07-20-2011 12:51 AM
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  1. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    Finally get netflix on some android devices and now: 7.99 for streaming PLUS 7.99 for DVD rental. Making the new price from the last jump up to 15.98 a month.
    07-12-2011 06:43 PM
  2. yodatom10's Avatar
    I second that it sucks but in my mind still worth it
    07-12-2011 08:17 PM
  3. DenverRalphy's Avatar
    The cheap price was really nice, and it's a bummer to see it go. But honestly it was a steal at it's original price (but then I'm a Netflix user who always has 3 of the DVDs in the house at any given time). IMHO, still worth it at the new price.
    07-12-2011 08:59 PM
  4. dchawk81's Avatar
    I got that email today and my first thought was "thanks, Verizon!"

    Fortunately I don't stream so I'll end up saving 2 bucks a month until I burn through my DVD queue...then cancel.
    07-12-2011 09:26 PM
  5. EvilMonkey's Avatar
    Still the best deal around. The streaming has always been "free" as part of the disc plans (I was a subscriber when they added it with no additional cost to me for it, so I have always just considered it a free part of what I was already paying for)

    I'm pretty sure almost everyone fully expected them to separate streaming and discs eventually, so it's not really a shock.....although the interwebz is alight with "OMG GOING TO CANCEL NETFLIX" posts. I'm sure in a few days it'll all be back to normal and Netflix will be just fine.

    I'm personally glad they finally separated the plans. Choices FTW. Now if you don't want streaming, you can get a disc only plan (for cheaper than you were paying before), or if you want both, you pay a premium and the costs (hopefully) go to acquiring more content for both discs and streaming.
    07-12-2011 09:31 PM
  6. vferrari's Avatar
    I would be OK with this if there was a step increase in available streaming content commensurate with the 60% step increase in fees. Sadly, though, this is not the case - still the same meager streaming selection, but we are now paying more for it.
    07-12-2011 10:42 PM
  7. Bwangster12's Avatar
    I don't know if I have a valid argument, but here it is:

    When I read about the Netflix price changes, I immediately went into my TV service provider's website and looked at the cost of adding an on demand package for movies. The cheapest addons I could find were like the Showtime package or the Stars package for like 11.99 a month. From there, you can do movie packages for double or triple that price a month.

    The way I am starting to look at it... for "on demand" streaming movies and 1 at a time DVDs mailed to your house, $15.99 is still a great price. Yes, you really need to go through 2-3 DVDs a month to justify the $15.99 price, but then if you did the streaming part is free.
    07-13-2011 08:01 AM
  8. ekz13's Avatar
    sorry for the hijack, but I am curious since you're all actual users, is it possible to "save for later" or "stream and hold" a movie.. reason being is I ride a train and can't get signal most of the way, so I wanted to sign up for this, stream the movie into a buffer/cache/queue type thing and then watch it on the train (with no signal)

    or is it possible only to watch with signal?
    07-13-2011 09:21 AM
  9. zmann's Avatar
    Netflix said a year ago they are trying to eliminate the physical dvd and have just streaming. My guess is this is the first step in that process, trying to get most of us to just cancel on our own. Makes perfect sense, i am canceling my dvd part of my account and while they will lose that dollar a month they are getting from me at the moment, they will no longer need dvd's for me so it is a even Steven exchange. I am thinking the new plans (charging for 2 separate accounts basically) are so absurd, it is quite obvious they want you to keep the streaming and cancel the dvd portion. Again I would not believe anything I just said if i did not read the article almost a year ago that they want to do away with dvd's.
    07-13-2011 09:37 AM
  10. tcat007's Avatar
    Cr@p... I tend to like the newer DVD's mailed. I can get 10 per month if I watch quickly, but typically 8 per month getting 1 at a time. I seldom watch streaming anymore with all the DISH stuff I get (Sling Adapter)... and I like streaming Sling better than streaming NF. I'll probably just drop to the $7.99 DVDs... then be real PO'd when they drop that a year from now.... kind of like how I got screwed out of Dish "Absolute" (all HD for $29.99)... and now VM $25 plan (yeah maybe grandfathered, but I bet a year from now, NOT) Corporations got to keep making profits so their stocks stay at unrealistic heights.... I'm guessing this will all bite them in the a$$ someday.
    07-13-2011 11:38 AM
  11. Ricky Babalu's Avatar
    I would be OK with this if there was a step increase in available streaming content commensurate with the 60% step increase in fees. Sadly, though, this is not the case - still the same meager streaming selection, but we are now paying more for it.
    +1 Very dissappointed with the streaming selection, so much so that I am thinking of canceling.
    07-13-2011 11:51 AM
  12. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    I read an article that stated that netflix is doing this because they are going to be poring my money into getting digital licenses for new content. I'm alright with this as long as it happens. But I've made up my decision.

    7.99 for Streaming: Check
    7.99 For DVD: Drop
    11.99 for Blockbuster in the Mail: Check

    Yes, it's going to be more money than I was spending but only 4 dollars more than what it's going to be now. And it's worth it in my opinion. I really enjoy just watching the streaming content on Netflix. I always seem to find something I enjoy. But don't want to lose the DVD's when I do want them.

    1- Blockbuster has the movies a month before Netflix - $1
    2- Blockbuster has bluray in that price: $1
    3- Block buster allows you to rent games (Which when I'm not looking for movies I will do): $1
    4- Blockbuster allows 5 in store exchanges a month. $1

    There's your extra $4 dollar break down of why I'm making the switch, lol.

    And then in the future if I get bored with their streaming: for the same price of both services I can get 3 DVD/Games from blockbuster out at a time.
    07-13-2011 12:26 PM
  13. zmann's Avatar
    In same article I read last year they said when they finnally do Those transition there would be more content,, newer movies. Basically the stuff you get instant dvd form will be available threw streaming.

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    07-13-2011 12:51 PM
  14. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    Which is why ill keep streaming for now. But an extra 4 bux for blockbuster over the Netflix DVD package makes sense for me. I don't rent many DVDs. Just stream. But want it.

    So ill get games through the mail. Then go to the store and get a movie when it comes out and I wanna see it.

    I got a movie last month and just watched part of it last night. So that'll work better for me.
    07-13-2011 12:56 PM
  15. cadzilla74's Avatar
    Netflix has bigger problems not of their own making. With competition for content from Amazon and others Netflix will be forced to pay more to studios to get new releases in a timely manner. That is part of the price increase. Expect to get "less for more" as the other shoe drops and Netflix gets outbid for first dibs on content from Sony Pictures or another studio.

    At some point you'll need subscriptions to Netflix, Amazon, Google and who knows what else to be able to see all new releases in ANY format.
    07-13-2011 01:33 PM
  16. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    Netflix has bigger problems not of their own making. With competition for content from Amazon and others Netflix will be forced to pay more to studios to get new releases in a timely manner. That is part of the price increase. Expect to get "less for more" as the other shoe drops and Netflix gets outbid for first dibs on content from Sony Pictures or another studio.

    At some point you'll need subscriptions to Netflix, Amazon, Google and who knows what else to be able to see all new releases in ANY format.
    I wouldn't mind paying 20 a month for new releases on demand instead of through DVD. The day they are released.
    07-13-2011 01:35 PM
  17. EvilMonkey's Avatar
    1- Blockbuster has the movies a month before Netflix - $1
    2- Blockbuster has bluray in that price: $1
    3- Block buster allows you to rent games (Which when I'm not looking for movies I will do): $1
    4- Blockbuster allows 5 in store exchanges a month. $1
    Just FYI, the DVD+Blu-Ray (disc only) plans at Netflix are cheaper than BB, and :

    • Blockbuster shipping usually takes at least 2 (sometimes 3) days each way, depending on where your distribution center is at. Netflix is typically 1 day (never heard of anyone that took longer than that on a regular basis)
    • Blockbuster will frequently not ship a movie the same day they receive one.
    • Blockbuster will frequently wait 2 or 3 days after receiving a movie before they ship you a new one.
    • Blockbuster will ship movies out of order (annoying when disc 2 of a series ships before disc 1).
    • Blockbuster does not work/ship on Saturday, making it one less day each week that they will ship a movie compared to Netflix (they also handle holidays much worse)
    • Blockbuster is Blockbuster and leaves a gross sticky substance on your soul. Plus people will point at your BB card and laugh at you


    Regardless, if you go BB, I hope it works out. I've tried them 3 separate times over the last few years, and they have always sucked horribly, especially after the "new customer" honeymoon is over.

    You might want to also check to make sure your store is not closing. Another round of leases expire the end of July.

    I will not try them again...especially now that there is no store anywhere close to me (the closest one is over 100 miles away).

    Netflix + Redbox + Vudu FTW, in my book. Blockbuster can burn. Burn with fire.
    07-13-2011 01:46 PM
  18. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    Just FYI, the DVD+Blu-Ray plans at Netflix are cheaper than BB, and :

    • Blockbuster shipping usually takes at least 2 (sometimes 3) days each way, depending on where your distribution center is at. Netflix is typically 1 day (never heard of anyone that took longer than that on a regular basis)
    • Blockbuster will frequently not ship a movie the same day they receive one.
    • Blockbuster will frequently wait 2 or 3 days after receiving a movie before they ship you a new one.
    • Blockbuster will ship movies out of order (annoying when disc 2 of a series ships before disc 1).
    • Blockbuster does not work/ship on Saturday, making it one less day each week that they will ship a movie compared to Netflix (they also handle holidays much worse)
    • Blockbuster is Blockbuster and leaves a gross sticky substance on your soul. Plus people will point at your BB card and laugh at you


    Regardless, if you go BB, I hope it works out. I've tried them 3 separate times over the last few years, and they have always sucked horribly, especially after the "new customer" honeymoon is over.

    You might want to also check to make sure your store is not closing. Another round of leases expire the end of July.

    I will not try them again...especially now that there is no store anywhere close to me (the closest one is over 100 miles away).

    Netflix + Redbox + Vudu FTW, in my book. Blockbuster can burn. Burn with fire.
    What was your issue with BB?
    07-13-2011 01:47 PM
  19. EvilMonkey's Avatar
    I wouldn't mind paying 20 a month for new releases on demand instead of through DVD. The day they are released.
    This won't happen. Ever. Everyone else charges $4-6 for a one view of one movie for a 24 hour period (look at your PPV, VOD options like you cable/sat provider. Look at Vudu. Look at iTunes. Look at Zune).

    Netflix will never be able to offer a buffet plan for new releases at any reasonable cost. The studios won't allow it. It still amazes me people think they should get the day-and-date releases for $7.99/month.

    The buffet plan is cheap. To offer new releases, they'd have to price it more than cable is, or go to a VOD model, and that market is saturated by everyone else.

    The only company even making an attempt at a buffet plan is Amazon, and they have the same issue (no new releases).
    07-13-2011 01:51 PM
  20. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    This won't happen. Ever. Everyone else charges $4-6 for a one view of one movie for a 24 hour period (look at your PPV, VOD options like you cable/sat provider. Look at Vudu. Look at iTunes. Look at Zune).

    Netflix will never be able to offer a buffet plan for new releases at any reasonable cost. The studios won't allow it. It still amazes me people think they should get the day-and-date releases for $7.99/month.

    The buffet plan is cheap. To offer new releases, they'd have to price it more than cable is, or go to a VOD model, and that market is saturated by everyone else.

    The only company even making an attempt at a buffet plan is Amazon, and they have the same issue (no new releases).
    I'm happy with what I get from them now. I like the older stuff better.
    07-13-2011 02:01 PM
  21. EvilMonkey's Avatar
    What was your issue with BB?
    Besides all of the above? 20+ years of screwing me (and everyone else) over and over again just because they had a monopoly (more or less) for movie rentals.

    Plus, the first time I joined the disc-by-mail program, I had 3 discs by mail, unlimited exchanges (that did NOT count against my online rentals: in other words, I took it to the store, got an exchange, and another shipped from my online queue at the same time), 3 coupons/month for a free movie, and I could exchange for video games.

    That lasted about 3 weeks before they took all of it away. Exchanges now count against your online rental (they won't ship a new movie until you return the exchange), couldn't exchange for games, no more coupons, etc. Combine my frustration with that and then their delayed shipping times (and insistence on acknowledging a return and then waiting one or two days before shipping another) and I left.

    Tried them again a couple times as Netflix raised prices, added the BD charge, and more recently (earlier this year) with the 28 day delay and BB supposedly getting some more catalog releases and the experience was the same.

    All-in-all, I ended up with significantly less discs (I get about 18-20 disc from Netflix every month, and I was getting 12-14 from BB (even with in-store exchanges). And on the days I don't have a disc from Netflix, I can stream something.

    Maybe it'll improve now that BB as a corporation is dead and owned by Dish, but I'm not holding my breath.

    All in all, Netflix has been wonderful to me. I watch about 20-25 movies a month between discs and streaming. I've never had a delay in shipping, if they have to ship from a non-local center (which is rare) they send a free bonus disc, in the rare cases I've had a complaint (such as a damaged disc), I've always just called and got a bonus disc or something taken off my bill. The streaming rocks IMO (PS3 so I'm getting 1080p/5.1 on some content and I've never had an issue with the amount of content. I frequently refer to a thread at AVS that lists many of the good movies people find (link)

    Of course, I can see where people are disappointed with the streaming if they are expecting every movie ever to be on there (including new releases) for a measely $8/month....and I think NF's advertising regarding it is a bit misleading in that regard. And of course not everyone has an ISP capable of delivering the highest quality or the best device (I shudder when I think of people using Wii's to stream it, for example....ugh).

    However, I think it's more designed for you to browse for movies to watch, and most people think they should have a movie in mind then look to see if it's available (like someone will say to themselves "I feel like watching Ghostbusters" then they look and it's not available). Whereas if you use threads like the one I link to above to find the movies that are worth watching, it's well-worthwhile. Yeah, there's a lot of crap on there, that's to be sure, but there are plenty of good movies too, and if I haven't seen it, it's new to me.

    My two cents (and my $4 which will be going to Netflix shortly to keep my 3 discs-at-a-time + streaming)
    07-13-2011 02:05 PM
  22. tcat007's Avatar
    If they would drop the DVD by mail, and move ALL those DVD's to streaming, I'd be happy to pay the $16... but I can never find anything (anymore) streaming I haven't seen. If I search Rotten Tomatoes for current stuff, then search in DVD's at NF, I'll find new titles to add. Happy to get at least 2 per week in the mail. They'll be losing $2 from me mid August.
    07-13-2011 02:07 PM
  23. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    Besides all of the above? 20+ years of screwing me (and everyone else) over and over again just because they had a monopoly (more or less) for movie rentals.

    Plus, the first time I joined the disc-by-mail program, I had 3 discs by mail, unlimited exchanges (that did NOT count against my online rentals: in other words, I took it to the store, got an exchange, and another shipped from my online queue at the same time), 3 coupons/month for a free movie, and I could exchange for video games.

    That lasted about 3 weeks before they took all of it away. Exchanges now count against your online rental (they won't ship a new movie until you return the exchange), couldn't exchange for games, no more coupons, etc. Combine my frustration with that and then their delayed shipping times (and insistence on acknowledging a return and then waiting one or two days before shipping another) and I left.

    Tried them again a couple times as Netflix raised prices, added the BD charge, and more recently (earlier this year) with the 28 day delay and some more catalog releases and the experience was the same.

    Maybe it'll improve now that BB as a corporation is dead and owned by Dish, but I'm not holding my breath.

    All in all, Netflix has been wonderful to me. I watch about 20-25 movies a month between discs and streaming. I've never had a delay in shipping, if they have to ship from a non-local center (which is rare) they send a free bonus disc, in the rare cases I've had a complaint (such as a damaged disc), I've always just called and got a bonus disc or something taken off my bill. The streaming rocks IMO (PS3 so I'm getting 1080p/5.1 on some content and I've never had an issue with content. I frequently refer to a thread at AVS that lists many of the good movies people find (link)

    Of course, I can see where people are disappointed with the streaming if they are expecting every movie ever to be on there (including new releases) for a measely $8/month....and I think NF's advertising regarding it is a bit misleading in that regard.

    However, I think it's more designed for you to browse for movies to watch, and most people think they should have a movie in mind then look to see if it's available (like someone will say to themselves "I feel like watching Ghostbusters" then they look and it's not available). Whereas if you use threads like the one I link to above to find the movies that are worth watching, it's well-worthwhile. Yeah, there's a lot of crap on there, that's to be sure, but there are plenty of good movies too, and if I haven't seen it, it's new to me.

    My two cents.
    Hmm. Well I'll give it a try and if I have the same experiences as you mention I'll go back to netflix or ditch DVD's all together and go to redbox. We'll see what happens.
    07-13-2011 02:09 PM
  24. EvilMonkey's Avatar
    Hmm. Well I'll give it a try and if I have the same experiences as you mention I'll go back to netflix or ditch DVD's all together and go to redbox. We'll see what happens.
    No hurt in trying. You might luck out and there will be a distribution center near you so you won't have 2 day shipping (if you're that lucky) and I know some other people have had better experiences (although the delayed shipping out of discs seem to be a pretty common problem). Also, maybe all your stores around you won't close.

    Regardless, I'm sure as a "new" customer, you'll be treated great for awhile, as is typically the case at both Netflix and Blockbuster to "reel you in" then once you're a "loyal" customer, you start taking backseat to the new customers that are on trial.
    07-13-2011 02:20 PM
  25. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    No hurt in trying. You might luck out and there will be a distribution center near you so you won't have 2 day shipping (if you're that lucky) and I know some other people have had better experiences (although the delayed shipping out of discs seem to be a pretty common problem). Also, maybe all your stores around you won't close.

    Regardless, I'm sure as a "new" customer, you'll be treated great for awhile, as is typically the case at both Netflix and Blockbuster to "reel you in" then once you're a "loyal" customer, you start taking backseat to the new customers that are on trial.
    I haven't had any problems with Netflix and I've had them for 1-2 years now. Only had one DVD not play correctly and they took care of it promptly. So if I do get any hassles from Blockbuster I will definitely go back to Netflix if I decide to keep a subscription based DVD rental.
    07-13-2011 02:22 PM
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