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  1. phillysdon04's Avatar
    This is my settings on my EVO and I do see a difference in my battery life:
    Timeout: Do Nothing
    Schedule: Enable Data for 3m every 1h
    Night: Keep data/wifi disabled 2am>6am
    Battery: Keep data/wifi disabled while below 15%
    Traffic: Keep data/wifi enabled while > 50kb/15s
    Peak: Do nothing
    Charger: : Keep data/wifi enabled while charging
    Screen: Keep data/wifi enabled while screen unlocked
    Location: Keep wifi disabled while distance > 4752m
    How do you have yours setup?
    07-17-2010 02:26 PM
  2. VaccPalm's Avatar
    Forgive my ignorance but with something like this. If it shuts down data would you still recieve text and phone calls ??
    07-17-2010 04:03 PM
  3. GlitchZero's Avatar
    Texts and phone calls run on a different radio; they don't use the same connection as Data does.
    07-17-2010 05:41 PM
  4. VaccPalm's Avatar
    Thank you.
    07-17-2010 06:11 PM
  5. melwan's Avatar
    @phillysdon04 Do you see that big of an improvement in battery life if you don't have that app? Just wondering since setting it up seems like a hassle. Is it worth the trouble?

    Ever since I stopped using Task Killers, my battery would be around 30% by 11 pm and I consider myself a heavy user. Therefore, I'm just wondering what difference would this app make. Running N1 if that makes a difference.
    07-17-2010 06:42 PM
  6. VaccPalm's Avatar
    Seems from reading how the app works and the reviews it helps if you dont use the phone alot. What I mean is it will slow down your battery drain in idle a little but if your a heavy phone user you will see very little difference. Just my take.
    07-17-2010 08:09 PM
  7. milominderbinde's Avatar
    Well, I did not get that with JuiceDefender, you also needed UltimateJuice to get these features. So I spent the $3.60 to get the full package. Right now I have it set as Philly does in the opening post.

    I have an EVO and have been getting 8 hours of battery life. I will report back what I get with JuiceDefender and UltimateJuice.

    I like the Widgets to show the increased battery life expected multiplier (1.72) and the expected time remaining.
    07-18-2010 10:01 PM
  8. Nebilim's Avatar
    JD is nonsense. control your settings yourself with ATK works wonders. my battery lasted 26 hours yesterday
    07-19-2010 11:31 AM
  9. meyerweb#CB's Avatar
    Turning WiFi off is a mistake if you're within range of WiFi. It uses much less power than 3G. (Of course, if you don't want any data, then turn both WiFi and 3G off).

    You realize, I'm sure, that with these settings you won't get any emails, calendar syncing, facebook syncing, etc., except for 3 minutes an hour. Seems awful limiting.

    What does distance greater than 4752m mean? Is that meters or miles? And distance from what?


    Battery life has far more to do with your signal strength, how much you use the phone, and what kind of data syncing activities you have going on. I suppose JD will probably improve battery life simply by preventing you from using the phone the way it was meant to be used. If you're going to limit email and data to only 5% of the time you have your phone, why not just buy a feature phone and be done with it. I guarantee the battery will last a lot longer.

    Rather than applying bandaids, like task killers and Juice Defender, figure out what's killing your battery. Download Spare Parts and System Panel, and search the forum for threads that will help you understand what they're telling you.

    milo, if you're only getting 8 hours out of a battery, then either (a), you're in a really weak signal area, (b) you've got some app (or apps) that are running out of control, or (c), you're constantly syncing data, burning up the battery by using the radio transmitter all the time.
    07-19-2010 01:23 PM
  10. Nebilim's Avatar
    Turning WiFi off is a mistake if you're within range of WiFi. It uses much less power than 3G. (Of course, if you don't want any data, then turn both WiFi and 3G off).

    You realize, I'm sure, that with these settings you won't get any emails, calendar syncing, facebook syncing, etc., except for 3 minutes an hour. Seems awful limiting.

    What does distance greater than 4752m mean? Is that meters or miles? And distance from what?


    Battery life has far more to do with your signal strength, how much you use the phone, and what kind of data syncing activities you have going on. I suppose JD will probably improve battery life simply by preventing you from using the phone the way it was meant to be used. If you're going to limit email and data to only 5% of the time you have your phone, why not just buy a feature phone and be done with it. I guarantee the battery will last a lot longer.

    Rather than applying bandaids, like task killers and Juice Defender, figure out what's killing your battery. Download Spare Parts and System Panel, and search the forum for threads that will help you understand what they're telling you.

    milo, if you're only getting 8 hours out of a battery, then either (a), you're in a really weak signal area, (b) you've got some app (or apps) that are running out of control, or (c), you're constantly syncing data, burning up the battery by using the radio transmitter all the time.
    well i can asure you that the ATK bandaid actually WORKS. but you already knew that. plus most people dont have time all day to keep checking spare parts to see what is burning up their battery
    07-19-2010 02:06 PM
  11. meyerweb#CB's Avatar
    Actually, I don't KNOW that. For every person who says ATK dramatically improved their battery life, there's someone else who said is didn't accomplish anything except cause problems using their phone. And some, like melwan above, who got better life when they stopped using task killers.

    If ATK works for you, great. We'll be here to help when something on your phone gets hosed.
    07-19-2010 02:16 PM
  12. Mr.Miagi's Avatar
    Just tried juice defender and juice plotter. My battery went from 70% at 4pm to 20% now at 7pm. I'm gonna say it doesnt work. When I took my phone off the charger from 630AM to 4PM it went from 100-70. Without it I normally get go 630AM-midnight with battery left over. (Using CM 6.0 RC-1). Needless to say I uninstalled juice defender. I'll leave juice plotter another day to see if that eats my battery or will play nice.


    CN: Juice Defender, 2 mickey mouse size thumbs down.
    07-19-2010 06:17 PM
  13. phillysdon04's Avatar
    @phillysdon04 Do you see that big of an improvement in battery life if you don't have that app? Just wondering since setting it up seems like a hassle. Is it worth the trouble?

    Ever since I stopped using Task Killers, my battery would be around 30% by 11 pm and I consider myself a heavy user. Therefore, I'm just wondering what difference would this app make. Running N1 if that makes a difference.
    Yes, without the app, I had a 10% battery decrease per hour. Now I had a 1% decrease per hour in standby mode. The default settings saves battery power but I wanted to save even more power. The settings seemed crazy to me too at first but it is not a hassle, it is worth it to me. The main thing the app does is turn off the battery draining data when you are in standby mode. besides getting emails, you don't need data when you are not looking at the phone. When you turn the screen on and unlock the phone, the internet comes back on and you can do what ever it is you want to do.
    07-19-2010 07:05 PM
  14. phillysdon04's Avatar
    JD is nonsense. control your settings yourself with ATK works wonders. my battery lasted 26 hours yesterday
    How do you have your ATK setup? I didn't get results like that when I used it.
    07-19-2010 07:17 PM
  15. meyerweb#CB's Avatar
    besides getting emails, you don't need data when you are not looking at the phone.
    Well, many would disagree with that statement. But if it works for you, then great. Personally, I use Pandora with the screen off, and sometimes I want GPS based updates even when the phone is off. Others might well want Facebook and Twitter feeds to update, etc.
    07-19-2010 08:44 PM
  16. lcsglvr's Avatar
    I had a 10% battery decrease per hour.
    This is what I get with my Incredible. While at work, I have no cell reception so I put it in airplane. I still got about ~25% loss in 6 hours... in air plane!!

    The main thing the app does is turn off the battery draining data when you are in standby mode. besides getting emails, you don't need data when you are not looking at the phone. When you turn the screen on and unlock the phone, the internet comes back on and you can do what ever it is you want to do.

    Is this what 'Power Save Mode Toggle' does, too??
    Which one do you recommend? Do they do the same thing?

    Thanks.
    07-20-2010 07:15 PM
  17. readable's Avatar
    I see JuiceDefender is great for people living in areas where your phone is always search for a 3G connection. I find that when my phone is searching for a 3g connection, the battery decreases the most. Hence this program stops it from searching when the screen is off. As soon as turn on my EVO, it is ready to do anything I want. This is a great battery saver for people in weak areas and who are power users.
    07-22-2010 08:33 AM
  18. chefmike's Avatar
    I love juice Defender, I got 5 hours before it and now a day and a half or more since uploading it and think that it is great!
    08-01-2010 08:18 PM
  19. wmtoandroid's Avatar
    Well, many would disagree with that statement. But if it works for you, then great. Personally, I use Pandora with the screen off, and sometimes I want GPS based updates even when the phone is off. Others might well want Facebook and Twitter feeds to update, etc.
    Actually, you can set up JD to keep the data connection on if an app is still using it... in other words, it will turn it off based on your settings if no apps have been using data for a set amount of time.

    If you want facebook, twitter, email updates at shorter intervals, you can set that too. Basically, you can tell JD when to turn your data connection on so those said programs can do their syncing and then it turns data off again.

    I'm testing JD now and I've got mine set to turn data on every 15 minutes. I really don't need updates at intervals shorter than that or I would be constantly bothered with notifications!
    08-02-2010 08:05 AM
  20. sanjsrik's Avatar
    Is anyone else experiencing really horrible slowdown on their devices using juice defender? I just upgraded to the pro version and wow my device is almost completely non-responsive. screen touches just sit, email doesn't download, the device is simply sitting there.

    I disabled juice defender, power cycled off and then off, and eveyrthing is back to being very spiffy.

    One of the settings I had set was to not dim the screen on charging cord and it still dimmed the screen.

    The interface, in my opinion is VERY confusing to use, I can't seem to set things that are supposed to be set and it doesn't seem as if it's very intuitive in how it's laid out.

    Any help would be appreciated.
    08-20-2010 08:55 AM
  21. sasha's Avatar
    JD is nonsense. control your settings yourself with ATK works wonders. my battery lasted 26 hours yesterday
    I don't know any supposed battery saving app that can make a phone last 26 hours unless your not making calls or using data at all, and even then I have to question this?
    08-20-2010 09:17 AM
  22. creepyncrawly's Avatar
    Turning WiFi off is a mistake if you're within range of WiFi. It uses much less power than 3G....
    I live and work in a rural area, about 20 miles from the nearest 3g tower, so my local coverage is edge. However, I have a wireless (n) router in the same room at work all day, and I find that with wifi on it eats my battery, but with wifi off, I get pretty good battery life, all other things being equal.

    Battery life has far more to do with your signal strength, how much you use the phone, and what kind of data syncing activities you have going on....

    ... if you're only getting 8 hours out of a battery, then either (a), you're in a really weak signal area, (b) you've got some app (or apps) that are running out of control, or (c), you're constantly syncing data, burning up the battery by using the radio transmitter all the time.
    (a) I have from no signal to 1 or 2 bars while sitting in my office (2g edge) but the signal is not good enough to make a call from inside the office. Have to go outside to make a call.

    (b) I think this may be the case, but I can't determine what app or apps may be running out of control. When wifi is on, I get a constant stream of data activity indicated by the wireless indicator on the router. If no one else is using the wireless (often the case) then the indicator led exactly responds to turning wifi on and off on the phone: on -- constant stream of data, off -- absolutely no data. When wifi is on, the indicator led blinks steadily at a rate of probably 15-20 times per second, not like a normal data stream that tracks actual data use, as in when the laptop is using the wireless, etc.

    (c) probably not.

    How am I going to find out what is causing this extreme battery use. If I leave wifi on all day, my battery is dead by mid afternoon. If i leave it off all day, I am still at 65-70% by 9:00 pm.

    I've tried using ATK to manually kill each process, even the ones on low security, but nothing stops the data stream, so I can't pinpoint any app that is directly linked to the data usage.

    Any help appreciated.

    Samsung Captivate
    09-05-2010 05:35 PM
  23. Dural's Avatar

    ...How am I going to find out what is causing this extreme battery use. If I leave wifi on all day, my battery is dead by mid afternoon. If i leave it off all day, I am still at 65-70% by 9:00 pm.

    I've tried using ATK to manually kill each process, even the ones on low security, but nothing stops the data stream, so I can't pinpoint any app that is directly linked to the data usage.

    Any help appreciated.

    Samsung Captivate
    Some thoughts and a few questions. I've played with but never owned the Captivate (I left ATT for the Droid X and haven't looked back).

    You probably have a native app manager under your settings that allows you to see and then individually terminate running processes. If you do, I suggest you use that to investigate and then individually turn off apps etc. you're not using. I was using ATK 20+ times a day, uninstalled it, and actually saw an increase in device usability (measured by Quadrant) and a small but meaningful boost in battery life. I would suggest considering an uninstall of ATK and controlling/killing apps one by one. You may be surprised to see your device respond very favorably.

    The Droid X has the best scores for battery life among Droids at the moment, and if I recall the Captivate was middle of the pack. Its true that certain apps are notorious battery hogs. What widgets etc. do you have running on your screens? Live wallpapers?

    The WiFi issue is controversial... I've heard many here swear that it should spare battery life being on WiFi while others swear just having the radio on drains it down. It may be device specific (across models) and your mileage may vary.
    09-05-2010 09:21 PM
  24. Hitch_Itch's Avatar
    Im using the free version. I first day I installed it, kept the preset setting after running "setup" and my widget showed something like 1.70x battery life. Each day that number is going down, The widget now shows 1.33x I have no idea why this is happening, I have not changed anything on the phone, or used it differently since I installed JD, Anyone Else Seeing the Same Thing?

    IF I understand this program correctly, It shuts your mobile network off, and then turns it on for 1 minute every 15 minutes, then back off again. I dont need constant updates "emails, facebook etc" So i was thinking of putting the mobile network widget on my home screen and turning it off till I need email, internet again. Wouldn't that basically be doing the same as JD?

    Ken
    09-06-2010 10:41 AM
  25. infenit101's Avatar
    I started using the app the other day and although it says a 1.72x battery I don't see any improvements. In fact, I think it is negatively impacting my battery life.

    My settings are as follows:
    Timeout - Do nothing
    Schedule - Enable Data/Wifi for 5min every 2hrs.
    Night - Keep data/wifi disabled from 11pm till 4:30 am
    Battery - keep data/wifi disabled while below 10%
    Traffic - Leave data/wifi enabled while > 50KB/15s (might change this though because streaming audio cuts off after screen times out.)
    peak - do nothing
    apps - do nothing
    Screen - leave data/wifi enabled while screen on
    Location - keep wifi disabled while distance > 1336m

    The same as a user over at AndroidForums who reported a 2.29x increase in his battery life on his Epic 4G.

    I even have the UltimateJuice package.

    Typical usage including moderate browsing throughout the day, manual sync, and about 10% brightness with great 3g connection throughout the day.

    Without JD my battery would last from 7am to around 6pm

    With JD my battery would last from 7am to around 4:30pm.

    I'm going to try the JD app once again tomorrow and check out Juiceplotter but so far I am not convinced it helps.

    Also there is no way a battery will last 26 hours unless you are doing absolutely nothing on it.
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    10-13-2010 08:05 PM
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