03-09-2014 10:31 AM
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  1. Solrighal's Avatar
    Can you or anyone else elaborate on this please? Like you can no longer move Apps to SD? Or SD storage all together does not work? I'm somewhat of an audiophile and use my phone as a music player with around 30 some odd GB's of music, So having SD storage is critical.

    I read an article that talked about the changes although I couldn't truly understand the changes through the tech talk and how it affects the end user.
    I use my GN3 in exactly the same way and, although I've downloaded kitkat, I've yet to install it.

    I don't know about Poweramp but I've read that it has caused problems with Neutron, which is the best music app and the one I use.

    In life I generally follow the old rule 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'.

    Sent from my SM-N9005
    03-06-2014 01:35 PM
  2. trparky's Avatar
    I was looking forward to using ART (Android RunTime) after I updated to KitKat 4.4.2 on my Nexus 7 (Grouper) but after seeing that many apps don't work under it, the air has been let out of the KitKat balloon for me.
    03-06-2014 02:01 PM
  3. bradley129's Avatar
    I was looking forward to using ART (Android RunTime) after I updated to KitKat 4.4.2 on my Nexus 7 (Grouper) but after seeing that many apps don't work under it, the air has been let out of the KitKat balloon for me.
    Were talking about touchwiz not stock which are totally different stock which your nexus uses its considered perfectly stable and can run anything jellybean can and has almost no issues.

    Sent From My Smoking Hot Galaxy SIII
    03-06-2014 02:14 PM
  4. trparky's Avatar
    I have a Note 3 with the factory stock Android image (TouchWiz and all) along with a Nexus 7. I was looking forward to KitKat on my Note 3 but with the fact that I'm not seeing that much to make me want to upgrade to KitKat, again the air has been let out of the KitKat balloon for me.
    03-06-2014 02:31 PM
  5. n8ter#AC's Avatar
    Were talking about touchwiz not stock which are totally different stock which your nexus uses its considered perfectly stable and can run anything jellybean can and has almost no issues.

    Sent From My Smoking Hot Galaxy SIII
    It took weeks for Adobe to get Photoshop Express to run properly under ART so I don't think that statement is accurate.

    Also, didn't WhatsApp have issues running under ART as well, for basically weeks before they issued an update to support it.

    There actually are quite a few apps that don't run properly under ART.
    03-06-2014 02:32 PM
  6. n8ter#AC's Avatar
    I have a Note 3 with the factory stock Android image (TouchWiz and all) along with a Nexus 7. I was looking forward to KitKat on my Note 3 but with the fact that I'm not seeing that much to make me want to upgrade to KitKat, again the air has been let out of the KitKat balloon for me.
    The main benefit of KitKat on the Note III are performance improvements. Refined Mobile Printing. A Camera FW update, IIRC. Better quick access to the camera from the lock screen (without having to turn on that terrible lock screen widget system, or pinning shortcuts to your lock screen). And easy way to set Defaults for things like the Launcher and Messaging App. It also gives the phone full support for Emoji, not that I think that even matters since Samsung has had full emoji support in their devices (with Emoji in their KB) since 4.2.

    I have no issues with them making my already fast phone faster :-P
    03-06-2014 02:36 PM
  7. bradley129's Avatar
    It took weeks for Adobe to get Photoshop Express to run properly under ART so I don't think that statement is accurate.

    Also, didn't WhatsApp have issues running under ART as well, for basically weeks before they issued an update to support it.

    There actually are quite a few apps that don't run properly under ART.
    ART isn't even enabled as default in KitKat so that doesn't make sense... KitKat defaults to dalvic which EVERY android version uses so I don't see what all the hate about KitKat is about. If YOU enable test features THATS ON YOU!

    Sent From My Smoking Hot Galaxy SIII
    03-06-2014 04:28 PM
  8. n8ter#AC's Avatar
    ART isn't even enabled as default in KitKat so that doesn't make sense... KitKat defaults to dalvic which EVERY android version uses so I don't see what all the hate about KitKat is about. If YOU enable test features THATS ON YOU!

    Sent From My Smoking Hot Galaxy SIII
    Why are you flipping it. I simply stated a fact to counter your non-fact. ART breaks and has broken quite a few apps, period. Major ones, to boot.

    Caps Lock is immature and uncalled for. I read fine without you abusing it
    You can't tell something is perfectly stable and then yell at them when they say one of their apps broke under it. By saying it's perfectly stable you are in effect telling them that everything can be expected to run flawless on it.

    How you're saying, basically, your mileage may vary - which is complete 180 from the statement you made earlier (which I quoted).

    OEMs like Samsung are avoiding the issue statements like yours create by ripping ART out of their Kit Kat updates. That's the best way to avoid those issues.

    Sent from my Galaxy Note 3 using Tapatalk
    03-06-2014 04:40 PM
  9. bradley129's Avatar
    Why are you flipping it. I simply stated a fact to counter your non-fact. ART breaks and has broken quite a few apps, period. Major ones, to boot.

    Caps Lock is immature and uncalled for. I read fine without you abusing it
    You can't tell something is perfectly stable and then yell at them when they say one of their apps broke under it. By saying it's perfectly stable you are in effect telling them that everything can be expected to run flawless on it.

    How you're saying, basically, your mileage may vary - which is complete 180 from the statement you made earlier (which I quoted).

    OEMs like Samsung are avoiding the issue statements like yours create by ripping ART out of their Kit Kat updates. That's the best way to avoid those issues.

    Sent from my Galaxy Note 3 using Tapatalk
    lul I wasn't yelling at you or "abusing" you with caps (how can you yell at someone online) when you open development settings its like rooting your responsible.

    Sent From My Smoking Hot Galaxy SIII
    03-06-2014 06:02 PM
  10. n8ter#AC's Avatar
    lul I wasn't yelling at you or "abusing" you with caps (how can you yell at someone online) when you open development settings its like rooting your responsible.

    Sent From My Smoking Hot Galaxy SIII
    Those two things aren't equivalent.

    And using caps is the online equivalent to yelling.

    I said you abused caps lock. Not me.

    Sent from my Galaxy Note 3 using Tapatalk
    03-06-2014 06:04 PM
  11. bradley129's Avatar
    Those two things aren't equivalent.

    And using caps is the online equivalent to yelling.

    I said you abused caps lock. Not me.

    Sent from my Galaxy Note 3 using Tapatalk
    Caps is used for putting EMPHASIS on a WORD I'm not a teen girl texting YELLING AT HER FRIENDS I'm using it the correct way.

    Sent From My Smoking Hot Galaxy SIII
    03-06-2014 06:20 PM
  12. brosko's Avatar
    Caps is used for yelling and/or emphasizing. It's up to user, reader and situational discretion.
    when all words are in caps it's yelling.
    when only certain words are in caps it is simply emphasizing that particular word. This is my opinion.
    03-06-2014 07:45 PM
  13. troshs's Avatar
    On another note, anyone who listens to music alot notice that if you shuffle music and then have to go out of your music player that it doesn't automatically stay shuffled? At least mine used to on 4.3. Minor workaround but just an observation.

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    03-07-2014 11:13 AM
  14. Andrei M's Avatar
    I have application lag several times and crash (didn't responding) after kitkat update.
    Battery warmer (when open several apps).
    I feel battery drain faster too.

    Posted via Android Central App
    03-08-2014 09:11 PM
  15. Larzukzek's Avatar
    I'm curious, With all the problems and bugs with KitKat, Do they ever push out a fix update for a large OS update? Or do they pretty much just push out the main OS update and thats it...If there's problems, Deal with it?
    03-09-2014 12:06 AM
  16. troshs's Avatar
    Sometimes. 4.3 had to be stopped in the middle for us over here on AT&T, then resumed later after something was tweaked. I imagine since we're not Nexus or Google Play edition users, we might not be noticed with the issues. But a lot of folks I'm seeing have the same problems, so it's not just isolated.

    Posted via Android Central App
    03-09-2014 07:21 AM
  17. sparker781's Avatar
    That's good to know. Was reading the Xda forums....They aren't too helpful. Not looking for a handout for answers either but you read and then read some more, information overload. I keep reading the ATT Galaxy S4 as it stands right now can't be rooted....But as I was saying I'm sorta a noob when it comes to rooting. I did root my DROID X but does that consider me a pro? Absolutely Not

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using AC Forums mobile app
    03-09-2014 10:31 AM
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