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  1. ahaxton's Avatar
    the button is circular but guess what's inside it?

    a square.
    Nothing in the 5s.
    06-30-2014 08:01 PM
  2. tonyr6's Avatar
    I guess they got the circle home button from Apple.
    06-30-2014 11:07 PM
  3. gregs1213's Avatar
    I don't mind them, however they are not great for a first time user, especially the back button. I could see it being confusing to a first time user, they really don't serve a purpose.
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    06-30-2014 11:40 PM
  4. ottscay's Avatar
    I don't mind them, however they are not great for a first time user, especially the back button. I could see it being confusing to a first time user, they really don't serve a purpose.
    That's my issue. I introduced my wife, daughter, mother, father, an aunt and several friends to Android, and I can say that 50-60% of them will be really confused by this chance, and any newcomers to Android will be even more lost. I've used the new buttons now on my N7 for a few days, and I agree that it's an easy switch if you're already used to the buttons (though I still don't think they look good), but they're too obtuse for the uninitiated, and anything that makes it harder to learn Android goes against the entire premise of the huge Material Design overhaul.
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    07-01-2014 01:34 AM
  5. mrsmumbles's Avatar
    I like the new buttons. It's hard for me to imagine that they would confuse anyone more than anything else about Android.
    07-01-2014 01:51 AM
  6. npco543's Avatar
    I like the new buttons. It's hard for me to imagine that they would confuse anyone more than anything else about Android.
    As I said, I don't mind them, but you just can't say that they won't confuse anyone. How does a circle represent returning to the home screen? It doesn't. How does a simple square represent recent apps. Again, it just doesn't. At all. The triangle at least is "pointing" backwards and so could be assumed to be a back button. On the other hand, due to it's equilateral design, and the simple nature of the accompanying buttons, it could be assumed to be a simple shape and mean virtually anything.

    Again, I don't mind them, but it is a little concerning that it's getting to the point of design simply for the sake of design. When there's no particular purpose behind a design, then there's no reason to not redesign every version to follow recent trends or just on a whim. There's any number of areas where Android could use some attention, I just think the shape of the buttons wasn't particularly high on that list.
    07-02-2014 05:31 PM
  7. Flagz's Avatar
    As I said, I don't mind them, but you just can't say that they won't confuse anyone. How does a circle represent returning to the home screen? It doesn't. How does a simple square represent recent apps. Again, it just doesn't. At all. The triangle at least is "pointing" backwards and so could be assumed to be a back button. On the other hand, due to it's equilateral design, and the simple nature of the accompanying buttons, it could be assumed to be a simple shape and mean virtually anything.

    Again, I don't mind them, but it is a little concerning that it's getting to the point of design simply for the sake of design. When there's no particular purpose behind a design, then there's no reason to not redesign every version to follow recent trends or just on a whim. There's any number of areas where Android could use some attention, I just think the shape of the buttons wasn't particularly high on that list.
    Soon-to-be Android user here, and I can see why his comment made sense. This will honestly be the LEAST confusing thing about android for a user to pick up. Honestly, once I saw the new interface I knew exactly what they were going for. For one they're simple looking, elegant actually. They also clean up the home screen and make it very modern with clean cut shapes. I approve, then again that could be because I'm coming from a Windows Phone.
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    07-02-2014 09:34 PM
  8. Westifire's Avatar
    Didn't realize there were so many people that can't remember 3 shapes and their functions.
    07-03-2014 04:37 PM
  9. ottscay's Avatar
    Didn't realize there were so many people that can't remember 3 shapes and their functions.
    It's not a concern about remembering (already using the new ones), it's about learning them when you're new to the platform. Remember that people like us who frequent AC forums are about the least important people to design Android around - the OS needs to be approachable to people new to smartphones or switching from other platforms, and the new buttons create a "WTF is that?" moment since they have no intuitive association with their functions.
    07-03-2014 11:15 PM
  10. mrsmumbles's Avatar
    It's not a concern about remembering (already using the new ones), it's about learning them when you're new to the platform. Remember that people like us who frequent AC forums are about the least important people to design Android around - the OS needs to be approachable to people new to smartphones or switching from other platforms, and the new buttons create a "WTF is that?" moment since they have no intuitive association with their functions.
    But I had those moments with the old buttons. I had a lot of those moments.
    07-05-2014 02:26 AM
  11. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    I think muscle memory will help people who are already used to onscreen buttons. They aren't any different from most Android devices, mainly the Nexus, some of the later Motos, etc, where the keys are all oriented the same.

    As for the new crowd, as in anyone shifting from any other platform or a Samsung to a device with onscreen keys, this might be a little confusing, but people will easily get the hang of it.

    I loaded L on my Nexus, and while at first I didn't like the look, now I don't even notice.
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    07-05-2014 08:46 AM
  12. mrsmumbles's Avatar
    I think muscle memory will help people who are already used to onscreen buttons. They aren't any different from most Android devices, mainly the Nexus, some of the later Motos, etc, where the keys are all oriented the same.

    As for the new crowd, as in anyone shifting from any other platform or a Samsung to a device with onscreen keys, this might be a little confusing, but people will easily get the hang of it.

    I loaded L on my Nexus, and while at first I didn't like the look, now I don't even notice.
    I felt the same way, I wasn't crazy about how it looks (I don't have it on any device yet, just saw photos). But I'm wondering what everyone's thoughts are about Google incorporating Knox into "L"?
    07-05-2014 10:00 AM
  13. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    I felt the same way, I wasn't crazy about how it looks (I don't have it on any device yet, just saw photos). But I'm wondering what everyone's thoughts are about Google incorporating Knox into "L"?
    As for me, I like the idea behind it, I just hope it doesn't act exactly like Knox to the effect of if a user wishes to unlock a device to flash a different ROM.
    mrsmumbles likes this.
    07-05-2014 10:12 AM
  14. tonyr6's Avatar
    Maybe they will add a option where you can change the buttons to different styles.
    07-05-2014 01:09 PM
  15. mrsmumbles's Avatar
    As for me, I like the idea behind it, I just hope it doesn't act exactly like Knox to the effect of if a user wishes to unlock a device to flash a different ROM.
    Yes, just what I was thinking about. I read they'll have an option to turn it off but I'm confused about the whole thing. I guess we will find out soon
    07-05-2014 04:51 PM
  16. LeoRex's Avatar
    Didn't realize there were so many people that can't remember 3 shapes and their functions.
    Pretty much.

    I'm chalking this all up to "Uuungh.... CHANGE BAD! KILL WITH FIRE!!" OK, take no offense, but anyone who has a hard time with these buttons is going to have far more pressing issues operating that phone. It's not rocket science.
    07-08-2014 02:19 PM
  17. xchange's Avatar
    I don't care about their recognizability, I just find them unattractive
    07-08-2014 04:19 PM
  18. Aquila's Avatar
    I want to state that I have not been confused yet by the button configuration - not even in landscape mode.
    07-08-2014 05:56 PM
  19. tonyr6's Avatar
    Button themes would fix all these issues.
    07-08-2014 10:01 PM
  20. npco543's Avatar
    It's not about the amount of effort that may or may not be required to memorize what they're for. It's about violating one of the core principals of good UI design - that being the design of functional elements should, in some way, convey the function they accomplish. It's design for the sake of design - form before function. Microsoft got blasted, and rightfully so, for some of their idiotic UI choices in Windows 8. No reason Google should get a pass.

    Again, I don't mind them, but on principal, they ARE a bad UI design choice.
    ottscay likes this.
    07-13-2014 12:08 PM
  21. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    I like them. They stay.

    Posted via Android Central App
    It would be nice to have choices though, right?
    08-09-2014 07:46 AM
  22. smooth3006's Avatar
    i absolutely hate the new color scheme and those nav buttons. google is taking a few steps backward with L IMO.
    08-10-2014 08:52 AM
  23. RizaHawkeye's Avatar
    It would be nice if we could choose. I think the new buttons are horrible. I prefer the look of the current buttons.
    08-14-2014 08:35 AM
  24. barth2's Avatar
    It makes it easier to tell newbies what to do. Click the recent button. The what? The square, dummy. OK
    08-27-2014 04:16 PM
  25. RizaHawkeye's Avatar
    It makes it easier to tell newbies what to do. Click the recent button. The what? The square, dummy. OK
    Or "press the rectangles, dummy." It doesn't make it any easier. The current button, if anything, is easier, because it looks like the card stack you see when you press it.
    tonyr6 likes this.
    08-30-2014 10:10 AM
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