1. AC Question's Avatar
    I want to know if with the two stages of android nougat, manufacturers will update thdir devices much faster, or are is it going to take months as always?
    07-22-2016 11:52 AM
  2. anon(9072051)'s Avatar
    Expect "months as always." Nougatz may help the new crop of phones that are released in the wake of the new Nexuses to process updates more quickly & efficiently, but it can't do anything to make either OEMs or carriers more efficient at or more interested in getting those updates ready & rolled out in the first place.
  3. Sam_Gs7's Avatar
    Welcome to Android-Central app: Well If devices would be able
    to Update-Faster it remains to be seen. Supposedly that is

    The whole purpose of any New OSversion. Let's Stay
    tuned to heard more inputs on this issue. SeeYa!
    07-22-2016 12:06 PM
  4. belodion's Avatar
    Also, the updating and installation procedure itself is faster.
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    07-22-2016 12:13 PM
  5. anon(9072051)'s Avatar
    Expect "months as always." Nougatz may help the new crop of phones that are released in the wake of the new Nexuses to process updates more quickly & efficiently, but it can't do anything to make either OEMs or carriers more efficient at or more interested in getting those updates ready & rolled out in the first place.
    Sam_Gs7 likes this.
    07-22-2016 02:16 PM
  6. racedog's Avatar
    Expect "months as always." Nougatz may help the new crop of phones that are released in the wake of the new Nexuses to process updates more quickly & efficiently, but it can't do anything to make either OEMs or carriers more efficient at or more interested in getting those updates ready & rolled out in the first place.
    Not exactly true, part of Nougat is a change to Android itself that allows some updates to be done through the play store, thereby bypassing the carriers and their delays.

    Of course, the phone must have Nougat on it and that means that, for now, it's the same old story unless you have a Nexus or other upgradeable phone.
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    07-22-2016 03:53 PM
  7. anon(9072051)'s Avatar
    Not exactly true, part of Nougat is a change to Android itself that allows some updates to be done through the play store, thereby bypassing the carriers and their delays.
    Actually it'd be kind of cool to see more updates (especially security updates--though I guess that might seem a little weird) rolled out through the Play store since that train never stops rolling. But any update that could even be rumored to affect the way a phone might behave on a carrier network is going to get red flagged by carriers, Nougatz or no Nougatz.
    07-22-2016 10:54 PM
  8. Clocks's Avatar
    Not exactly true, part of Nougat is a change to Android itself that allows some updates to be done through the play store, thereby bypassing the carriers and their delays.

    Of course, the phone must have Nougat on it and that means that, for now, it's the same old story unless you have a Nexus or other upgradeable phone.
    Do you have an article about nougat enabling play store updates for things that can't be updated that way today? Never heard of that and gave been following pretty closely. Also nothing on Google about it.
    07-23-2016 09:51 AM
  9. racedog's Avatar
    Do you have an article about nougat enabling play store updates for things that can't be updated that way today? Never heard of that and gave been following pretty closely. Also nothing on Google about it.
    I read that in article not long ago. Google is anxious to get some control on the fragmentation that has happened with Android and coming up with a way to segment Android into parts that are.accessible to OEM's si they can put they own spin on it yet keeping other critical parts available to Google and not OEM's would allow Google to out out updates via the Play Store and not be hindered by OEM inability to do anything in a timely fashion.

    I don't remember where it was that I read this, it might have even been an article here by one of the staff writers. You might be able to Google the subject and find it that way.
    07-23-2016 10:39 AM
  10. LeoRex's Avatar
    coming up with a way to segment Android into parts that are.accessible to OEM's si they can put they own spin on it yet keeping other critical parts available to Google and not OEM's.
    That's precisely what Google is trying to do. They are trying to compartmentalize Android so the core OS, where just about every one of the security patches affect, will be standardized and OEMs will have no reason to open it up. They can add all their stuff in a higher level... Touchwiz will still be Touchwiz, Sense will still be Sense, etc.

    But you can lead a horse to water... It's like there new app data backup API... Google can make something available, but OEMs and app devs need to buy in. Google has been more lenient in the past, and they look like they may start getting a little bit more forceful.
    07-28-2016 10:10 PM
  11. jlmemt's Avatar
    Google just pushed out keyboard updates that say they are compatible with N. On a brand new Motorola phone on Verizon, noted to be a black hole.
    07-29-2016 01:18 PM
  12. hallux's Avatar
    Google just pushed out keyboard updates that say they are compatible with N. On a brand new Motorola phone on Verizon, noted to be a black hole.
    That's because the keyboard has been a Play Store update for a year or better now. If the Google keyboard is installed on your device, you would get that update regardless of manufacturer and perceived manufacturer support for the new OS as those release notes are generic.
    07-31-2016 03:51 PM

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