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  1. jlekach's Avatar
    Is there any way to use Android pay but not have to lock my phone? It's annoying to have to do anything to get into my phone

    Posted via the Android Central App
    09-19-2015 05:07 PM
  2. Im_DreCo's Avatar
    Is there any way to use Android pay but not have to lock my phone? It's annoying to have to do anything to get into my phone

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    ANYONE would be able to use your phone to make payments if it didn't require a password or thumbprint. Why would you want that?

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    mrmoe110 likes this.
    09-19-2015 05:39 PM
  3. mrmoe110's Avatar
    Is there any way to use Android pay but not have to lock my phone? It's annoying to have to do anything to get into my phone

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    Why not just use Smart Lock.
    09-19-2015 05:50 PM
  4. dmgerbino's Avatar
    I hate that I need a password too. The reality is we never should have been allowed to setup Google Wallet and turn off the password. Having a fingerprint scanner works better but Google needs to figure out a better way.

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    09-19-2015 05:59 PM
  5. 2morebatteries's Avatar
    Agreed. That's why I haven't updated Wallet.
    09-19-2015 06:00 PM
  6. rfmike's Avatar
    If you have an android wear watch, just use that as your smart lock.

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    min_is_3 and mrmoe110 like this.
    09-19-2015 07:39 PM
  7. mrmoe110's Avatar
    If you have an android wear watch, just use that as your smart lock.

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    Exactly. With all the different ways you can set up Smart Lock I rarely have to put in my lock code.
    09-19-2015 11:28 PM
  8. yankeesusa's Avatar
    Agreed. That's why I haven't updated Wallet.
    All you need is a pattern, after that when you tap and pay, if it asks for pin on the terminal you select credit, you don't need to enter a pin. It's actually faster than g wallet

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    09-19-2015 11:57 PM
  9. yankeesusa's Avatar
    I hate that I need a password too. The reality is we never should have been allowed to setup Google Wallet and turn off the password. Having a fingerprint scanner works better but Google needs to figure out a better way.

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    Again, what is the point of using a secure form of payment and then leave it open for anyone to use? It's like getting an alarm system but disabling it and leaving your front door open.

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    jlekach and cwbcpa like this.
    09-19-2015 11:58 PM
  10. 2morebatteries's Avatar
    All you need is a pattern, after that when you tap and pay, if it asks for pin on the terminal you select credit, you don't need to enter a pin. It's actually faster than g wallet
    I'm not enabling lockscreen just to use Pay, which I rarely use.

    Again, what is the point of using a secure form of payment and then leave it open for anyone to use? It's like getting an alarm system but disabling it and leaving your front door open.
    Wallet works without lockscreen. Explain to me all you want on how Pay and Wallet differs in security, that won't make me enable lockcscreen, I'll just stop paying with my phone.

    (Yes, lockscreen is that annoying to me. It's like remotely unlocking my car door, walk up to my car and manually unlocking it with my key...I don't need that extra step.)
    09-20-2015 02:26 AM
  11. fraliex's Avatar
    I must agree. I hate the fact I must have phone security enabled. The old Google Wallet didn't require it and I used NFC payments, and ISIS Wallet same. I understand setting up a PIN code or fingerprint scan in the application itself, but let me keep just a swipe screen.

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    09-20-2015 04:03 AM
  12. TWC42's Avatar
    ... let me keep just a swipe screen.
    try the pattern lock. only need 4 spots that you can set up like a swipe.
    then you are ready to use Android Pay (assuming NFC is on)
    You don't have to find the app and enter a PIN as you did with Wallet
    09-20-2015 09:08 AM
  13. fraliex's Avatar
    try the pattern lock. only need 4 spots that you can set up like a swipe.
    then you are ready to use Android Pay (assuming NFC is on)
    You don't have to find the app and enter a PIN as you did with Wallet
    Actually with the old Google Wallet you didn't have to launch the app Prior to paying. You could scan your NFC then the app would load and prompt for your pin. Once pin entered the payment was processed. I find that process is the same as if I had to key in my debit pin on the cash register pad.

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    09-20-2015 10:42 AM
  14. jlekach's Avatar
    I wouldn't want that but I would prefer to have to use my password or finger print to open the app or to use a card. Not for my entire phone.

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    09-20-2015 03:49 PM
  15. cozzy123's Avatar
    There are so many different smart locks included in Android please utilize them instead of complaining about assigning a pin or pattern.

    I use face unlock because I don't always like putting my pin number in. Works fine for me. You can also do device smart lock which is if you have a Bluetooth device near the phone it keeps your phone unlocked. Location based smart lock. When you are at home it is always unlocked but work it is locked. There is even body detection based smart lock.

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    09-20-2015 04:48 PM
  16. lkovach's Avatar
    ANYONE would be able to use your phone to make payments if it didn't require a password or thumbprint. Why would you want that?

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    With the old Google Wallet, you were able to set a pin on the app itself. With the update to Android Pay, you now have to lock the whole phone.

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    09-20-2015 07:45 PM
  17. icwhatudidthere's Avatar
    All you need is a pattern, after that when you tap and pay, if it asks for pin on the terminal you select credit, you don't need to enter a pin. It's actually faster than g wallet

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    That hasn't been my experience at all. Even with smartlock and my trusted 360, you still have to enter your unlock pattern/pin on the phone after you first tap at a terminal. Once your phone verifies you, you have to tap again. Note I don't have to enter a PIN at the terminal since I don't use debit cards.

    Compare that to Wallet, where you only enter your pin once per day. Then any successive uses go through with no security at all.
    09-20-2015 11:21 PM
  18. So Cold's Avatar
    The same people who complain about having to unlock their phones are the same people who would blame google as soon as their account got hijacked or someone "borrowed" their phone to pay for their groceries.

    Set your security to pattern unlock, your timeout to a half an hour and turn off the power button instantly locks option (I bet people complaining didn't do that last one). Do that and your phone is barely protected at all and you can still use android pay.
    09-21-2015 11:05 AM
  19. supert1020's Avatar
    Just make sure your next phone has a fingerprint scanner. Its the easiest way to unlock your phone and unlock Samsung pay.

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    09-21-2015 11:49 AM
  20. jasoraso's Avatar
    I tool am missing the old Google Wallet. I have BT Headsets, Moto watch etc - and use smart unlock. I turned the "ask for Pin" on G Wallet to never. I only had to turn the screen on, and touch my phone - Bam - transaction completed. If I lost my phone, or someone stole my phone - the pin on the phone would prevent them from using my phone (unless they stole my watch, too). I felt comfortable with that level of security.

    Now the app requires a Pin on the phone, which I am fine with - but it is also requiring PIN entry when I tap my phone Sometimes multiple times, too.
    Hopefully this gets adressed !
    09-21-2015 01:24 PM
  21. 2morebatteries's Avatar
    The same people who complain about having to unlock their phones are the same people who would blame google as soon as their account got hijacked or someone "borrowed" their phone to pay for their groceries.
    We're not irresponsible like you to lose our phones. Been lockscreen-free for 4+ years, starting with jailbreaking an iPhone 4S, yet, somehow, I kept my phones and accounts intact. Amazing how caring for your personal belonging works.
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    09-21-2015 01:32 PM
  22. So Cold's Avatar
    We're not irresponsible like you to lose our phones. Been lockscreen-free for 4+ years, starting with jailbreaking an iPhone 4S, yet, somehow, I kept my phones and accounts intact. Amazing how caring for your personal belonging works.
    Amazing... How assumptions work?

    I've never lost a phone but thanks for the assumption.

    The point is two factor authentication is nothing new, especially when involving payments. It's not outrageous for a lock screen to be required.

    And who's the "we" you speak of? Is it like a total we out are you taking up a cause for the people...? Just curious on who's behalf your making conjecture is all.
    09-21-2015 03:00 PM
  23. Darrkman's Avatar
    I'm amazed at some of the sentiment in here about phone security. I guess as a native New Yorker I know better:

    http://nypost.com/2015/09/21/hold-on...-subway-crime/

    Sent from my Galaxy S6
    09-21-2015 03:04 PM
  24. mrmoe110's Avatar
    That hasn't been my experience at all. Even with smartlock and my trusted 360, you still have to enter your unlock pattern/pin on the phone after you first tap at a terminal. Once your phone verifies you, you have to tap again. Note I don't have to enter a PIN at the terminal since I don't use debit cards.

    Compare that to Wallet, where you only enter your pin once per day. Then any successive uses go through with no security at all.
    Also, compare it to Wallet, which never got official support from banks.

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    09-21-2015 06:50 PM
  25. Vance14's Avatar
    Yes, Smart Lock entirely solves the problem of having to use a lockscreen, so people shouldn't whine about that.

    BUT, Smart Lock doesn't avoid still having to put in a PIN or pattern when you go to tap to pay, which makes no sense. I am unlocked, in a trusted environment, so the extra pattern requirement is annoying overkill.
    09-24-2015 03:17 PM
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