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    I wanted to document my experience here so far with getting a new phone on one of our family lines. The saga is not over yet but here's the sequence of events so far.

    My family has 4 smartphones on our account. Back when it was first announced that Verizon was going with capped data plans I made sure to make each account an unlimited data account as I'd heard that unlimited data would be held on your account if you had it prior to the change date. That worked out to be true.

    My son's line was a Blackberry Curve 3G. When it crapped out, he and my wife went to the loca store to get him a new phone. This was on Sept 10. Since I had heard at that point that Verizon was taking phone upgrades and changing them to limited data accounts at that time, I instructed my wife to speicifically ask about this and to call me if they said we had to change. When they spcifically asked the salesperson about this, she assured them that "oh, you have the good grandfathered unlimited data and no, of course that will not be changed". When they came home with his new phone I was suprised but happy. I had no reason to believe that they had been lied to.

    This morning I got a text and an email from Verizon that one of our liens (my son's line) was at the halfway point of his monthly data allowance. This was surprising since how do you hot halfway on unlimited? When I launched My Verizon I saw that his line indeed was set to a 2Gb cap. When I got to work and logged into verizonwireless.com it said that I had recently changed my plan. So I called.

    The person I spoke to said that they HAD to change it to a 2Gb plan per their policy, that the salesperson couldn;t change that, and in fact as she sold us the phone at the subsidized price she should have gotten a popup on her screen indicating that the customer was about to lose unlimited data on that line. So they were lied to.

    The rep on the phone said that since it was done at a store I should call that store and speak with the manager, that managers had the authority to re-instate the unlimited data. He also apologized but of course that does me no good. I have yet to call because that store is not open yet.

    I will post updates to this story. It's not so much that she failed to mention it...that could be an honest mistake (even though at that time I had not heard of the "pay full price to keep unlimited date" policy yet...I'd heard of it since Sept 10 of course...I check in here at AC fequently. It's that she was asked about it and flat-out lied to my wife and son.

    I'm not hopeful because if the manager is who I think she is she's quite the sourpuss. We'll see how it gies but I think Verizon just found a way to screw me some more.
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    I think you are within the return period return it and pay the restock fee and buy one of craigslist or ebay. Sucks

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    Yes you have to be extremely careful. If I were you I would ask the manager to add back the unlimited as you were told you could keep it. See if you can get a name of the employee that sold your wife the new phone.

    Realize that if you make changes to your account or plan I would be 100 percent sure you know what's going on. When I wanted to transfer my upgrade to another line then upgrade that line but activate the phone on my line, the employees all looked super confused.

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    The store won't remedy anything. They only care about their own metrics. Get somebody over the phone, and have them look into it with a supervisor, meaning the stuff about your account. And also request to submit a complaint against the store manager. Their regional people will look into it. Don't hesitate. Verizon stores have become like Starbucks. The managers absolutely will not do anything, and the rest are sales drones. managers are transferred to different store locations ALL the time. So this gives them less reason to do anything.

    Definitely file a complaint, and try to get the store manager's name ahead of time. They will ask for it.





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    I'm at the district manager level now. Waiting for a call back. Store manager was no help...the salesperson says she told them and says she even circled it on the receipt. Manager is taking her word and not my wife's The receipt is unmarked but does say 2gb plan on it.
    I was offered 5gb at the 2gb price but for 2 months only. All that would do is make him get used to having a 5gb limit. Much like the pusher offers the first dose of heroin for free. And I'd probably have to remember to call and change it or it would probably automatically stay at 5Gb and start charging $50 rather than change from 5gb to 2Gb at the end of the 2 month time period. I passed. We'll take this higher and see where we end up. The lady I talked to last before the district manager did say it was wrong to say we'd get unlimited and then not deliver it. I said she was the first person at Verizon that seemed to hold that view. She laughed but didn't change her offer. Apparently feeling that something wrong was done is not the same as feeling that it should be made right.
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    I really hope you get what you were promised, but I wouldn't be too optimistic. the Verizon plan is to get as many people off of unlimited data as possible, so your battle is definately an uphill one. sounds like you're making some progress, so stay the course. I'm 10 months and counting until I upgrade both my lines. bye bye unlimited data....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mccornwall View Post
    I'm at the district manager level now. Waiting for a call back..............
    I'm also waiting for DM level support at this point, regarding a retail corporate store manager. It's some unwritten policy about returns/exchanges from DM down to local area specific stores. Something about they're getting too many returns basically, so they're not meeting certain numbers. Bunch of BS, and somehow now the stores think they can override corporate policy available to the mass consumer market.
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    No good! I would be unhappy too! Then again I personally only use about 1gig or less a month with my metered plan on ATT! :P

    I hope they can get it back for you. But I have a gut feeling that the chances of that happening are pretty grim...
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    Any updates?
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    I would definitely keep climbing up the ladder until this gets resolved!
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    You should have returned the phone and had them revert you back before the upgrade.. Hope your not past your 14 days (Which is what they are probably trying to do)...


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    Well, his previous phone had completely died...so going back is not an option. We were just fortunate that it waited until he had an "upgrade" coming at the time it did, I'm currently waiting for a return call from a district manager. It's over 14 days anyway. I'm pretty sure I'm getting strung along with bull but we'll keep playing until I'm out of options.
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    Corporate America sucks. they care NOTHING about good customer service, they just want our money. I sent an email to Verizon over a month ago, basically stating how unhappy I am with my phone. have I gotten any kind of response, even that stupid "we have received your email" crap? NO. unfortunately, all the other carriers are pretty much the same. Once they have you under contract, they pretty much have you where they want you. Working for two of the LARGEST corporations in the country (walmart/UPS), I get to see firsthand how the big wheel turns. it's not pretty. I would call whatever number you last called and ask about your callback from a district manager. if you don't they have NO incentive to call you on their own. good luck to you.
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    Since this is the fault of the store and not necessarily the carrier, I think you are SOL about getting the unlimited on the new phone.

    That being said, unless they really pull some strings for you, your most likely option is to return the phone. If they try to slap you with a restocking fee, dispute it with your credit card company.
    If X were here, he would have tried to talk things out first. Unfortunately for you, X isn't here.
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    Verizon lied to me as well! I upgraded to 4 smart phones because I was told I'd get unlimited data due to the company I work for. I just found out that I don't have unlimited data but a 2gb package for each phone. Tomorrow is the 14th day so I must quickly decide to return everything and go back to my old basic Verizon phones or take an offer of moving to a 4 gb shared data plan. I've been a Verizon customer for years - I can't believe I've been baited and switched. I would not have upgraded if it weren't for the lie they told me. I'm totally shocked and saddened that they did this to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metoo101 View Post
    Verizon lied to me as well! I upgraded to 4 smart phones because I was told I'd get unlimited data due to the company I work for. I just found out that I don't have unlimited data but a 2gb package for each phone. Tomorrow is the 14th day so I must quickly decide to return everything and go back to my old basic Verizon phones or take an offer of moving to a 4 gb shared data plan. I've been a Verizon customer for years - I can't believe I've been baited and switched. I would not have upgraded if it weren't for the lie they told me. I'm totally shocked and saddened that they did this to me.
    You should have confirmed through your company you would keep unlimited, as in no plan changes.

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    Well my 14 days is long gone...it was mostly gone when I found out I only had 2g on that line. Like I said in the first post I only found out when I got a text saying that lline was at the halfway point....to which I thought...how do you go halfway to infinity?
    In any case, I need to call again today to see what the District mgr's response is...I left him a message two days ago and haven't heard back yet. I am not hopeful but need to push anyway. I wonder if the IL attorney general would be interested or the public service commision. This does seem like a deceptive practice designed to encourage upgrades that wouldn't happen otherwise. I also feel that there would be no better treatment with any other carrier. They are all parasites. My cellular bill for the entire family is higher than my electric and gas bills combined. And I get a corporate discount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mccornwall View Post
    Well my 14 days is long gone...it was mostly gone when I found out I only had 2g on that line. Like I said in the first post I only found out when I got a text saying that lline was at the halfway point....to which I thought...how do you go halfway to infinity?
    In any case, I need to call again today to see what the District mgr's response is...I left him a message two days ago and haven't heard back yet. I am not hopeful but need to push anyway. I wonder if the IL attorney general would be interested or the public service commision. This does seem like a deceptive practice designed to encourage upgrades that wouldn't happen otherwise. I also feel that there would be no better treatment with any other carrier. They are all parasites. My cellular bill for the entire family is higher than my electric and gas bills combined. And I get a corporate discount.
    Not to be a jerk or anything, but in an issue like this as soon as you got the new phone you should have checked both your account and your available data. When I did the upgrade swap and got my S3 even to this day I monitor my data closely to make sure it doesn't change.

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    Well, I went to the Verizon store expecting the worse. I explained the situation to the manager and within 5 minutes I had unlimited data on all four phones - no hassles.
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    This should take only one phone call. Come on Verizon!



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    Well, I eventually filed a complaint with the office of the IL attorney general. They contacted verizon who contacted me. The AG office also advised me to consider any reasonable offer. Verizon offered me a chance to change his data limit to the 5Gb level and to do so in a way that actually reduced my monthly bill from what it was with unlimited. I took it. I know some of you will say that I should have held out but this worked for my situation and is an OK for solution for me. YMMV. I found it interesting how quickly they contacted me after they had stopped communicating with me after I got the AG involved. They also said the situation where the salesperson lied to me will become an HR matter. I also got my daughter's upgrade date moved up which was something I needed to have happen so I could get her a new phone for Christmas while she's home from school...a convenience thing but helpful to me.
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    Consider yourself lucky. No offense but you should have immediately checked your bill online and your plan to see what changes were made after your wife went to get the phone. If you caught it soon a simple phone call and they would have reversed it all.

    Glad you got a resolution. 5 gig should be okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pblakk View Post
    The store won't remedy anything. They only care about their own metrics. Get somebody over the phone, and have them look into it with a supervisor, meaning the stuff about your account. And also request to submit a complaint against the store manager. Their regional people will look into it. Don't hesitate. Verizon stores have become like Starbucks. The managers absolutely will not do anything, and the rest are sales drones.
    This statement makes me laugh so hard. Managers fix these things all the time. It happened in their store, and they don't want it to keep happening because the returns and credits giving to remedy completely destroys their commission checks. It's pretty obvious you have no idea how the in store process works. You don't think return sales and credits affect a sales rep commission check? If you knew how it worked you probably would think twice about throwing a statement out like you just did. Are they crappy managers and sales reps? Yes. But do returns affect them? Yes. There is also a second element that a lot of people forget, their are two types of employees minus the manager's, sales reps and customer service reps. You may have gotten a customer service rep, who may have been less educated on such a thing.

    It also pisses me off that employee do things like, and don't know there stuff. And then the rest of the company looks bad because of it. Another question is was this done in an indirect store or Corporate store? Because the Corporate locations actually make you read and sign something going over any changes during the sales process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pblakk View Post
    I'm also waiting for DM level support at this point, regarding a retail corporate store manager. It's some unwritten policy about returns/exchanges from DM down to local area specific stores. Something about they're getting too many returns basically, so they're not meeting certain numbers. Bunch of BS, and somehow now the stores think they can override corporate policy available to the mass consumer market.
    Are you dealing with a Corporate or indirect store? Because you have 14 days to return anything with a restocking fee on some items. Not really a way around that and don't know why you would have to deal with a DM at that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metoo101 View Post
    Well, I went to the Verizon store expecting the worse. I explained the situation to the manager and within 5 minutes I had unlimited data on all four phones - no hassles.
    Here we go. Every company you will have people that are not ethical. You should be naming the store you went to and the company as a whole. Or the people you are dealing with. I have seen many things that people complain about here daily reversed because of employee error.
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