sure how being a data hog affects anyone else. I have never noticed a drop in quality service due to someone else's excessive use. It's obviously just a new way to make more money off of their customers, not them trying to offer better service.

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The only reason it affects other people is because Verizon watches the use and they want to cripple hogs. They will continue to find ways to attempt this, and that screws the lighter users. People blame the hogs, but ultimately it's Verizon being morons

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**piizzadude** · 07-28-2012, 05:49 PM

They won't blink at 5-7 gig a month

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**zrxoa1** · 07-28-2012, 06:24 PM

I don't recall anyone asking it to be cheap, but the dollar amounts for shared data are ridiculous.

No need to be so hateful and condescending either.

Oops, that was a reply to ealier post....neglected to quote properly, sorry!!

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