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  1. Epwhamilton's Avatar
    Personally I disliked the old Gallery app as it just seemed too far removed from the whole Google ecosystem... I, for one, prefer the Photos app. I would actually prefer Apple's approach and design (and that's about it from the Apple side btw

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    12-07-2014 12:07 PM
  2. xban1's Avatar
    When is 5.0.1 hitting on nexus 5?

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    12-07-2014 09:10 PM
  3. cybernutte's Avatar
    Why did Google see fit to integrate all the email accounts into Gmail? It is slow, clumsy and counter intuitive. To have the option of doing it would have been fine, but to be forced into it blows.
    I've had 5.01 downloaded on my Nexus 7 2013 waiting to be installed. I've been trying to get information about how well 5.01 works with other apps before I install it. Until now, I hadn't been aware that 5.01 integrates all email accounts into Gmail. I'd like more information about what this means/how this works. I have two Gmail accounts and several non-Gmail accounts. I definitely do NOT want the non-Gmail accounts integrated in any way into Gmail. They all serve different purposes, and I want them all to be separate. So how does this "integration" work? Does it affect other web-based email accounts like Yahoo, Lycos, FastMail, etc.? I read a university account through AquaMail rather than Inbox, but the mail comes to both. If I delete Inbox for that account (or delete that account from Inbox) and just use AquaMail, will that stop Gmail from accessing the account?

    I'd greatly appreciate more details about how this integration with Gmail works and how it can be avoided.
    12-08-2014 02:03 PM
  4. Gooch Patrol's Avatar
    no back button on lock screen music player anymore either which sucks
    12-08-2014 07:14 PM
  5. colyn1353's Avatar
    I would actually prefer Apple's approach and design (and that's about it from the Apple side btw

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    I hated Apple's gallery app especially their new deleted folder.. When I delete something I make sure I want to get rid of it before I delete it so why should I have to delete again..
    12-08-2014 08:02 PM
  6. daihard2008's Avatar
    I've had 5.01 downloaded on my Nexus 7 2013 waiting to be installed. I've been trying to get information about how well 5.01 works with other apps before I install it. Until now, I hadn't been aware that 5.01 integrates all email accounts into Gmail. I'd like more information about what this means/how this works. I have two Gmail accounts and several non-Gmail accounts. I definitely do NOT want the non-Gmail accounts integrated in any way into Gmail. They all serve different purposes, and I want them all to be separate. So how does this "integration" work? Does it affect other web-based email accounts like Yahoo, Lycos, FastMail, etc.? I read a university account through AquaMail rather than Inbox, but the mail comes to both. If I delete Inbox for that account (or delete that account from Inbox) and just use AquaMail, will that stop Gmail from accessing the account?

    I'd greatly appreciate more details about how this integration with Gmail works and how it can be avoided.
    It simply means you _can_ access non-Gmail accounts from Gmail. You don't have to use that service. The only thing is, Android now only supports Gmail (besides Inbox) as the native mail client, so if you want to manage non-Gmail accounts separately, you will need to use third-party mail apps.
    12-08-2014 08:56 PM
  7. cybernutte's Avatar
    It simply means you _can_ access non-Gmail accounts from Gmail. You don't have to use that service. The only thing is, Android now only supports Gmail (besides Inbox) as the native mail client, so if you want to manage non-Gmail accounts separately, you will need to use third-party mail apps.
    Thanks very much for your message. I hope you're right. I was basing my statements on what MostOSsuck said in the 6th posting in this thread: "Why did Google see fit to integrate all the email accounts into Gmail? It is slow, clumsy and counter intuitive. To have the option of doing it would have been fine, but to be forced into it blows." If the Gmail integration is an option, that's fine, but MostOSsuck does not describe it as an option.

    I already use a 3rd party app (Aqua Mail) to handle the email from my university account, and as long as I can continue to do that, and as long as it doesn't somehow find its way into Gmail, I'm content.
    12-08-2014 09:51 PM
  8. daihard2008's Avatar
    Thanks very much for your message. I hope you're right. I was basing my statements on what MostOSsuck said in the 6th posting in this thread: "Why did Google see fit to integrate all the email accounts into Gmail? It is slow, clumsy and counter intuitive. To have the option of doing it would have been fine, but to be forced into it blows." If the Gmail integration is an option, that's fine, but MostOSsuck does not describe it as an option.

    I already use a 3rd party app (Aqua Mail) to handle the email from my university account, and as long as I can continue to do that, and as long as it doesn't somehow find its way into Gmail, I'm content.
    Yes, it is an option. Gmail lets you add non-Gmail accounts just like the native mail client did. If you don't add any non-Gmail account to it, Gmail will work just like before. I assume @MostOSsuck was referring to the fact that Google got rid of the native mail client, forcing the user to use the Gmail app for everything unless they install a third-party mail app.
    12-08-2014 11:12 PM
  9. cybernutte's Avatar
    Yes, it is an option. Gmail lets you add non-Gmail accounts just like the native mail client did. If you don't add any non-Gmail account to it, Gmail will work just like before. I assume @MostOSsuck was referring to the fact that Google got rid of the native mail client, forcing the user to use the Gmail app for everything unless they install a third-party mail app.
    Thanks very much, Daihard2008, for this explanation. It makes very good sense, and I'm relieved to know that I don't have to have my non-Gmail accounts funnelled through Gmail. Now I can go back to deciding when/whether to move from 4.4.4 to 5.01. If there were an easy way to restore the tablet to 4.4.4 in case I'm one of the unlucky ones who experience problems with 5.0.1, I'd do so. But I'm not rooted, and I have NO wish to have to do a factory reset if things don't go well. So for now I guess I'll wait.

    Again, many thanks.
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    12-09-2014 10:43 AM
  10. Suk Smile's Avatar
    LGG2 is working great CM12 unoffifical 5.0.1
    12-09-2014 10:55 AM
  11. starkover's Avatar
    Got 5.01 on nexus 7 2013 yesterday.

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    12-09-2014 09:22 PM
  12. asherN's Avatar
    I don't know if you can hide the Gmail account from Gmail, but you can disable its notifications.
    And they are disabled. But the GMAIL app only shows 3 accounts in the quick pick, and even with notifications disabled, it shows in GMAIL.

    And the GMAIL app really needs to show which email account you are looking at...
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    12-10-2014 10:00 AM
  13. Nonymous666's Avatar
    And the GMAIL app really needs to show which email account you are looking at...
    Absolutely this.
    12-11-2014 02:29 PM
  14. brentj's Avatar
    Yes, it is an option. Gmail lets you add non-Gmail accounts just like the native mail client did. If you don't add any non-Gmail account to it, Gmail will work just like before. I assume @MostOSsuck was referring to the fact that Google got rid of the native mail client, forcing the user to use the Gmail app for everything unless they install a third-party mail app.
    Well, to be clear, when I updated my Nexus 7 (2013) from 4.4.4 to 5.0.1, it automatically migrated ALL of my email accounts to Gmail (a pop account, a hotmail account, and a work Exchange account, none of which had been in the Gmail account before the update). There was no "option" about it. I'm not sure there is any way to get them out of Gmail, other than completely deleting those accounts and then adding them back into some other email app. If there is, Gmail doesn't make it easy to find it. I downgraded back to 4.4.4, in large part because it ticked me off that Gmail hijacked all of my email accounts in this fashion.

    The same thing happened when I authorized the Gmail app update on my Note 4 phone (running 4.4.4). Gmail updated and hijacked all of my email accounts into the Gmail app. I was able to uninstall the updates, and now I simply reject any requests to authorize updates to Gmail.
    12-11-2014 03:15 PM
  15. Fleur Ottaway's Avatar
    I heard nexus 5 is not getting 5.0.1 or any other future OS updates. Is this true? How do we fix all the issues with our phones now?
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    12-11-2014 06:30 PM
  16. ptkelly's Avatar
    I hated Apple's gallery app especially their new deleted folder.. When I delete something I make sure I want to get rid of it before I delete it so why should I have to delete again..
    The Apple is designed for Apple users.
    12-11-2014 07:35 PM
  17. Soylent_Green's Avatar
    I heard nexus 5 is not getting 5.0.1 or any other future OS updates. Is this true? How do we fix all the issues with our phones now?
    You heard wrong...
    12-11-2014 08:02 PM
  18. cybernutte's Avatar
    Well, to be clear, when I updated my Nexus 7 (2013) from 4.4.4 to 5.0.1, it automatically migrated ALL of my email accounts to Gmail (a pop account, a hotmail account, and a work Exchange account, none of which had been in the Gmail account before the update). There was no "option" about it. . . .
    What did you use to read your 3 non-Gmail accounts before Gmail hijacked them? Did you use the stock Email client that came with the Nexus 7 (2013)? I ask because I too have a Nexus 7 (2013), and I definitely do NOT want any email accounts in my Gmail client except for my two Gmail accounts. When I first got the tablet, I used the stock Email client for two non-Gmail accounts, but I then switched over to AquaMail Pro, which I like a lot better. However, I found no way to remove the email accounts from the stock Email client. All I could do was disable it. I hope that's enough to prevent Gmail from hijacking the email accounts.

    It looks as if I may have a little longer to worry about this before it actually can occur. The notification that 5.0.1 is ready to be installed suddenly disappeared earlier today. I'm hoping Google has pulled it because it still is causing problems for a good number of people. But I imagine that the Gmail hijacking will still be part of the next update. Damn, I can remember when I was so happy to have a Gmail account.
    12-11-2014 11:01 PM
  19. Mandy Mannix's Avatar
    Can we expect Android 5.0.1 around December for the Nexus product line and all the other devices that had lollipop also?
    I think it's important to sort out the bugs a bit like iOS 7.0.1 and 8.0.1. Or even KitKat 4.4.1 to 4.4.4.

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    12-12-2014 01:58 AM
  20. brentj's Avatar
    What did you use to read your 3 non-Gmail accounts before Gmail hijacked them? Did you use the stock Email client that came with the Nexus 7 (2013)?
    Yes.
    12-12-2014 08:17 AM
  21. daihard2008's Avatar
    Well, to be clear, when I updated my Nexus 7 (2013) from 4.4.4 to 5.0.1, it automatically migrated ALL of my email accounts to Gmail (a pop account, a hotmail account, and a work Exchange account, none of which had been in the Gmail account before the update). There was no "option" about it. I'm not sure there is any way to get them out of Gmail, other than completely deleting those accounts and then adding them back into some other email app. If there is, Gmail doesn't make it easy to find it. I downgraded back to 4.4.4, in large part because it ticked me off that Gmail hijacked all of my email accounts in this fashion.

    The same thing happened when I authorized the Gmail app update on my Note 4 phone (running 4.4.4). Gmail updated and hijacked all of my email accounts into the Gmail app. I was able to uninstall the updates, and now I simply reject any requests to authorize updates to Gmail.
    In that case, Google probably had no choice but to migrate your existing non-Gmail accounts to Gmail, because Gmail was now the only native mail client that came with Android.
    12-12-2014 09:59 PM
  22. brentj's Avatar
    In that case, Google probably had no choice but to migrate your existing non-Gmail accounts to Gmail, because Gmail was now the only native mail client that came with Android.
    I'm not sure if that is correct on the Note 4, but regardless, Google had a choice when they revamped Gmail and decided to kill the other native "Email" app at the same time. They chose to deprive users of choice.
    12-12-2014 10:06 PM
  23. daihard2008's Avatar
    I'm not sure if that is correct on the Note 4, but regardless, Google had a choice when they revamped Gmail and decided to kill the other native "Email" app at the same time. They chose to deprive users of choice.
    Yes, I agree. That's the other choice they could have made (but decided not to). I'm personally fine with having only Gmail as the native mail client, because honestly, I don't see any noticeable difference between the old Mail interface and the Gmail interface for non-Gmail accounts. That being the case, the fewer apps to manage, the better for me. But apparently, tastes differ.
    12-12-2014 10:14 PM
  24. zorak950's Avatar
    The Gmail app doesn't migrate anything technically, it just does POP/IMAP like the old email app did, only in a different interface. You're not really deprived of choice: you can still use any email app on the Play Store for the same purpose.
    12-12-2014 10:16 PM
  25. daihard2008's Avatar
    Looks like the 5.0.1 factory image for the Nexus 4 has been published, as well as for the LTE Nexus 9.
    12-13-2014 09:41 PM
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