Llama - Who's Using It and Any Good Examples?
- Thank you for your quick reply, but it is not exactly what I am searching for. I try to explain:
The Waze (and Maps) is able to navigate in the background as well (only voice navigation). It means, if I close the screen or I start (f.e.) the camera application, the Waze runs in the background and says: turn right-turn left ...etc. Using your solution the Llama thinks : Navigation has been closed and the Llama switches off the mobile data. But the Waze is still in the memory and wants to navigate...
I want to turn off the mobile data when I really close the navigation using the "Exit" button.10-27-2014 11:28 AMLike 0 - Thank you for your quick reply, but it is not exactly what I am searching for. I try to explain:
The Waze (and Maps) is able to navigate in the background as well (only voice navigation). It means, if I close the screen or I start (f.e.) the camera application, the Waze runs in the background and says: turn right-turn left ...etc. Using your solution the Llama thinks : Navigation has been closed and the Llama switches off the mobile data. But the navigation is still in the background and wants to navigate...
I want to turn off the mobile data when I really close the navigation using the "Exit" button.
Condition: active app Waze AND GPS on
Event: enable mobile data
(and the corresponding queued event to turn it off)
Then this event/queued sub-event would fire as you manually turn GPS on and off.10-27-2014 11:35 AMLike 0 - Sorry, I didn't realize that wasn't a condition Llama monitors, plus it was just an example. The "co-condition" just needs to be one that would be present while Waze is on. So it can be something like phone is charging/unplugged, BT device connected (if you wear a BT earpiece while driving, for example,) something with NFC tags, etc.10-27-2014 12:00 PMLike 0
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Inability of Llama to detect a process running in background seems to be a recurring problem for may people, especially with gps applications because Llama doesn't know whether gps is on either. The best I've come up so far is instead of turning gps off when an app stops or vice versa, I'd create a 'switch' that kills the app, gps, mobile data, and whatever else by a single tap. I'd figured, if you need tap tap tap to exit out of an app then gps, data, whathaveyou follow automatically, it would be as fast if not faster to tap on the kill button that takes care of everything.10-28-2014 04:49 AMLike 2 - Feel free to hit that 'thanks' button
I remember kurokirasama writing similar things about queued events before, but it never made sense to me (the part that a queued event without wait will WAIT forever until all conditions are met) until I realize that a queued event MUST run once before being expunged. On the other hand, a queued event WITH wait gets canceled (and expunged) as soon as one of its conditions tests false, WITHOUT waiting for its wait time (hence, the same behavior as the delay-with-cancel action). It's very counter-intuitive and I wrote this here so I can find it later if I ever get confused again. I think the author of the app should change the term 'wait' to 'delay' to be consistent with regular events.
Anyways.
The kill switch idea for gps and apps is a bonus.10-29-2014 01:08 AMLike 0 - Any chance someone could help me as I'm new to Llama?
I just don't know what to change in order to make this happen.
When I am at work I have spotty cell signal (and occasional wifi signal). Therefore my battery is dead within about 3 hours. However whenever I venture by a window I get text messages, etc. Is there a way to simply reduce how often my phone looks for a cell signal at work, but then keep the setting as normal when I am away from work/at home? I see that I can reduce cell polling, but it doesn't let me set a lower rate at work and a higher rate at home.
I don't want to completely disable it, because occasionally I walk by a window and get my text messages, etc.
Thank you all for your help,
tim10-30-2014 02:14 PMLike 0 - Event name: Disable rotation
conditions: active application-----> app stopped or in background----> browser
action: screen rotation------> no rotation11-01-2014 05:25 AMLike 0 - Event name: disable rotation
Condition: active application ->app stopped or in background---> camera
Action: screen rotation -> no rotation
just repeat for other apps...... so, when you close the camera or other apps.... screen rotation will be disable....
tell me if it work for you... it work like a charm on my phone...11-01-2014 05:34 AMLike 0 - I use Llama to switch on my bluetooth as soon as it disconnects from my WiFi at home. That way, is I leave for work in the mornings my bluetooth is switched on to connect to my car radio.
I also do the auto-rotate thing for certain apps, but have also added screen brightness to 100% when opening apps like gallery, Documents and YouTube.11-02-2014 02:44 AMLike 0 - Hi!
Please help me to do the following things:
1. Set action on alarm ringing. No, standard Alarm event that uses NEXT_ALARM_FORMATTED isn't good, because I use Sleep as Android app, so time differs. Alarm is always played in certain time interval and with same music file.
2. I want to use some autoresponder application based on location. Currently I use "Autoresponder / SMS Scheduler": it sends SMS on incoming SMS/call depending on time. I want some way to just turn it on/off, or any other application with Llama/Tasker/Locale plugin will do.
3. (Suppose it's not possible at all, but maybe someone knows a hack) Turn on/off Samsung Ultra Power Saving mode.
I have SL4A & Python for Android installed, but don't know if they can help with these.
Thanx in advance!11-03-2014 06:27 AMLike 0 - Hi,
I would also like to use the 'near home' area acrive when near cells at home, with wifi=on/data=on/BT=on and then when connected to my home wifi switch to 'home' area with wifi=on/data=off/BT=off
This I want to do because it takes quit long to get out of the home cells and I want to switch my BT on as soon as I leave the house.
Can you send me a detailed setup so I can get mine working ? PM is ok for me.
I already got the 'home' area defined with my wifi networks.
Also my BT does not want to connect all the time when I get into my car. A nice Android bug in the 4.x versions of some phones. When in my car and BT did not get connected I can force it to connect by switching off BT and then back on after some seconds. Would be great if I could do this with Llama.
Any help is greatl appreciated on this!!
Grtz,
Dirk11-03-2014 09:46 AMLike 0 - Any chance someone could help me as I'm new to Llama?
I just don't know what to change in order to make this happen.
When I am at work I have spotty cell signal (and occasional wifi signal). Therefore my battery is dead within about 3 hours. However whenever I venture by a window I get text messages, etc. Is there a way to simply reduce how often my phone looks for a cell signal at work, but then keep the setting as normal when I am away from work/at home? I see that I can reduce cell polling, but it doesn't let me set a lower rate at work and a higher rate at home.
I don't want to completely disable it, because occasionally I walk by a window and get my text messages, etc.
Thank you all for your help,
tim
I always thought cell polling sets how often Llama polls cell info from the OS and has nothing to do with how often the phone looks for towers. I don't use that option at all, so I could be wrong.
Since your smartphone is a cell phone, if you are in an area with weak (or no) signals it works extra hard trying to find better signals. Nothing in Llama settings should change that behavior. As far as I know the only way to stop it is to put your phone in airplane mode. I was experimenting it a little myself recently and below seems to work fine.
Conditions: airplane mode off, signal strength goes below -113dBm, screen turns off.
Actions: enable airplane mode, queue another event "airplane mode off".
Advanced: delay for 5 min, cancel if conditions change.
Queued event "airplane mode off"
wait for 25 min, disable airplane mode.
The queued event disables airplane mode, that will trigger the original event. So, this is a self sustaining loop as long as your signal is below -113dBm.
You can adjust the signal strength, delay & wait time to suit your needs. The delay determines how long airplane mode is off, and wait determines how long it's in airplane mode.11-10-2014 05:19 AMLike 3 -
- So, when you reduce cell polling in Llama, does your battery last longer at work?
I always thought cell polling sets how often Llama polls cell info from the OS and has nothing to do with how often the phone looks for towers. I don't use that option at all, so I could be wrong.
Since your smartphone is a cell phone, if you are in an area with weak (or no) signals it works extra hard trying to find better signals. Nothing in Llama settings should change that behavior. As far as I know the only way to stop it is to put your phone in airplane mode. I was experimenting it a little myself recently and below seems to work fine.
Conditions: airplane mode off, signal strength goes below -113dBm, screen turns off.
Actions: enable airplane mode, queue another event "airplane mode off".
Advanced: delay for 5 min, cancel if conditions change.
Queued event "airplane mode off"
wait for 25 min, disable airplane mode.
The queued event disables airplane mode, that will trigger the original event. So, this is a self sustaining loop as long as your signal is below -113dBm.
You can adjust the signal strength, delay & wait time to suit your needs. The delay determines how long airplane mode is off, and wait determines how long it's in airplane mode.
One question the -113dBm that you suggest means that you already have no connection at all or that the connection is just really low (1 bar)?
thanks in advance11-21-2014 06:51 AMLike 0 - Love Llama! One question - probably easy to answer, but I'm too dumb to find the setting. I have a profile that does the following:
When Bluetooth Device Detaches
Screen Timeout = 30sec
Screen Lock = Enabled
Profile = Loud
What I would like to have this event do is rather than set the profile to loud would be to poll the cell towers once and set the profile based on my location. All of the location polling events that I can find change the frequency of the polling. They don't just poll once to determine my location. I just want it to do it once when the event fires. Any ideas?
Thanks!11-21-2014 02:44 PMLike 0 - It was suggested by Llama himself. If you choose the signal strength condition (or ? next to it) you will see it.
An exact value there isn't important. Distinction between not connecting and barely connecting is arbitrary.
Your phone can measure the exact dBm value (whatever it stands for) at any given time, but whether your phone can function as a phone under that signal strength depends on your hardware, software, hearing, and patience (and of the person you are speaking to).
Experiment and find what works for you.shinra00 likes this.11-22-2014 05:39 AMLike 1 - Love Llama! One question - probably easy to answer, but I'm too dumb to find the setting. I have a profile that does the following:
When Bluetooth Device Detaches
Screen Timeout = 30sec
Screen Lock = Enabled
Profile = Loud
What I would like to have this event do is rather than set the profile to loud would be to poll the cell towers once and set the profile based on my location. All of the location polling events that I can find change the frequency of the polling. They don't just poll once to determine my location. I just want it to do it once when the event fires. Any ideas?
Thanks!
Even if you do need cell polling, you only have to enable it in the settings. You don't need cell polling action in your event. As you said, it only changes the frequency of polling.shinra00 likes this.11-22-2014 06:21 AMLike 1 - It was suggested by Llama himself. If you choose the signal strength condition (or ? next to it) you will see it.
An exact value there isn't important. Distinction between not connecting and barely connecting is arbitrary.
Your phone can measure the exact dBm value (whatever it stands for) at any given time, but whether your phone can function as a phone under that signal strength depends on your hardware, software, hearing, and patience (and of the person you are speaking to).
Experiment and find what works for you.
EDIT: just learned that airplane mode won´t disable wifii'm so happy!
thank you for all the patience and the help given in this forum buggy_droid and raino11-22-2014 07:06 AMLike 0 - Hey what's up. Just joining the party. This thread is full of goodies. I very much appreciate everyone's participation. I've got a pretty cool event which some of you may find useful. And a couple of questions...
The event I use takes advantage of the AlarmPad app, and the fact that the Locale Plugin comes with some built in actions for it. I have a llama event which sets off an alarm, at the beginning of any Calendar event which has the word Llama in the title. It's simple and extremely useful, because the only thing missing from Google Calendar is alarms. I keep an alarm in AlarmPad called "Llama" which is set a year into the future and never deletes. So it's always there, and I don't have to rename it because AlarmPad is set to display the day's calendar events anyway, so I always know exactly what the alarm is waking me up for. It looks like this:
Condition: Calendar even named "Llama"
Action: Locale Plugin - AlarmPad run action (beta): Run: Llama Alarm
That's it. It adds the one feature I really want from Calendar. The only limitation is that the alarm goes off exactly when the Calendar Event starts. So if I want to, say, wake up two hours before a doctor's appointment, I have to set the Calendar Event to start two hours before my appointment and then put the actual appointment time in the title, or notes of the entry. I'm wondering if any of you could think of a way to set this up so that Llama sets off the alarm before the calendar event actually starts. So if I have a doctor's appointment at noon, Llama triggers AlarmPad to wake me up at 10. I can't figure out a way to do it.
The other problem is that I'd like for the event to be triggered by GoogleNow (or Keep or Calendar) reminders. I'd like to say "Google, remind me to pick up my dry cleaning tomorrow at noon, Llama", and have Llama grab that reminder the same way it does a Calendar event. It could make the reminder system amazing! I hope ya'll have some ideas. And again, this thread is awesome...Thanks!!!!11-25-2014 11:49 PMLike 0 - Hey what's up. Just joining the party. This thread is full of goodies. I very much appreciate everyone's participation. I've got a pretty cool event which some of you may find useful. And a couple of questions...
The event I use takes advantage of the AlarmPad app, and the fact that the Locale Plugin comes with some built in actions for it. I have a llama event which sets off an alarm, at the beginning of any Calendar event which has the word Llama in the title. It's simple and extremely useful, because the only thing missing from Google Calendar is alarms. I keep an alarm in AlarmPad called "Llama" which is set a year into the future and never deletes. So it's always there, and I don't have to rename it because AlarmPad is set to display the day's calendar events anyway, so I always know exactly what the alarm is waking me up for. It looks like this:
Condition: Calendar even named "Llama"
Action: Locale Plugin - AlarmPad run action (beta): Run: Llama Alarm
That's it. It adds the one feature I really want from Calendar. The only limitation is that the alarm goes off exactly when the Calendar Event starts. So if I want to, say, wake up two hours before a doctor's appointment, I have to set the Calendar Event to start two hours before my appointment and then put the actual appointment time in the title, or notes of the entry. I'm wondering if any of you could think of a way to set this up so that Llama sets off the alarm before the calendar event actually starts. So if I have a doctor's appointment at noon, Llama triggers AlarmPad to wake me up at 10. I can't figure out a way to do it.
The other problem is that I'd like for the event to be triggered by GoogleNow (or Keep or Calendar) reminders. I'd like to say "Google, remind me to pick up my dry cleaning tomorrow at noon, Llama", and have Llama grab that reminder the same way it does a Calendar event. It could make the reminder system amazing! I hope ya'll have some ideas. And again, this thread is awesome...Thanks!!!!11-25-2014 11:52 PMLike 0 - Hello, synesthesiac. Cool trick.
To make calendar reminders into alarms, I use this: CalendarAlarmHelper at Google Play store
Just realized that my answer doesn't involve Llama at all...
Well, about half the stuff I say here don't, eitherThe other problem is that I'd like for the event to be triggered by GoogleNow (or Keep or Calendar) reminders. I'd like to say "Google, remind me to pick up my dry cleaning tomorrow at noon, Llama", and have Llama grab that reminder the same way it does a Calendar event. It could make the reminder system amazing! I hope ya'll have some ideas. And again, this thread is awesome...Thanks!!!!
Then whatever alarm/reminder app you are using will pick up on the calendar event.
Once again, Llama has run out on me here.11-29-2014 10:47 PMLike 0
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