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    Quote Originally Posted by rkortes View Post
    I must not be understanding the "Shared Everything" plan correctly. From what I've read it's virtually impossible to save....

    Current plan: 2 unlimited plans @ $30 each = $60 bucks.

    Shared plan: 2 data plans @ $40 each (that may be where I'm wrong) plus data charges over 2 gigs = around $80 to $100 bucks.

    My wife and I personally use just over 2 gigs per month each on just our phones.

    Am I missing something??
    Yes you are missing something. The data its self maybe more expensive but you need to look at the entire plan. Currently if I were to get the plan for me and my wife at 4 gbs, it would be $150 a month for the two of us (before taxes) but that also includes unlimited calling and texting. I'm on the cheapest calling and family plan with only 1000 texts for my wife and none for me. We pay around $150 after taxes. If we had a higher minutes calling plan or texting then the shared data plans would actually save use money as the unlimited plans with more minutes/texting are more money, so it is possible to save.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry View Post
    Probably justified it by seeing that average use was around 2GB.
    At least that's the average use Verizon claims. If they wanted to be fair they would go slightly above average at 4 GB but they don't. Its all about overage charges. That's the money maker right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse2K View Post
    At least that's the average use Verizon claims. If they wanted to be fair they would go slightly above average at 4 GB but they don't. Its all about overage charges. That's the money maker right there.

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    actually, ANY future dated order will prevent the rep from issuing any currentdated orders untill the pending order is completed.

    what a knowledgable rep could have seen to do was to cancel the future dated order, place the requested current dated order, refreshed, and then placed the future dated order once again. some reps lack the ability to do this because they were "never told" to...

    the only caveat to this is that there are some orders that can only be placed successfully by reps with id or authorization ...tier I reps may have an adjustment level of say 25.00 and anything above that amount needs managerial approval while tier II reps may have an adjustment level of 250.00 before needing managerial approval.Tier II reps are not going to be exposed to as many needs to issue bill credits, but when they do, they tend to be larger.

    I know that SFO orders (Single Feature Orders) are not the same as Bill Credits, i was just using the images i did as EXAMPLES.

    such is the nature of corporate logic, and it seems to work too,for many companies manage to make a profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnriii View Post
    oh yeah. and I'm fighting it to the death. at a minimum, I'm keeping my last 12 months of unlimited data. but then....decision time. do I keep the flagship of Verizon 4G LTE??? probably not. or do I try ebay for an 'verizon approved' phone, and hopefully keep my unlimited data??? OR, do I pay $500-600 full price for two new phones??? definately not. damn you, verizon.
    I'm in the same boat.

    Can anybody recommend a good source for refurbished phones? Other than eBay preferably as I haven't had good luck with eBay electronics.

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    I wouldn't take a refurb even if it was the only phone left in the world. I can't speak for them in general, but I've yet to have a good one. I've tried multiple brands and they all had issues with them. Sometimes even worse than the problem on the phone I was turning in to exchange (all warranty exchanges for factory refurbs btw). So in my experience and opinion, a refurb isn't worth the risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooncatt View Post
    I wouldn't take a refurb even if it was the only phone left in the world. I can't speak for them in general, but I've yet to have a good one. I've tried multiple brands and they all had issues with them. Sometimes even worse than the problem on the phone I was turning in to exchange (all warranty exchanges for factory refurbs btw). So in my experience and opinion, a refurb isn't worth the risk.
    I'm not thrilled about refurbished phones either, but I don't want to drop $650 a piece for 2 smart phones to keep my unlimited data. I use too much data (14-22gig a month) to go to their new plan. My wife uses less data less than 2 gig usually.

    This whole deal with the unlimited data and having to pay full retail price for phones ticks me off. It also concerns me, what if we drop $1300 on 2 new smart phones and Verizon drops us. What then?

    I'm strongly considering switching back to sprint. I would like to keep Verizon as they have a little bit better coverage, but even with my current plan I will save quite a bit switching to sprint. I may switch to sprint for the principal of it.

    Also possibly considering switching to ATT again as they at least have s 20 gig share plan. Not sure if I'm blacklisted at ATT as they dropped me in the middle if the night because I complained about service daily after the merger.


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    I'm not thrilled about refurbished phones either, but I don't want to drop $650 a piece for 2 smart phones to keep my unlimited data. I use too much data (14-22gig a month) to go to their new plan. My wife uses less data less than 2 gig usually.

    This whole deal with the unlimited data and having to pay full retail price for phones ticks me off. It also concerns me, what if we drop $1300 on 2 new smart phones and Verizon drops us. What then?

    I'm strongly considering switching back to sprint. I would like to keep Verizon as they have a little bit better coverage, but even with my current plan I will save quite a bit switching to sprint. I may switch to sprint for the principal of it.

    Also possibly considering switching to ATT again as they at least have s 20 gig share plan. Not sure if I'm blacklisted at ATT as they dropped me in the middle if the night because I complained about service daily after the merger.


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    If your wife uses less that 2gb of data then she can get the subsidy and move to a tiered plan. Therefore you would only need to buy one full priced or pre owned phone. Just because she moves from unlimited does not mean you have to.

    Secondly... Verizon offers up to 20gb shared plans too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DolphinDroid View Post
    First off.. If your wife uses less that 2gb of data then she can get the subsidy and move to a tiered plan. Therefore you would only need to buy one full priced or pre owned phone. Just because she moves from unlimited does not mean you have to.

    Secondly... Verizon offers up to 20gb shared plans too.

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    The largest plan I see with Verizon is 10gb with the option to add 2gb for $10, and a $15 per gb overage.

    I called Verizon on Tuesday and they were almost no help. The rep I talked to didn't seem to know anymore than I did. How can she switch and not me if we are on a family plan? Would we both move to individual plans? Not sure if it would save us any money other than getting a discounted phone.

    I may have to go into a corporate store and talk with someone that can go through the options with me. The people on the phobe are simply no help.

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    There is a 20gb share plan its $150.00 they don't advertise it but its available

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    Moosc has it correct about the 20gb plan. I would pay outright before spending $150 a month on data.

    My wife and I are on a family plan. I just got the RAZR M and moved to the 2gb data while my wife still has unlimited. Only the line using the upgrade has to give up the unlimited data on a family plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moosc View Post
    There is a 20gb share plan its $150.00 they don't advertise it but its available

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    Thanks I may have to check into that. I think we could do 20gb. My data will probably go down next year, but I suspect still probably 10gb+. We drive a truck which is why I use so much. Next year sonetime I will be going solo and have less time for net.
    Thanks for the info on the 20gb plan.

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    I drive also I get 17% employee discount but I'm still unlimited and do about 40gb a month. Netflix torrents droid TV sling player all to make nights fly
    Quote Originally Posted by crb View Post
    Thanks I may have to check into that. I think we could do 20gb. My data will probably go down next year, but I suspect still probably 10gb+. We drive a truck which is why I use so much. Next year sonetime I will be going solo and have less time for net.
    Thanks for the info on the 20gb plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DolphinDroid View Post
    Moosc has it correct about the 20gb plan. I would pay outright before spending $150 a month on data.

    My wife and I are on a family plan. I just got the RAZR M and moved to the 2gb data while my wife still has unlimited. Only the line using the upgrade has to give up the unlimited data on a family plan.

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    True, we can afford to buy new phones outright it just concerns me that they could cancel us or change their minds on allowing us to stay grandfathered.

    I'm leaning staying with Verizon because I like their coverage. We spend $160 now for 1400 minutes and unlimited data on 2 lines. We don't come close to our minutes with friends and admit and m2m. We may just buy outright roll the dice and keep our plan. Adding a tablet or iPad would be nice, but there are ways around having to "add" it to the plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hokiesteve View Post
    Not necessarily. Given the complexities of service pricing, it's pretty difficult to determine why revenues go up or down since there are many factors.

    There are many people, myself included, that buy their service for coverage and reliability. Verizon has now and will have the largest amount of nationwide LTE network coverage at the end of 2013 with their whole exisiting 3g footprint covered by it. At that point, they'll probably start filling in additional markets they don't already have, start deploying VoLTE, and start deployment of AWS LTE. This is where Verizon shines and this is why many people will pay them for their service at the rates they offer.

    However, they are absolutely smoking something if they think that users like me are going to burn precious tiered data on garbage they were paid to promote and force on to my phone. Given that data speeds exceed DSL and nearly match cable service, data cost per GB should have gone down rather than up. It's quite possible if they had offered more data for each pricing tier, that they might have encouraged their wireless subscribers to use the adware applications that they were paid to deliver users for and give the advertisers value for their money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moosc View Post
    I drive also I get 17% employee discount but I'm still unlimited and do about 40gb a month. Netflix torrents droid TV sling player all to make nights fly



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    Wow 40gb. We get 17 or 19% discount. I probably would use more, but as ltl drivers we are home 2 days a week. I have no idea how my wife uses so much less data than I do. I do a lot of forums and Facebook. I guess I do upload/download quite a few pics to and from Photobucket and Facebook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DolphinDroid View Post
    If your wife uses less that 2gb of data then she can get the subsidy and move to a tiered plan. Therefore you would only need to buy one full priced or pre owned phone. Just because she moves from unlimited does not mean you have to.

    Secondly... Verizon offers up to 20gb shared plans too.

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    Not sure this is accurate. If he is currently on a family plan, all lines on the plan automatically get enrolled into the new plan, if a subsidized upgrade is used. I don't think you can pick and choose. Is this correct?
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    No, that is not correct. Current customers can NOT be forced to the share everything plan. Also, if you are on a family plan, the ONLY line that has to go to tiered data is the one using the upgrade and getting phone at subsidized price.

    Case in point... I have five lines on my family plan. Two smartphones and three dumbphones. I just used one of the dumbphones upgrades to buy my iPhone 5. That line went to the tiered plan until I removed the iPhone from that line and replaced it with the previous dumbphone. I then put the iPhone on my line. My wife and I still enjoy unlimited data on our two smartphone lines.




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    No, that is not correct. Current customers can NOT be forced to the share everything plan. Also, if you are on a family plan, the ONLY line that has to go to tiered data is the one using the upgrade and getting phone at subsidized price.

    Case in point... I have five lines on my family plan. Two smartphones and three dumbphones. I just used one of the dumbphones upgrades to buy my iPhone 5. That line went to the tiered plan until I removed the iPhone from that line and replaced it with the previous dumbphone. I then put the iPhone on my line. My wife and I still enjoy unlimited data on our two smartphone lines.




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    That's very good information. Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zrxoa1 View Post
    No, that is not correct. Current customers can NOT be forced to the share everything plan. Also, if you are on a family plan, the ONLY line that has to go to tiered data is the one using the upgrade and getting phone at subsidized price.

    Case in point... I have five lines on my family plan. Two smartphones and three dumbphones. I just used one of the dumbphones upgrades to buy my iPhone 5. That line went to the tiered plan until I removed the iPhone from that line and replaced it with the previous dumbphone. I then put the iPhone on my line. My wife and I still enjoy unlimited data on our two smartphone lines.




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    Are you able to cancel the data package after the upgrade? This would be an option.

    I also told the wife we could open two lines in her name and pay the early fee to save a few $$$.

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    Yes, dropped the data package. The only evidence that line had an iPhone 5 on it for a few days is the fact that it is under contract for two more years.


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    Oops. Double post.
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    I pay $70/month plus taxes and fees for 450 minutes and unlimited data. I use Google Voice for texting and use about half of my minutes. If I had to switch to the share everything plan, the cheapest I could go is $40 for unlimited talk/text and 300 MB of data, plus $40 for one smartphone. It winds up being $10 more for so much less data with the only benefit being able to send MMS.

    If I got 1GB for $50, that would be $90/month, or $20 more per month than I'm paying now. I could have just added unlimited texting to my line for that price and still have unlimited data.

    The Share Everything plans are definitely a rip off for me personally. If I had to switch to that plan, I'd be switching to T-Mobile.
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    No name calling needed, let's use one word: Greed.
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    I get unlimited data at fast 4g speeds
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