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  1. sollyazrak's Avatar
    hello i have a samsung s 5 mini that should be water resistant i took it to shower and maybe a bit of water went in the charging dock when i tried charging my phone the phone started like its on fire and it was smelling like its burning you can also hear it

    now i cannot charge my phone i don't know what to do i don't understand the phone should be water resistant

    please help
    05-31-2015 05:15 PM
  2. Rukbat's Avatar
    Water resistance depends on water pressure. The pressure at 1 meter (the rating on the phone - IP67) is 16psi. The pressure of most domestic water systems is 30psi - almost twice the pressure the phone is rated for. So your phone got wet.

    Charging it electrocuted anything left.

    If your insurance covers water damage, have the phone replaced. Otherwise, buy a new phone and, if you must have it in the shower, seal it in a plastic baggie.

    And NEVER charge a wet phone. Never turn it on. Never even leave the battery in it. Read Oh, no! My Phone got Wet! so you'll know what to do when your next phone gets wet. (There's no waterproof phone on the market, and none in the works for 2015 or 2016. Nextel stopped having Motorola make them about 10 years ago.)
    06-01-2015 12:04 AM
  3. sollyazrak's Avatar
    I think the problem is that the s 5 mini does not have a protector on the charging dock and water must off gone in i did not exposed the phone to show I put it in a stand inside the shower maybe little water touched the phone and the heat also could affected i don't understand if the phone didn't make direct contact with water why this happened
    06-01-2015 03:27 PM
  4. Rukbat's Avatar
    All that water vapor and steam gets into the phone. When you bring it back into a cooler room, it all condenses and causes water damage. It's worse than leaving the charging port cover open on an S5. The vapor gets into every little air space inside the phone, no matter how small, it's just humid air. You really need an airtight phone to bring into a hot humid environment like that.

    I don't think it's the heat itself - if the room was hot enough to affect the phone, either you're in a sauna, a steam lodge or you're risking death. It's the fact that the warmer the air, the more moisture it holds. When the phone (and the air inside it) cools off, that moisture condenses, and you have water damage all over the inside of the phone.
    06-01-2015 10:18 PM
  5. sollyazrak's Avatar
    so in conclusion you cannot take the samsung s 5 mini in to the shower even if it doesn't make direct contact with water
    06-02-2015 04:53 PM
  6. Rukbat's Avatar
    The last phone you could probably take into the shower without worrying about it was the Nextel i580 - as long as it didn't come into contact with the hot water. I wouldn't even take an S5 protected by 2 plastic bags into the shower. Or even into the bathroom when I'm taking a shower. Even with the power vent running.
    06-02-2015 05:38 PM
  7. sollyazrak's Avatar
    oh tnx this phone is a lie it said water resistant and that even you can put the phone in the water
    06-08-2015 08:04 PM
  8. Rukbat's Avatar
    Water resistant to 3 feet (actually 1 meter) with no additional pressure, with all ports securely sealed. There's a spec in the claim (IP67), and it's not guaranteed to exceed the spec. It's not guaranteed against steam or the pressure of a residential shower. It's also not guaranteed to work if you're charging it with a wet charging port.

    They didn't lie - you failed to research the fine print.
    anon8380037 likes this.
    06-09-2015 06:32 PM
  9. anon8380037's Avatar
    Question too Professor : Did you mean any battery can be unplugged either with a screwdriver or a bit of force after force opening the back.
    There's a question today about a Samsung Galaxy S6 edge where a light is flashing after trying to dry it.



    It would be helpful to have a list of phones, compiled in a forum or such, that cannot be opened or disengaged from the battery, so are definitely done for if dropped in water.
    07-15-2015 06:18 AM
  10. anon8380037's Avatar
    http://forums.androidcentral.com/sho...d.php?t=554658

    (Darn, could not get back in to my post in these guides)
    07-15-2015 06:20 AM
  11. Rukbat's Avatar
    Question too Professor : Did you mean any battery can be unplugged either with a screwdriver or a bit of force after force opening the back.
    There's a question today about a Samsung Galaxy S6 edge where a light is flashing after trying to dry it.
    Answered by belodion and myself. Thanks.


    It would be helpful to have a list of phones, compiled in a forum or such, that cannot be opened or disengaged from the battery, so are definitely done for if dropped in water.
    It would have to be updated for every new phone, and it would soon get too large to be manageable.

    People know their own phones. If you can't pull the back off (the carrier can tell you that when you activate it), you can't pull the battery. If you can pull the back off, you pull it off and see if the battery is sitting there, ready to be removed with a fingernail. If it's not, the phone has to be disassembled to remove the battery, and I don't recommend that anyone but a cellphone repairman do that. (Just bending the motherboard up 1/16" can keep the phone from working after it's reassembled.)

    But it's one reason I wouldn't keep an S6, even if someone gave me a new one in the box. I'd sell it unopened. Removable battery, SD card and a case that can take a beating are three deal breakers for me.
    anon8380037 likes this.
    07-15-2015 06:52 PM
  12. Steve Kiefer1's Avatar
    To be clear on the alcohol bath, what exactly needs to be removed prior to bath/cleaning from Note 3. Can you submerge after removing just the back, battery, sim card and s-pen? Or should it be dismantled further?

    Thank you
    07-30-2015 04:01 PM
  13. Rukbat's Avatar
    Remove the battery and wipe it down with alcohol separately. Remove the pen and the SIM and SD cards and bathe them. Then bathe the whole phone. The idea is to both absorb all the water and to dissolve all the impurities that were in the water and wash them out into the alcohol.

    If you know how to disassemble the phone, soak each part in alcohol for a minute or two, then wipe each one down with a clean alcohol swab (the kind they wipe your arm with before giving you a shot).
    smokeville24 likes this.
    07-30-2015 11:12 PM
  14. Arlene619's Avatar
    Believe it or not I must have the best luck... I was at the beach, left my phone on the sand... far from shore.. a huge wave hit and water hit the shore where my phone was, it got carried away by the wave.. I grabbed it, removed the battery. As soon as I got home left it in a bag of rice.. the next day it was working fine. Lol. Idk which one helped but I can say that the rice trick didn't mess up my phone.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    smokeville24 likes this.
    09-02-2015 12:10 PM
  15. Rukbat's Avatar
    The rice won't - if the phone didn't get wet inside, which is probably what happened. Removing the water but leaving the impurities - which is what putting a wet phone into rice does - is what causes the damage.
    smokeville24 likes this.
    09-02-2015 12:23 PM
  16. smokeville24's Avatar
    what are the chances that my phone is saved? i have a note 4. it went for a short swim in sea water , about 15secs after which. i took out the battery. About 1hr later( because i was in the jungle) i washed it out with clean water and shook it out then i swished it around in some rubbing alcohol and shook it out. another hour after that i finally got some rice and placed it in a bag and left it ,that is phone, stylus and battery separated of course. i left it in the sun. mind you the day was extremely hot.i live in the tropics. in the evening i thought that it would be dried by then so i placed my battery in and nothing i placed it back in a bowl of uncooked rice and left it there overnight what are the chances of it turning on ?
    09-30-2015 08:17 AM
  17. Rukbat's Avatar
    Not much. If washing it in alcohol didn't fix the problem, one of two things happened:

    1. The hour of sitting wet and dirty damaged something.

    2. One alcohol bath wasn't enough and whatever impurities were left in caused damage.

    (Sea water is a great conductor of electricity, so probably half the parts on the motherboard burned out as soon as they got wet. I'm guessing you'll need another motherboard and possibly another screen. Depending on repair prices where you are, buying a used one on Swappa might be a better idea.)
    Laura Knotek and smokeville24 like this.
    10-02-2015 04:46 PM
  18. bzzy's Avatar
    One caveat from my recent (in-progress) experience with alcohol-bathing my MotoG {XT1028, 2013, 1st gen}: don't soak the plastic outer back cover (POBC) with the rest of the phone. The POBC (at least for this model) has a coating on its back which the isopropyl (at least, the 91% solution I bought) erodes off the rest of the POBC, such that the coating comes off into the solution in small pieces. You should probably just wiping off the POBC with soap and water and set it aside to airdry.
    10-14-2015 06:22 PM
  19. Rukbat's Avatar
    The alcohol soak is just to get the impurities off. Unless there's oil in the water you dropped it in, just clean water should be enough, without any soap.

    (I'm amending the first post to reflect the problem with 90% alcohol and the MotoG.)
    10-15-2015 11:18 AM
  20. Cloud7z's Avatar
    I have an S6 (irremovable battery) that I left on a wet desk all night charging. It wasn't very wet but it has messed up my phone. The phone still works and turns on as usual. However it will no longer charge, and I can smell a burning smell inside the charger port. What should I do?
    12-16-2015 11:04 AM
  21. anon(632115)'s Avatar
    Not a lot you can do personally. This needs to be repaired professionally as the burning smell suggests something has shorted so the damage is potentially serious
    12-16-2015 11:14 AM
  22. Rosiella ShadowsHeart's Avatar
    simple take the back off remove the battery and stick it in dry rice and make sure that the phone completely cover in the rice and let it sit there for 6 hours and once 6 hours is up take it out of the rice put battery back in replace the back on the phone and turn it on and be good as new ( the rice will draw the moisture out like water and etc )

    💖🌹Rosie💖🌹
    01-06-2016 02:44 AM
  23. sionoh99's Avatar
    So if I have charged it when it was still quite wet, is there no way to fix it?
    01-17-2016 06:19 AM
  24. pete101's Avatar
    All that water vapor and steam gets into the phone. When you bring it back into a cooler room, it all condenses and causes water damage. It's worse than leaving the charging port cover open on an S5. The vapor gets into every little air space inside the phone, no matter how small, it's just humid air. You really need an airtight phone to bring into a hot humid environment like that.

    I don't think it's the heat itself - if the room was hot enough to affect the phone, either you're in a sauna, a steam lodge or you're risking death. It's the fact that the warmer the air, the more moisture it holds. When the phone (and the air inside it) cools off, that moisture condenses, and you have water damage all over the inside of the phone.
    Can i ask i took my s6 edge plus into a car which was very humid due to windows being left open and rain getting in.

    The temperature is cold here like 10C or less the windscreen is always full of condensation.

    I forgot about this when i sat in the car and took my phone out to use it. Prior to that i had the heating on so the air was warmed up so obviously more moisture in the air inside the car. I got out of the car and came back 20 mins later by which time the air had cooled a bit inside but was still a bit damp humid. It was only 7C outside so cold. Inside i would say it was 12C with high relative humidity i could feel my hands and clothes getting wet as the cold outside temp on my clothes met the warmer humid air inside the car.

    My question is how much if that humid air would have gotten inside the phone via the headphone jack, speaker and charging port? It was maybe 10 mins i sat inside the humid car before i realised.

    Weirdly no condensation was on the screen maybe cos the temperature of the phone was above the dew point temperature but my hands and clothes were below hence the dampness.

    Is it possible a lot of that coldish-warm humid air got inside my phone through those small entrances?

    I know it's important to keep it above the dew point temperature to avoid condensation forming inside the phone.

    I put it in a bag of silica gel but only had a few packets so not enough and ziplocked it overnight the problem is that the temp dropped overnight meaning it must have fell below the due point and whatever moisture was inside would have condensed.

    What else could i do? I know steam and moisture humid air can be worse than dropping it in water as the air can get into places which water cant and factor in the varying temp betwedn night n day guarantees condensation forming. Is 8 hours enough time for silica to remove the humid air inside my phone?
    01-25-2016 07:53 AM
  25. pete101's Avatar
    All that water vapor and steam gets into the phone. When you bring it back into a cooler room, it all condenses and causes water damage. It's worse than leaving the charging port cover open on an S5. The vapor gets into every little air space inside the phone, no matter how small, it's just humid air. You really need an airtight phone to bring into a hot humid environment like that.

    I don't think it's the heat itself - if the room was hot enough to affect the phone, either you're in a sauna, a steam lodge or you're risking death. It's the fact that the warmer the air, the more moisture it holds. When the phone (and the air inside it) cools off, that moisture condenses, and you have water damage all over the inside of the phone.
    Would putting a fan on low setting on the ports speed up the evaporation process?

    It's about 12c in my room now but i dont know if there is still humid air inside the phone if there is and it hasn't turned into condensation will a fan evaporate it quicker provided it doesn't cool the phone so much it drops below the dew point.

    Im just panicking cos my hands were quite damp inside the car telling me that the humidity musta been close to 100% since my clothes and hands felt wet the only saving grace was my phone was in my pocket heating up prior to taking it out in the car so prob above the temperature of the air but could the humid air still get inside?

    I didn't see any moisture in the bag

    Im just annoyef with myself for not winding down windows or realising sooner i really hope i not caused damage inside it that's invisible or corrosive
    01-25-2016 08:02 AM
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