06-14-2011 02:14 PM
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  1. jonhcox's Avatar
    All,

    I have a coworker that is trying to sell me a Transformer because he needs quick cash. I'm deeply considering buying it, but I want to know from all of you current owners out there how they seem to be holding up. How is the build quality, any issues that seem to be prevalent across the product? I'd like to get it for my wife as she really enjoys my Xoom, though I might keep the Transformer because of the superior display and give her the Xoom. Just looking for both the positives and negatives as the deal is really too good to turn down. Anyone had to deal with Asus customer service and how well did it go?

    All input greatly appreciated.

    Regards,
    J
    06-09-2011 07:47 AM
  2. imtravis's Avatar
    So far so good for me and my Transformer. I've been using it quite a bit (pretty much my main device at home and on the road now). Even been using it at the office. There are some light leakage issues (but it only seems to occur during bootup for me). Other than that, I've no complaints so far, except I need to get the dock for my wife's TF (her's comes in today).
    06-09-2011 09:18 AM
  3. my3chis's Avatar
    I can't compare it to the Xoom but I did have the Galaxy Tab and returned that within 24 hours. I love my Transformer so much I just ordered one for my hubby (along with a dock for us to share).
    06-09-2011 09:24 AM
  4. DNicolasL's Avatar
    The Transformer has definitely lived up to my expectations. I imagine I will be blown away even more when my keyboard dock arrives.
    06-09-2011 09:40 AM
  5. cmscritic's Avatar
    So far, easily the best tablet i've owned. I love it.
    06-09-2011 09:51 AM
  6. mikehoff99's Avatar
    I love It! I love everything about it. even with the light bleed, Ii only happens when it is booting up, and when going into certain youtube videos, is is soooo minimal. Oh yeah...did i say I love it?
    06-09-2011 10:01 AM
  7. mknollman123's Avatar
    I love mine as well - I would say if yu are getting a decent discount on it, I would jump. This is especially true if your wife likes Android. If she is not techy AT ALL then I would get her an ipad1 refurb - that is what my wife has and loves it. She seems to think that the interface on honeycomb is as complex as a PC.

    Oddly enough, she uses and Android phone (droid x) and likes that, but as far as tablets go she prefers that ipad.

    After owning mine a few weeks now and having played with many others, the Transformer would still be my first choice even if it cost the same as the competitors - since it was cheaper it was a no brainer for me.
    06-09-2011 10:13 AM
  8. VydorScope's Avatar
    It is hands down the best tablet on the market.Better then the more expensive Xoom and iPad2, IMO. So yeah, jump on it.
    06-09-2011 11:17 AM
  9. hargoth#AC's Avatar
    Hooked mine up to a TV and wireless Logitech keyboard/mouse last night, and was amazed. Sooo nice. There is no other tablet, at any cost, that is a match for the Transformer.

    I owned the Xoom for a week and returned it.

    I have had the Transformer now for about a week and have no intention of giving it up. I am constantly looking for interesting things to do with it.

    FUN!
    06-09-2011 11:24 AM
  10. vbsoulpole's Avatar
    It's an amazing device. Much better than I even thought. I got it for school but quickly realized how much more I'll be using it for. The Splashtop is easy to setup and works like a charm, the battery life-when combined with the dock-is outstanding, and Honeycomb is addicting to play with and learn. I'd recommend it to anyone.
    06-09-2011 11:37 AM
  11. jonhcox's Avatar
    I love mine as well - I would say if yu are getting a decent discount on it, I would jump. This is especially true if your wife likes Android. If she is not techy AT ALL then I would get her an ipad1 refurb - that is what my wife has and loves it. She seems to think that the interface on honeycomb is as complex as a PC.

    Oddly enough, she uses and Android phone (droid x) and likes that, but as far as tablets go she prefers that ipad.

    After owning mine a few weeks now and having played with many others, the Transformer would still be my first choice even if it cost the same as the competitors - since it was cheaper it was a no brainer for me.
    Wifey likes widgets and what I consider to be the best notifications system. Plus, she likes to fart around with all the features of Android. She likes to play.

    Keep the info coming, all. Much appreciated. Looks like I will move on the Transformer.
    06-09-2011 12:49 PM
  12. Ronindan's Avatar
    Good luck with your transformer and I hope that it works out for you.

    Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
    06-09-2011 01:28 PM
  13. h00ligan's Avatar
    ohboy, just joined here but i'd have to give it a huge now. Sorry for the negative first post! now let's see if i can find some solutions to curb the disappointment
    06-10-2011 01:20 AM
  14. ksmith0034's Avatar
    ohboy, just joined here but i'd have to give it a huge now. Sorry for the negative first post! now let's see if i can find some solutions to curb the disappointment
    What's causing your dissappointment?
    06-10-2011 03:01 PM
  15. h00ligan's Avatar
    Well, to start I have issues that require me to exchange (dead pixels, light bleed, dust).. which could be ok, but in usage there are a few big things.

    Browser lag is awful. For the power in the device it should be a smoother experience all around. Especially the typing lag when trying to reply to forums, etc. It's basically unusable.. well it's usable but leads to a lot of typos, even with the dock due to delay and missed strokes.

    The Asus keyboard even introduces lag in things like polaris.

    While not as bad as the browser lag, the entire device is just very sluggish to do anything.

    Flash quality is desperately poor in all circumstances.. from what I gather, Asus did not include hardware decoding.. not sure why. Either way, it's not good. Most sites have html 5 versions of videos now, and those tend to look way better, on other devices.. but I'm guessing due to the embed tag used in given browsers, it's even difficult to get those to play in most cases.

    App availability is just awful (It's early, I know) and due to browser issues (tried most of them, most of them fail in one way or another) falling back on apps is a must.

    Even apps that have been optimized (USA Today for example) are very poor counterparts to their ios equivalents.. as far as UI goes... which also brings me to how there is a complete lack of unity on the devices.. even in the 'menu' icon position, changing from bottom to top..

    The fact touch to click can't be disabled natively on the transformer dock trackpad is a disaster. It means one has to remember to turn off the trackpad with the hard button when typing anything in. At that point, why bother putting a trackpad there. In practice, the trackpad is bad. Additionally the buttons stick (which may be fixed wearing in).

    I'm desperately trying to get out of the ios environment, but overall I just don't think android is there yet and this device, to me, should have probably seen delay to iron out quality and software issues.

    It's disappointing that outside of mail, google didn't even bother updating their own apps for honeycomb... and also that anyone like myself looking to extricate from the apple ecosystem is greeted with such mediocrity. Before anyone takes that the wrong way, there are plenty of reasons I want to leave iOS, and apple has it's own plethora of issues.. however user interface and responsiveness are not two things on that list.

    Sorry to be a party pooper.. I guess if I hadn't been using a tablet for the last 16 months, I wouldn't have the same expectations. I was hoping it would be 80% as good as the ipad as a tablet with the benefit of a netbook when needed.. unfortunately the speed issue is the largest deal killer. I can put up with limited apps, but not when I can't even effectively browse. Overall the device is slower than a dell mini 9 running windows 7 - which is slow.

    One question it does lead to for me is.. do the phones perform better? There are certainly more phone apps available. However, the fact that many android handset users seem to think honeycomb is 'good' makes me wonder how bad gingerbread is and how sluggish the phones are.. otoh, it's had more revs...

    I do think there is a certain amount of just 'being used to' a lack of polish it seems.

    Btw, before I get crucified here, I am trying to be honest.. I'm a triplatform guy, and I couldn't care less who makes what or which os it runs.. so long as it fits my needs.

    btw btw.. the typos in my first post were the result of trying to reply in honeycomb via web form...
    06-10-2011 04:09 PM
  16. mknollman123's Avatar
    Well, to start I have issues that require me to exchange (dead pixels, light bleed, dust).. which could be ok, but in usage there are a few big things.

    Browser lag is awful. For the power in the device it should be a smoother experience all around. Especially the typing lag when trying to reply to forums, etc. It's basically unusable.. well it's usable but leads to a lot of typos, even with the dock due to delay and missed strokes.

    The Asus keyboard even introduces lag in things like polaris.

    While not as bad as the browser lag, the entire device is just very sluggish to do anything.

    Flash quality is desperately poor in all circumstances.. from what I gather, Asus did not include hardware decoding.. not sure why. Either way, it's not good. Most sites have html 5 versions of videos now, and those tend to look way better, on other devices.. but I'm guessing due to the embed tag used in given browsers, it's even difficult to get those to play in most cases.

    App availability is just awful (It's early, I know) and due to browser issues (tried most of them, most of them fail in one way or another) falling back on apps is a must.

    Even apps that have been optimized (USA Today for example) are very poor counterparts to their ios equivalents.. as far as UI goes... which also brings me to how there is a complete lack of unity on the devices.. even in the 'menu' icon position, changing from bottom to top..

    The fact touch to click can't be disabled natively on the transformer dock trackpad is a disaster. It means one has to remember to turn off the trackpad with the hard button when typing anything in. At that point, why bother putting a trackpad there. In practice, the trackpad is bad. Additionally the buttons stick (which may be fixed wearing in).

    I'm desperately trying to get out of the ios environment, but overall I just don't think android is there yet and this device, to me, should have probably seen delay to iron out quality and software issues.

    It's disappointing that outside of mail, google didn't even bother updating their own apps for honeycomb... and also that anyone like myself looking to extricate from the apple ecosystem is greeted with such mediocrity. Before anyone takes that the wrong way, there are plenty of reasons I want to leave iOS, and apple has it's own plethora of issues.. however user interface and responsiveness are not two things on that list.

    Sorry to be a party pooper.. I guess if I hadn't been using a tablet for the last 16 months, I wouldn't have the same expectations. I was hoping it would be 80% as good as the ipad as a tablet with the benefit of a netbook when needed.. unfortunately the speed issue is the largest deal killer. I can put up with limited apps, but not when I can't even effectively browse. Overall the device is slower than a dell mini 9 running windows 7 - which is slow.

    One question it does lead to for me is.. do the phones perform better? There are certainly more phone apps available. However, the fact that many android handset users seem to think honeycomb is 'good' makes me wonder how bad gingerbread is and how sluggish the phones are.. otoh, it's had more revs...

    I do think there is a certain amount of just 'being used to' a lack of polish it seems.

    Btw, before I get crucified here, I am trying to be honest.. I'm a triplatform guy, and I couldn't care less who makes what or which os it runs.. so long as it fits my needs.

    btw btw.. the typos in my first post were the result of trying to reply in honeycomb via web form...
    Some legit points here - still like mine more than my wife's I pad - thinking if polish is what you want you should stick with your I pad bro
    06-10-2011 10:53 PM
  17. h00ligan's Avatar
    perhaps. I think some of this is silly lack of polish though. I don't really mind about app consistency, or gui being not as polished, but... when the browser lags so hard one can't really get a good reply typed on a hard keyboard.. something needs to be examined.

    I also forgot a big point, which is the wifi is very very weak compared to all other devices in my house (ranging from windows, mac, linux, phones) - it just won't connect well. I am hoping that is a driver issue.

    Thing is - asus said they plan on shipping version 2 of this device in q4, which is at least how much time i think it will take for app selection to grow and honeycomb to be worked out. so why bother now?

    Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
    06-10-2011 11:15 PM
  18. VydorScope's Avatar
    Typing this reply on the TF dock. There is not much lag at all. There should be none, I agree, but its not that bad. Letters are probably 1-2 key strokes behind my typing at most, and usally less. I prbly type much slower on this smaller keyboard, guesing 30-40 wpm. The arrow keys are a pian though. They do not seem to work as expected.
    06-11-2011 06:48 AM
  19. my3chis's Avatar
    Even with all the quirks you just mentioned, l would still take the transformer over an iPad. My biggest problem with my son's iPad is the screen isn't as crisp and clear as my transformer.
    06-11-2011 06:50 AM
  20. mknollman123's Avatar
    I had a little lag with the Asus keyboard but that was gone as soon as I switched to the android stock keyuboard.

    I agree the stock browser needs some work but the are great third party browsers out there too like dolphin HD

    I also agree that the honecomb app selecrtion is q little limited but so is the I pad app selection - especially when it was newer. At least android can gracefully up size most apps.
    In the end the iPad is a great advice but not the one for me. I have not and will not ever buy into the iTunes world.
    06-11-2011 09:45 AM
  21. bob smith's Avatar
    I like my TF and dock/keyboard combo. It is getting a lot of use. The software updates from Asus are awesome, and the microsd slot is full.

    The single #fail in my opinion is lack of a 12v barrel plug charge capability on the docki/keyboard. If the dock had a 12v barrel plug charge ability the charger/cable complaints would be much less relevant.
    06-11-2011 10:09 AM
  22. Ronindan's Avatar
    I agree with you man, the Asus virtual keyboard is a bit a laggy, but the android keyboard works well and it is fast. And of course the keyboard dock has no lag at all. The browser is slower that Chrome on my laptop, but I it is fine with me since; I know flash has still not managed to get their act together. I rather have full access to the web rather than ultra fast browser.

    As for apps, I know those apps will come as more android tablets are released to the market and as developers began to support honeycomb.



    This message is approved by my transformer
    06-11-2011 10:11 AM
  23. tiggrev's Avatar
    One question it does lead to for me is.. do the phones perform better? There are certainly more phone apps available. However, the fact that many android handset users seem to think honeycomb is 'good' makes me wonder how bad gingerbread is and how sluggish the phones are.. otoh, it's had more revs...
    I won't respond concerning your criticisms about the Transformer, some of which are valid, though frankly I'm really enjoying mine after two weeks of use. (This thing is addictive!)

    But I do have to step in and say that Android phones running Froyo or Gingerbread are not sluggish and we're NOT just deluding ourselves.

    My wife and I both have HTC EVOs - they are nearly a year old now and we've had NO issues whatsoever. None, zip, nada. I have over 100 apps installed on mine and have personally seen maybe one or two FCs due to an errant app in all that time. The UI (stock HTC Sense) is beautiful, fast, and hugely customizable. We were updated from Froyo to Gingerbread last month (minor but useful changes).

    My friends with iPhones just go quiet and get all moody when they see what I can do on that 4.3" screen
    06-11-2011 11:16 AM
  24. VydorScope's Avatar
    Yea my Nexus One does current out perform my TF. Honeycomb as a ways to go yet.
    06-11-2011 12:09 PM
  25. h00ligan's Avatar
    I have tried most of the browsers...but they all seem to suffer from the same issues (to varying degrees).

    Opera is the fastest, no adblock
    Dolphin is trying to work out page load issues, and still redraws slowly
    Stock has no adblock, lag, and redraws slowly.

    I posted a question about obtaining better video quality, but nobody so far seems to have an answer as to why I is so poor..also the sound is low/ bad

    I am ready to jump to android, but I don't think it's ready to be jumped into. The video quality aspect is really just another big deal...why should two devices on the ame network using the same source have such a huge disparity in video quality?

    Hw long is it going to take to fix all this stuff? I don't know how fast point updates roll from google... Is there any chance in a couple of weeks they will release something that fixes most f the slowness issues, or is that something that comes with a major rev every six months? Any one with more android experience, I'd love to know the answer!
    06-11-2011 03:57 PM
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