1. anon(5743667)'s Avatar
    All three phones are fantastic value at their prices, I just can’t decide which one I want.
    10-24-2017 10:23 AM
  2. Javier P's Avatar
    I was at the same place a couple of months ago, wait for the X4, get the G5+ or go for the new G5S+. I finally bought the G5S+.

    It all depends on your preferences, but these were my reasons.

    G5+. Excellent value for money. My wife's got one so I've been using it for a while. She prefers hers to mine.

    G5S+. Same performance and similar battery life as the G5+. Bigger screen, better materials (and looks), better speaker, more RAM (international models), more recent version of Android and I manage to get better pictures with this phone than with the G5+.

    X4. I was very interested about this model. Better SoC, camera, radios, new features ... A couple of things put me off, though. It seems battery life is not so good as on the Gs, glass back and system & preinstalled apps take basically half of the 32GB of storage.
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    10-24-2017 10:41 AM
  3. anon(5743667)'s Avatar
    I was at the same place a couple of months ago, wait for the X4, get the G5+ or go for the new G5S+. I finally bought the G5S+.

    It all depends on your preferences, but these were my reasons.

    G5+. Excellent value for money. My wife's got one so I've been using it for a while. She prefers hers to mine.

    G5S+. Same performance and similar battery life as the G5+. Bigger screen, better materials (and looks), better speaker, more RAM (international models), more recent version of Android and I manage to get better pictures with this phone than with the G5+.

    X4. I was very interested about this model. Better SoC, camera, radios, new features ... A couple of things put me off, though. It seems battery life is not so good as on the Gs, glass back and system & preinstalled apps take basically half of the 32GB of storage.
    The X4 (US version) doesn’t come in a 64GB model like the G5+ and G5S+? That’s very disappointing, but an SD card solves that I think.
    10-24-2017 11:32 AM
  4. Javier P's Avatar
    The X4 (US version) doesn’t come in a 64GB model like the G5+ and G5S+? That’s very disappointing, but an SD card solves that I think.
    I'm not completely sure, but I think the X4 for North and South America only comes with 3/32GB.

    Moto X4 review: A mid-range phone done right https://www.androidcentral.com/moto-x4-review
    10-24-2017 11:38 AM
  5. anon(5743667)'s Avatar
    I'm not completely sure, but I think the X4 for North and South America only comes with 3/32GB.

    Moto X4 review: A mid-range phone done right https://www.androidcentral.com/moto-x4-review
    I read the review and it seems like the perfect phone for me. I’m just concerned about the 32GB storage, I’m coming from a 64GB iPhone SE so it would be a downgrade.
    10-24-2017 11:44 AM
  6. Javier P's Avatar
    About the SD card. I have a mixed experience here. Adoptable/internal storage is too buggy and risky for my liking, definitely a no go. I use an SD card, as external storage, on my old X Play and it's good for basic media files, but quite unreliable with more complicated things, like Spotify playlists for example.
    10-24-2017 11:45 AM
  7. anon(5743667)'s Avatar
    About the SD card. I have a mixed experience here. Adoptable/internal storage is too buggy and risky for my liking, definitely a no go. I use an SD card, as external storage, on my old X Play and it's good for basic media files, but quite unreliable with more complicated things, like Spotify playlists for example.
    How much available storage do 32GB phones usually have?
    10-24-2017 11:47 AM
  8. Javier P's Avatar
    How much available storage do 32GB phones usually have?
    That's the thing, it depends. In the two Moto G5 models the system takes about 8GB while in the X4 I saw reports that there are less than 17GB of user storage. I'll try to find the link.
    10-24-2017 11:53 AM
  9. Javier P's Avatar
    It was in a Brazilian Google+ community. Most likely the Android One model uses less storage.
    10-24-2017 12:01 PM
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    10-24-2017 12:02 PM
  11. anon(5743667)'s Avatar
    That's the thing, it depends. In the two Moto G5 models the system takes about 8GB while in the X4 I saw reports that there are less than 17GB of user storage. I'll try to find the link.
    That’s insane! Why would the Moto X4 have less available storage than the G5+ models? What’s eating up all that storage? Many 32GB phones I’ve seen have about 22-24GB available.
    10-24-2017 02:27 PM
  12. Javier P's Avatar
    Yeah. I guess all those new features take a lot of storage (intelligent camera, AI, new Bluetooth capabilities ...).
    10-24-2017 02:39 PM
  13. anon(5743667)'s Avatar
    Yeah. I guess all those new features take a lot of storage (intelligent camera, AI, new Bluetooth capabilities ...).
    Then again we won’t know until people get their own phones. That may have been a flawed device that person had.
    10-24-2017 03:40 PM
  14. Javier P's Avatar
    Then again we won’t know until people get their own phones. That may have been a flawed device that person had.
    The X4 is already available in different places (Brazil, Germany, etc) and those are reports from real users.
    10-24-2017 03:43 PM
  15. anon(5743667)'s Avatar
    The X4 is already available in different places (Brazil, Germany, etc) and those are reports from real users.
    From what I’ve read, the Moto X4 is a slight spec bump over the Moto G5+ and G5S+. The only additions are a slightly newer processor, USB-C, NFC, Alexa, and a glass back. Maybe I’d be better off saving money and getting the Moto G5+, which has more RAM and storage than the X4 for $100 less and doesn’t have a fragile glass back.
    10-24-2017 04:17 PM
  16. Javier P's Avatar
    I just played with the X4 in the shop. Confirmed, 15.5GB taken out of the box. Nice phone, very slippery.
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    10-25-2017 10:22 AM
  17. ksefan's Avatar
    Also the Moto x4 is ip68 water resistant and if you buy it through project fi it's an Android one device so you are getting that pure Android experience that you get with pixel devices
    10-25-2017 09:35 PM
  18. ksefan's Avatar
    There is also a prime exclusive one that knocks off 70 bucks. That's a good deal and I'll tell you right now the ads are not as bad as you think plus since it's Android there is work arounds for the ads if need be
    10-25-2017 09:37 PM

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