02-11-2015 11:46 PM
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  1. jaleelhamid's Avatar
    So its finally out! I have the nexus 5 but no update yet ;( anyone else get it yet
    02-04-2015 03:08 PM
  2. rcunningham's Avatar
    So its finally out! I have the nexus 5 but no update yet ;( anyone else get it yet
    Awesome! I was hoping they would name it "Android 5.1 m&m" Oh well.
    02-04-2015 03:53 PM
  3. Jab73180's Avatar
    It was rumored, not released.

    -Jason
    abenjemaa and smooth3006 like this.
    02-04-2015 07:53 PM
  4. travaz's Avatar
    02-04-2015 08:19 PM
  5. rrballer11's Avatar
    Will this fix the massive ram usage?

    Posted via Android Central App
    02-05-2015 12:18 AM
  6. Trigati's Avatar
    Will this fix the massive ram usage?
    You mean Android using RAM the way it was meant to be used, instead of letting it sit empty? Let's hope not.
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    02-05-2015 12:23 AM
  7. rrballer11's Avatar
    You mean Android using RAM the way it was meant to be used, instead of letting it sit empty? Let's hope not.
    No like a memory leak.. Some users of lollipop have this problem? Laggy OS compared to KitKat. Some need to restart there phones daily and apps closing by them self's while in use.

    Posted via Android Central App
    02-05-2015 01:11 AM
  8. zorak950's Avatar
    Will this fix the massive ram usage?
    Presumably, yes. The issue was marked in the official bug tracker as fixed in an upcoming release over a month ago, so I'm assuming it's baked into whatever update is coming next to affected devices.

    I'm really looking forward to it; the memory leak bug is my biggest problem with 5.0.1. Granted it's not a huge burden rebooting my phone once a week or so, but I shouldn't have to.
    02-05-2015 02:06 AM
  9. Trigati's Avatar
    No like a memory leak.. Some users of lollipop have this problem? Laggy OS compared to KitKat. Some need to restart there phones daily and apps closing by them self's while in use.

    Posted via Android Central App
    Ah, memory leak, gotcha. that would be an issue they hopefully fix quickly. If I didn't want Lollipop for ART and the changes in the way SD cards are handled, I'd want to wait for 5.1 for my Note 4. But its taking long enough for them to just get 5.0.1 out. Hopefully they'll be able to patch the memory leak in that before it's released.
    02-05-2015 04:26 AM
  10. cybernutte's Avatar
    If I didn't want Lollipop for ART and the changes in the way SD cards are handled, I'd want to wait for 5.1 for my Note 4. But its taking long enough for them to just get 5.0.1 out.
    Your statement may be the first inkling I've had that I may actually want Lollipop. How does Lollipop change the way SD cards are handled?
    02-05-2015 08:35 AM
  11. ManuxGR's Avatar
    It's official actually, lollipop 5.1 improves battery life and performance X2. Nobody knows yet if they mean only android one devices.
    02-05-2015 05:37 PM
  12. jaleelhamid's Avatar
    Android one devices already have 5.1 and nexus devices should by updated by end of the month
    02-05-2015 05:56 PM
  13. Trigati's Avatar
    Your statement may be the first inkling I've had that I may actually want Lollipop. How does Lollipop change the way SD cards are handled?
    Here you go.
    02-05-2015 08:28 PM
  14. StLouisMan2's Avatar
    Why is RAM so precious? Is it the size of the RAM things? Is it the cost of the material? Why can't they just put lots of RAM in every device? Or in every desktop computer anyway? I wonder whether it's like processors. They could install pretty fast ones, but they dribble them out year by year so we by new devices?
    02-05-2015 11:19 PM
  15. rrballer11's Avatar
    Why is RAM so precious? Is it the size of the RAM things? Is it the cost of the material? Why can't they just put lots of RAM in every device? Or in every desktop computer anyway? I wonder whether it's like processors. They could install pretty fast ones, but they dribble them out year by year so we by new devices?
    RAM is (random access memory), its totally different from processors. It holds temporary memory for recently used programs ,apps for faster loading times. As things advance programs/systems will require more ram. For example now a days windows for optimal performance on 90% of applications gaming ect.. Would be 8 GB anymore is a waste of money unless your doing something heavy.

    So basically, if you put more then what is really needed its a waste of money, it won't be used.

    Posted via Android Central App
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    02-06-2015 01:03 AM
  16. zorak950's Avatar
    The Moto G is proof that Lollipop can run fine with 1gb of RAM. Every high-end Android device has at least twice that. If they're having RAM capacity problems, something is wrong on the software side. Memory leaks are one example of how that can be true.
    02-06-2015 05:04 AM
  17. ManuxGR's Avatar
    true, the android lollipop 5.1 starts rolling to non android one devices!v
    02-06-2015 07:52 AM
  18. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    I just checked Google's factory images. There is no 5.1 listed yet. https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
    02-06-2015 09:05 AM
  19. jaleelhamid's Avatar
    true, the android lollipop 5.1 starts rolling to non android one devices!v
    Which devices? Android one are the only devices so far with 5.1 next should be nexus devices. Non android devices are just getting 7.0. They won't get 7.1 for a while
    02-06-2015 10:08 AM
  20. StLouisMan2's Avatar
    RAM is (random access memory), its totally different from processors. It holds temporary memory for recently used programs ,apps for faster loading times. As things advance programs/systems will require more ram. For example now a days windows for optimal performance on 90% of applications gaming ect.. Would be 8 GB anymore is a waste of money unless your doing something heavy.

    So basically, if you put more then what is really needed its a waste of money, it won't be used.

    Posted via Android Central App
    Thank you so much for responding! You have hit my point exactly! Why is RAM so precious that money can't be "wasted" on unused capacity? That is, why does it cost so much? They give you a computer with a terabyte hard drive which most people will never use, why not give them 5 or 10 gigabytes of RAM that they may never use? Thanks again for your help.
    02-06-2015 12:02 PM
  21. cybernutte's Avatar
    Thanks for the link. It's nice, I suppose that users may have more control over where on the SD card to put something, but I'm more concerned about how few things seem to be able to be moved to the SD card at all. I don't want to root my phone, and I was hoping that the changes Lollipop was making would include allowing non-rooted users to make much greater use of the SD card. Perhaps I missed something, but I didn't see anything in the article you cited that indicated the kind of change I was hoping for. I'd love to find that I'm mistaken.
    02-07-2015 10:21 PM
  22. rrballer11's Avatar
    Thank you so much for responding! You have hit my point exactly! Why is RAM so precious that money can't be "wasted" on unused capacity? That is, why does it cost so much? They give you a computer with a terabyte hard drive which most people will never use, why not give them 5 or 10 gigabytes of RAM that they may never use? Thanks again for your help.
    Because chances are that, that hardrive will be used? That's storage... The average person won't EVER!! use more then 8 GB of ram on current computers, its basically impossible to, unless your running a server or some very heavy programs. They are both 2 different things and get used totally different.

    Posted via Android Central App
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    02-08-2015 12:02 AM
  23. smooth3006's Avatar
    hopefully the new flagships coming out will have the most up to date lollipop release on it. google has no idea how their constant updates screw the oems and carriers. no wonder android is soo damn fragmented.
    02-08-2015 08:26 AM
  24. StLouisMan2's Avatar
    Because chances are that, that hardrive will be used? That's storage... The average person won't EVER!! use more then 8 GB of ram on current computers, its basically impossible to, unless your running a server or some very heavy programs. They are both 2 different things and get used totally different.
    Posted via Android Central App
    Very well. Eight gigabytes of RAM for everyone and I'll be content. I like to have a lot of programs running in the background. Clouds, Skype, Evernote, etc. and I can't do that with just 2 gigabytes.
    02-09-2015 11:44 PM
  25. Shilohcane's Avatar
    Thank you so much for responding! You have hit my point exactly! Why is RAM so precious that money can't be "wasted" on unused capacity? That is, why does it cost so much? They give you a computer with a terabyte hard drive which most people will never use, why not give them 5 or 10 gigabytes of RAM that they may never use? Thanks again for your help.
    RAM memory is a volatile types of memory (such as DRAM memory modules), where stored information is lost if power is removed. RAM retains its contents while powered on but when the power is interrupted the stored data is immediately lost. That means even when you aren't using your phone the RAM is burning your battery. The more RAM you add the more battery you use. Your terabyte hard drive on you laptop is magnetic memory that doesn't require power to maintain memory that is used to load the RAM memory on yur Laptop since the Disk is too slow. A SD Card is Flash memory that doesn't require power to store information but it is too slow of memory to replace RAM. I replaced my Laptop's magnetic terabyte disk with a much smaller and more expensive Solid State Drive which is FLASH memory that is much faster than the rotating magnetic terabyte hard drive. Now I can boot my laptop is second and not minutes and every thing from the small Solid State Drive loads quick in the the fast RAM memory.

    RAM cost a lot since it is very fast. As far as rotating computer disk, you have no idea how large in reality that a GB is HUGE. About 14 years ago I was selling a GB of IBM's SSA disks under Unix/AIX for about $1 million per GB. Disks back then were limited to 1.1 and 2.2 Mega Bytes not Giga Bytes. Also, back in 1980 I worked for a Computer MFG that sold 64 kilobytes of CACHE memory ( faster than RAM) for about $75,000.

    RAM memory prices are already dirt cheap compared to 10 years ago but they will continue to get larger, faster and cheaper plus use less power. The only reason we are still using Magnetic and FLASH memory today is because RAM is small, expensive and requires power to store information.
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    02-10-2015 11:02 AM
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