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  1. MiddleFraz's Avatar
    Hello. Thanks for supporting a great app, and particularly, thanks for supporting it on Windows 10 mobile as well. (Completely awesome)

    I am running a combination of Logitech Squeezeboxes (V3) and soft (squeezelite on picocore).

    Is there a way to access the mysqueezebox streams (apps and radio) away from home? Squeeze player on the phone and Squeeze control running it? Or do I need a LMS entity running to provide that?

    Album art from the radio streams is really nice, and the controls are so nicely thought out. Thanks again.
    01-20-2017 08:23 PM
  2. wayne@angrygoat's Avatar
    You can have Squeeze Ctrl connect directly to MySqueezebox.com. I don't own Squeeze Player but you should be able to connect directly to MySqueezebox.com by manually entering the address. If it doesn't work, there's chance that the author of that app hard coded it to not connect to MySB, because Logitech doesn't really like software players to do so since you're using their resources with something they didn't make.
    01-22-2017 05:56 PM
  3. niconum's Avatar
    Hello (Wayne),

    I have Squeeze Ctrl and SB Player on a Leagoo M5 with Android Marshmallow. This is a fairly cheap phone which does data over 3G only (using UMTS frequency bands WCDMA-IMT-2000 and WCDMA-GSM-900) and I'm trying to get streaming audio working from mysqueezebox.com while I'm on the move in the Paris area, France.

    When I'm on 3G, SB Player connects in Low bandwidth mode (which is fine, probably). After a few minutes of streaming I either get a "command stream error" from SB Player and then "data stream ended", or I also frequently get a "no players connected" from Squeeze CTRL. When the audio dies in this way, I can usually restart the stream manually almost immediately by first selecting another favorite and then switching back to the one I was originally listening to.

    As far as you know, is having a constrant stream of audio over 3G while moving around on foot or in a car an achievable goal?

    I also get the occasional disconnect over wifi at home in SB Player high bandwidth mode against mysqueezebox.com.

    The bandwidth requirement for the radio stations I'm listening to appears to peak at 200 kbps. What I don't understand though is that when the audio dies I still appear to be using that bandwidth.

    I should point out that I do also have my own LMS server at home and that streaming the same radio stations through that seems generally more stable but I don't at this point have the ability to connect this way when I'm not home. (Reluctant to open up my network to the outside world really...but I'll do it if I have to)

    If you can suggest any troubleshooting steps, or solutions, I would be grateful.

    Thanks, Nico.
    01-23-2017 04:58 AM
  4. wayne@angrygoat's Avatar
    Hello (Wayne),

    I have Squeeze Ctrl and SB Player on a Leagoo M5 with Android Marshmallow. This is a fairly cheap phone which does data over 3G only (using UMTS frequency bands WCDMA-IMT-2000 and WCDMA-GSM-900) and I'm trying to get streaming audio working from mysqueezebox.com while I'm on the move in the Paris area, France.

    When I'm on 3G, SB Player connects in Low bandwidth mode (which is fine, probably). After a few minutes of streaming I either get a "command stream error" from SB Player and then "data stream ended", or I also frequently get a "no players connected" from Squeeze CTRL. When the audio dies in this way, I can usually restart the stream manually almost immediately by first selecting another favorite and then switching back to the one I was originally listening to.

    As far as you know, is having a constrant stream of audio over 3G while moving around on foot or in a car an achievable goal?

    I also get the occasional disconnect over wifi at home in SB Player high bandwidth mode against mysqueezebox.com.

    The bandwidth requirement for the radio stations I'm listening to appears to peak at 200 kbps. What I don't understand though is that when the audio dies I still appear to be using that bandwidth.

    I should point out that I do also have my own LMS server at home and that streaming the same radio stations through that seems generally more stable but I don't at this point have the ability to connect this way when I'm not home. (Reluctant to open up my network to the outside world really...but I'll do it if I have to)

    If you can suggest any troubleshooting steps, or solutions, I would be grateful.

    Thanks, Nico.
    As far as I know streaming through a mobile connection while moving is achievable, at least when connecting to a home server. Several users have mentioned using SB Player to connect to their home server when they're driving or running. I don't know if they are on 3G or LTE though.

    Your connection problems could simply be because of cheap hardware, your phone service, or problems with MySqueezebox.com, which is not known for stability.

    Unlike simple streaming apps, SB Player emulates a hardware Squeezebox, which requires a persistent connection between itself and the server. Occasionally messages are passed back and forth between the player and the server to keep the connection alive and to report player status to the server, even when there's no stream playing. Squeezeboxes were never designed to be used over a mobile connection and thus was never optimized for unstable and data capped connections.

    Honestly, I always thought using SB Player to connect to MySqueezebox.com was kind of redundant. You're adding an extra layer of complication to use services that have dedicated apps for the phone. You probably have a better experience using the apps. The only advantage is being able to access multiple services from one app, but unless you use a lot of different apps, I just don't really see that as a huge advantage.

    If you do decide to try streaming from home, I would suggest getting a router that has a built in VPN server. This way you can have a secure connection between your phone and your network and you wouldn't have to open up any ports.
    01-24-2017 02:03 PM
  5. Foppe's Avatar
    Squeeze ctrl starts casting to chromecast as soon as I open the app. It's driving me nuts! I cannot seem to turn off this behaviour, which leads me to believe this is a bug of some sort. I am on Nougat by the way. Anyone else with the same issue?
    02-03-2017 03:40 PM
  6. memrys's Avatar
    I just purchased the tablet version, and in fullscreen mode the panels are too wide.
    02-05-2017 09:30 AM
  7. wayne@angrygoat's Avatar
    I just purchased the tablet version, and in fullscreen mode the panels are too wide.
    What do you mean by too wide?
    02-06-2017 01:44 AM
  8. vinc3hh's Avatar
    The automatic casting seems to be bug (or maybe future feature?) Google introduced in a recent update to Google Home or maybe Google Play: https://productforums.google.com/for...st/00b79rIKacA

    Rebooting the phone may help or uninstalling Google Home could possibly help too.

    I think it only affects some versions of Android. I don't experience it on my Pixel.

    Hello,

    Same problem here (Galaxy S6 android 6.0.1). Each time I open the app, it automatically connects to chromecast and show just a big picture on my TV.

    I try to uninstall Google home without success, automatic casting still working.

    Can you provide a option to disabling chromecast support in your app ? I agree that is a chromecast bug. But a chromecast support without sound for a audio app does not make sense.

    Thanks !
    02-06-2017 02:34 AM
  9. wayne@angrygoat's Avatar
    Hello,

    Same problem here (Galaxy S6 android 6.0.1). Each time I open the app, it automatically connects to chromecast and show just a big picture on my TV.

    I try to uninstall Google home without success, automatic casting still working.

    Can you provide a option to disabling chromecast support in your app ? I agree that is a chromecast bug. But a chromecast support without sound for a audio app does not make sense.

    Thanks !
    Chromecast support was added at the request of a user, so it makes sense to at least one person.

    Chromecast support is hooked into the code in multiple places and putting a switch to turn it off is more difficult than it seems. Since the bug seems to be triggered merely by initializing code that has to do with Chromecast, the switch will have to stop the app from even touching the Chromecast code. In addition, the bug does not occur on any of my devices, so I can't pinpoint which particular routine is causing the problem. Quite frankly it would be easier to completely remove Chromecast support than to put in a switch.

    I'm just going to wait it out. I'm guessing that when Android Wear 2.0 is officially released (which is any day now), there will be a slew of updates to all the Google support code which would hopefully fix this problem.
    02-06-2017 04:08 AM
  10. jwittmann's Avatar
    Hello,

    I have a problem with the 3rd Party Spotify Plug-In from Triode. When I search e.g. for an artist, click on the artist and want to play a mix of the artist or of similar artist, clicking on it doesn't work very often. And if I click the "+" button, there is written "loading" on the pup up window and nothing is happening. I think it is in some way not a problem of your app, but also of the Server (latest version 7.9 running on a qnap NAS x86) or the plug-in. But I think it could be handled by having a "play" button instead (or in addition) of this "+" button. 'Cause when I do it like that from the web interface, (just clicking the play button that is coming up when I am hovering over the entry), it's working.

    So my question is: Could you make it possible in your app to just send the "play" impulse to the server in addition to show all possibilities over the "+" button?

    Best regards,

    Joern
    02-09-2017 02:51 AM
  11. wayne@angrygoat's Avatar
    Hello,

    I have a problem with the 3rd Party Spotify Plug-In from Triode. When I search e.g. for an artist, click on the artist and want to play a mix of the artist or of similar artist, clicking on it doesn't work very often. And if I click the "+" button, there is written "loading" on the pup up window and nothing is happening. I think it is in some way not a problem of your app, but also of the Server (latest version 7.9 running on a qnap NAS x86) or the plug-in. But I think it could be handled by having a "play" button instead (or in addition) of this "+" button. 'Cause when I do it like that from the web interface, (just clicking the play button that is coming up when I am hovering over the entry), it's working.

    So my question is: Could you make it possible in your app to just send the "play" impulse to the server in addition to show all possibilities over the "+" button?

    Best regards,

    Joern
    First, having the tap gesture perform two different functions at the same time is just a bad design. Second, the problem you're experiencing is probably because you're using the old Triode plugin. Spotify made some changes to their service a while back and the old Triode plugin no longer works correctly. Instead you should delete that plugin and install the new Triode one called Spotify Protocol Handler. This plugin allows you to use the official Spotify app for Squeezebox.
    02-10-2017 01:37 AM
  12. jwittmann's Avatar
    Okay, thank you, I will try that.
    02-10-2017 02:18 AM
  13. SlimPvC's Avatar
    The automatic activation of Chromecast desperately needs a fix. I thought that hiding the Chromecast icon would also disable the behaviour, but it doesn't. Which means that my TV automatically switches to Chromecast input everytime I use the SqueezeCtrl App.
    Imagine my spouse's reaction when she is watching TV!!!
    it's a nice feature but when it cannot be turned of it is better removed completely. IMO
    02-10-2017 04:09 PM
  14. wayne@angrygoat's Avatar
    The automatic activation of Chromecast desperately needs a fix. I thought that hiding the Chromecast icon would also disable the behaviour, but it doesn't. Which means that my TV automatically switches to Chromecast input everytime I use the SqueezeCtrl App.
    Imagine my spouse's reaction when she is watching TV!!!
    it's a nice feature but when it cannot be turned of it is better removed completely. IMO
    Automatic casting is not a feature. It's a bug in Android that Google introduced sometime in the fall of last year.

    https://productforums.google.com/for...st/00b79rIKacA
    02-10-2017 09:17 PM
  15. SlimPvC's Avatar
    In that case I suggest disabling the Chromecast feature until the Android bug is fixed.

    It is a nice feature when it works and can be disabled manually. But since that is impossible, it takes over tv control at unwanted moments, every time the App start. Which is a bad thing and causes trouble at home.

    For me it will mean I cannot use SqueezeCtrl any longer until the issue is fixed. Which is sad because I really liked this app.

    (BTW your link is incomplete)
    02-11-2017 03:56 AM
  16. wayne@angrygoat's Avatar
    Try following the directions at this link: How to Remove Chromecast’s New Network-Wide Android Notifications

    It help another user.
    02-12-2017 08:07 PM
  17. SlimPvC's Avatar
    Thanks for your suggestion but sorry this didn't help. The app keeps making a Chromecast connection as soon as it it started.
    I'm on Android 6.01

    (BTW - I guess your suggestion would turn off ALL notifications, for other apps also, eg Netflix etc, but that is not what I want.)

    I still think the Chromecast feature in SqueezeCtrl is a pain. No single other app starts casting automatically, casting always has to be triggered manually to avoid unwanted behaviour like this.
    02-13-2017 02:52 AM
  18. wayne@angrygoat's Avatar
    Casting always has to be triggered manually to avoid unwanted behaviour like this.
    In fact that is how it's supposed the work, and is how it still works for the majority of users, myself included. This is the main reason why I can't fix it, I don't experience it on any of my devices. I have some guesses at what might be the cause, but without a device that experiences the problem there's no way to test it.

    I think it mainly affects Android 6 (Marshmallow) on certain devices.
    02-13-2017 01:37 PM
  19. SlimPvC's Avatar
    I think it mainly affects Android 6 (Marshmallow) on certain devices.
    Oh, I understand now, didn't know it affected only some devices. Looks like I'm f*ed then with my Samsung A3 2016 on Android 6 :-(
    02-13-2017 03:00 PM
  20. narqotic's Avatar
    Hello.
    I have the same problem with my Samsung Galaxy s5 mini (Android 5.1.1) and Sony Xperia Tablet Z (also 5.1.1), but on Sony Xperia Z3 Compact (6.0.1) it seems to work fine. This issue is really annoying, because my TV turns on every time I try to start the app on my Tablet
    I'd rather not to have this feature at all, because I don't need to see the title of actual track on 49" screen...
    02-14-2017 11:17 AM
  21. SlimPvC's Avatar
    I'd rather not to have this feature at all, because I don't need to see the title of actual track on 49" screen...
    I second that. It also uses extra energy having a TV on all the time so it's bad for the environment too...
    02-14-2017 11:26 AM
  22. wayne@angrygoat's Avatar
    I second that. It also uses extra energy having a TV on all the time so it's bad for the environment too...
    Chromecast support was a feature requested by a user, so I can't just remove it. Someone is using it.

    Google seems to have rolled back the version of the one of the support libraries that developers need to use to support Chromecast, probably because of this problem. I'll publish an update in the next few days that uses this older version, after I make sure it doesn't break something else. Hopefully that will fix it.
    02-14-2017 11:18 PM
  23. SlimPvC's Avatar
    Chromecast support was a feature requested by a user, so I can't just remove it. Someone is using it.
    I understand that. But then it should also behave like it is implemented in every other app, which means the connection is only initiated with a user command (pressing the Chromecast Connect icon).

    I really hope the rollback will solve this problem!
    02-15-2017 07:00 AM
  24. wayne@angrygoat's Avatar
    I understand that. But then it should also behave like it is implemented in every other app, which means the connection is only initiated with a user command (pressing the Chromecast Connect icon).
    As I have mentioned above, it is supposed to only work when the user initiates it and it was working that way until Google changed something that causes it to auto connect. If you don't believe me that other apps, including Google apps, had the same problem, look at this thread: https://productforums.google.com/for...st/00b79rIKacA
    02-16-2017 10:01 PM
  25. SlimPvC's Avatar
    I DO believe you, and I really hope this problem will be fixed soon (by Google)!

    It's only confusing that - unlike many others in the other threads - every other cast-enabled app on my phone works fine. Also, the other threads also often mention unwanted popups or notifications on their phone which is not my problem at all.
    02-17-2017 02:52 AM
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