- 05-02-2012, 02:59 PM
Thread Author #1
--Chris [cole2kb]

"Any story about malware on any platform...without numbers is not giving you the full picture, and just might be more worried about getting your clicks than any real discussion."
Words to live by: there are always two sides to every story.Thanked by 2: - 05-02-2012, 03:05 PM #2
- 05-02-2012, 03:15 PM
Thread Author #3
Re: Optimus Elite @ Walmart.com
Totally agree with you. I think they've got something up their sleeve though, just have to wait and see.
--Chris [cole2kb]

"Any story about malware on any platform...without numbers is not giving you the full picture, and just might be more worried about getting your clicks than any real discussion."
Words to live by: there are always two sides to every story. - 05-02-2012, 05:59 PM #4
- 05-02-2012, 06:22 PM #5
- 05-02-2012, 08:44 PM #6
- 05-02-2012, 09:12 PM #7
Re: Optimus Elite @ Walmart.com
Probably a mistake on Walmarts part, probably just posted it early.
Harmonia Developer for Optimus V, Optimus Elite, One V, Evo V, Evo Shift, Evo V
Donate here if you feel inclined to brighten my day. - 05-02-2012, 09:35 PM #8
Re: Optimus Elite @ Walmart.com
It's a nice phone, at that price they may bring the V's price down or discontinue it completely. Then they'll have a real excuse not to give us that GB update. Anyway, I don't plan on getting it, instead I'm going to get the HTC One V. Better specs + ICS looks awesome. And that ImageSense technology.... I'm used to carrying only one device around with me, so the camera should be good enough for random shots here and there.
- 05-02-2012, 09:48 PM #9
Re: Optimus Elite @ Walmart.com
If anything will kill the OV, this will be it.
Edit: In the near future.Last edited by LeslieAnn; 05-02-2012 at 09:56 PM.
Harmonia Developer for Optimus V, Optimus Elite, One V, Evo V, Evo Shift, Evo V
Donate here if you feel inclined to brighten my day. - 05-02-2012, 09:51 PM #10Guess whos coming back!
- 05-02-2012, 09:59 PM #11
Re: Optimus Elite @ Walmart.com
I meant in the near future and only in terms of Virgin still selling it.
Roms for this phone will survive for quite some time, and yes, the new one will need roms to really take off. Which is something that could be an issue for it.
I suspect the Evo 3D will be the next big thing on VM. It may be expensive, but it's a killer phone, with a good reputation and good developer support already behind it. The price will be it's only holdup. To me, it marks a major strategy shift by Sprint.
Harmonia Developer for Optimus V, Optimus Elite, One V, Evo V, Evo Shift, Evo V
Donate here if you feel inclined to brighten my day. - 05-02-2012, 10:04 PM #12Guess whos coming back!
- 05-02-2012, 10:18 PM #13
Re: Optimus Elite @ Walmart.com
You can bet not many people will. If your looking for 4G T-mo will beat VM until they get LTE. Sprints current 4G/wimax is subpar to T-Mo.
LeslieAnn mentioned the one thing that will be the deciding factor. Rom support. I can speak from experience that unless a device has good roms not many people will buy it. I regret every day for buying a SGS4G the xda community is atrocious and arrogant and that is pretty much the only android forum for it. All others are fragmented versions of xda. - 05-02-2012, 10:20 PM #14
Re: Optimus Elite @ Walmart.com
Evo 3d or the One V. I'm going to choose whichever is cheaper anyway. Virgin won't have to pay for the ICS update if it's already there, right? But I doubt they'll pay for the Evo's update, since they haven't payed for the OV, the Slider, or any other phone on Froyo for that matter. Does virgin have a single GB phone yet? And I obviously mean stock.
- 05-02-2012, 10:31 PM #15
Re: Optimus Elite @ Walmart.com
Um the Slider and the Htc Wildfire have stock 2.3.
As for paying for updates..Carriers dont pay for a update like buying a new os for your pc. They have to pay for their devs to port it to there network.
As for the rest. Any new phone released will either have ICS or will have to be updated to ICS as soon as possible. People will stop buying new phones that dont have the newest os eventually. - 05-02-2012, 10:41 PM #16Guess whos coming back!
- 05-02-2012, 10:44 PM #17
virgin mobile is hip to the Modding going on. thats the only reason they released the so called radio update. it actually does more to prevent modding than it does for anything else. i suspect they have already implemented possible roadblocks for this optimus variant. virgin mobile are a bunch of tight asses in that regard. ive dealt with them since the company formed and sold their first java app capable phone. they locked those down so tight the only apps you could get were either from their crap pay selections or opera browser. and that was only allowed because mini saved them on data use.

- 05-02-2012, 10:53 PM #18
Re: Optimus Elite @ Walmart.com
Don't count on T-Mobile being a deterent.
The minutes vs. Data ratio is terrible. 100 minutes? Really?
Yeah, they have another option, but exceed your data quota and they chop you WAAAY down on speed. Also coverage is different than Sprint, I won't say better or worse, just different, and won't work for everyone.
If you use your phone like most people VM is still hard to beat even at $35.
Want proof? VM grew 2.5%(?) last quarter, despite raising rates. Losses were relatively minor, meaning people aren't leaving due to the price increase like we think. Most VM users are not us.
Harmonia Developer for Optimus V, Optimus Elite, One V, Evo V, Evo Shift, Evo V
Donate here if you feel inclined to brighten my day.Thanked by 3: - 05-03-2012, 08:59 AM #19

- 05-03-2012, 10:24 AM #20
- 05-03-2012, 11:35 AM
Thread Author #21
Re: Optimus Elite @ Walmart.com
I'd agree that they aren't competitive, but not in the way that you seem to be implying, which is that they're doing things wrong. They are both pretty much there for different types of consumers.
Straight Talk is sold exclusively through Wal-Mart for a reason. Marketed towards families as an easy and affordable way to stay in touch with each other, without the hassles of a contract, and let's face it, it's marketed towards low income families as well that may have issues with things such as credit checks / deposits and the like.
Virgin Mobile is obviously marketed towards the single user, who tends to place more emphasis on having newer technology...a "smarter" device that is more data-centric. Power users. People like us.--Chris [cole2kb]

"Any story about malware on any platform...without numbers is not giving you the full picture, and just might be more worried about getting your clicks than any real discussion."
Words to live by: there are always two sides to every story. - 05-03-2012, 12:30 PM #22
- 05-03-2012, 12:43 PM #23
- 05-03-2012, 01:32 PM #24
Re: Optimus Elite @ Walmart.com
I think the screen on the device will prevent it from being the next OV in terms of sales. The OV and OE have the same screen resolution. The PPI for the OV is 180. The PPI for the OE is 165. I think anyone who has an OV will be disappointed in the OE's screen once they see it in person.
- 05-03-2012, 02:03 PM #25
Re: Optimus Elite @ Walmart.com
i work at walmart the OV is scanning eos now (end of season) which in walmart terms is general end of life. Sprint also pulled the S from my contract selection and replaced it with a touch screen feature phone from LG. straittalk is a decent setup, but they need to really update their selection. I honestly think the one to watch out for will be U prepaid from US Celluar. for those not wanting data, its amazing deal, 30 bucks a month, 1500 any time minutes, night weekends free starting at 9 and unlimited mobile to mobile. (now I'm not sure if thats only USCell to UScell, but either way, they get more for 30 than we do for 45, and they get unlimted every thing except data on the smart phone plan for 50, the data is caped at 2GB. which honestly, most people dont gove over that. I hardly ever hit my 2.5GB cap and I use tethering quite offten....




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