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  1. 5h4un360's Avatar
    It was pointed out to me that HTC uses the Droid name also. I don't know if Verizon has the lock on Droid anymore.
    HTC and Motorola do not own the DROID branding. Lucus Films license the trademark to Verizon and so Verizon chooses which phones will get the DROID brand

    Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk
    08-17-2011 03:24 PM
  2. androidjunkie30's Avatar
    I can say 4.5 is too big for ME not you and it was slightly taller and you don't know about my scenerio becuase 1) I'm only 13 2) I'm used to my epic's 4in. Screen 3) I would probably take me a while to get used to it.
    08-17-2011 03:32 PM
  3. huskerkate's Avatar
    Verizon is the exclusive licensee for the use of "Droid" as it pertains to telecommunication devices. That is why it is used for phones released by Verizon, regardless of the manufacturer - Motorola, HTC, etc.

    ....

    Maybe I am missing something but if this phone is in testing by Verizon doesn't that dictate an imminent release - I thought that Verizon testing was the final phase and doesn't last more than a month or so, if there are no big problems. I know we still need to see FCC approval, although wouldn't it need FCC approval for it to be in testing by Verizon?

    Also, I was under the impression, from things I read a long time ago, that Motorola had another big Verizon phone for Q4 that the info wasn't really out there for yet.(basicly, when we first learned about Targa it was said that it was for Q3 and there hadn't been any Q4 phones leaked yet)
    i just posted this in another thread. i guess it's technically cross-posting, but i thought it was apropos:

    in the quarterly earnings report/conf call on 7/28/11, Jha said that Moto would have at least one other LTE smartphone, besides the Bionic, released before the end of the year. right now, VZW is the only carrier with LTE. at&t is working on it, but i doubt such a phone would be released when the network isn't ready for it. to me, that says there is another LTE Moto phone coming to VZW, and in the not too distant future.

    as for "imminent" release, i don't know about that. i think there are different phases of testing. and, quite frankly, i don't see it coming out in direct competition to the Bionic. 3 months after the Bionic maybe, but not a few weeks. several people are saying it's a holiday release phone...
    08-17-2011 03:35 PM
  4. huskerkate's Avatar
    I can say 4.5 is too big for ME not you and it was slightly taller and you don't know about my scenerio becuase 1) I'm only 13 2) I'm used to my epic's 4in. Screen 3) I would probably take me a while to get used to it.
    my bad! i was working from the (apparently) faulty assumption that the Bionic dimensions were acceptable to you. if you're looking for something closer to a 4" screen, then this one would probably seem too big (as would the Bionic).
    08-17-2011 03:39 PM
  5. Asterdroid's Avatar
    I'm an *****.
    08-17-2011 03:45 PM
  6. GBH2's Avatar
    i just posted this in another thread. i guess it's technically cross-posting, but i thought it was apropos:

    in the quarterly earnings report/conf call on 7/28/11, Jha said that Moto would have at least one other LTE smartphone, besides the Bionic, released before the end of the year. right now, VZW is the only carrier with LTE. at&t is working on it, but i doubt such a phone would be released when the network isn't ready for it. to me, that says there is another LTE Moto phone coming to VZW, and in the not too distant future.

    as for "imminent" release, i don't know about that. i think there are different phases of testing. and, quite frankly, i don't see it coming out in direct competition to the Bionic. 3 months after the Bionic maybe, but not a few weeks. several people are saying it's a holiday release phone...
    Thanks for that, I recall Sanjay's statement but I hadn't realized how strongly it pointed to another phone ON VZW.

    I think "imminently" was a poor choice of words. I was really trying to point out that Q4, as in Nov - Dec. seems plausible given that testing by Verizon is usually done after OEM testing and that a Q1 or Q2 phone wouldn't be in Verizon testers hands now.

    Anyway, I am probably getting the Bionic, but I will see if we learn anymore about this phone by September. If it is the same or better internals and function as the Bionic but with a bigger and better screen and slim form factor, I can keep using my Droid 1 a few more months.
    08-17-2011 03:49 PM
  7. huskerkate's Avatar
    I think "imminently" was a poor choice of words. I was really trying to point out that Q4, as in Nov - Dec. seems plausible given that testing by Verizon is usually done after OEM testing and that a Q1 or Q2 phone wouldn't be in Verizon testers hands now.

    Anyway, I am probably getting the Bionic, but I will see if we learn anymore about this phone by September. If it is the same or better internals and function as the Bionic but with a bigger and better screen and slim form factor, I can keep using my Droid 1 a few more months.
    +1 on both points!
    08-17-2011 04:02 PM
  8. Asterdroid's Avatar
    I do find it interesting that a forum was created for this so quickly, while the Vigor and Prime don't have their own forums yet.

    Maybe this thing is closer than we think.
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    08-17-2011 04:11 PM
  9. huskerkate's Avatar
    I do find it interesting that a forum was created for this so quickly, while the Vigor and Prime don't have their own forums yet.

    Maybe this thing is closer than we think.
    very good point! but, then again, how long has the Bionic had its own forum...?
    08-17-2011 04:16 PM
  10. drbugsmn's Avatar
    I do find it interesting that a forum was created for this so quickly, while the Vigor and Prime don't have their own forums yet.

    Maybe this thing is closer than we think.
    I would hope this is so, but I wonder if has more to do with the fact that we have seen pictures of Bionic (the old then the new one) and now the Droid HD. I'm not aware of any pix of Vigor or Nexus Prime.
    08-17-2011 04:24 PM
  11. SSHGuru's Avatar
    If it's a few months away and we get some more information fine. But what if the Bionic comes out and we still don't have any more info on the HD - then you have to go Bionic or you may be waiting forever.

    As far as the Vigor or Nexus those are speculation and I won't buy HTC for any reason.
    08-17-2011 04:34 PM
  12. huskerkate's Avatar
    If it's a few months away and we get some more information fine. But what if the Bionic comes out and we still don't have any more info on the HD - then you have to go Bionic or you may be waiting forever.

    As far as the Vigor or Nexus those are speculation and I won't buy HTC for any reason.
    i wouldn't say the Nexus is speculation. we know that Google will release another Nexus, and history tells us it will be in conjunction with release of ICS. yes, timeframe and specs are speculation. but, ICS looks to be coming before the end of the year. so, it would certainly stand to reason that so is the Prime.

    i look at it differently. i can always get a Bionic (and if i wait until end of the year, i'll probably get a pretty smokin deal on one). but, if i get the Bionic at release, and the D-HD or Prime do come out before the end of the year, i'm pretty much up you-know-what creek without a paddle.
    08-17-2011 04:40 PM
  13. SSHGuru's Avatar
    I wouldn't look at it that way - the Bionic is a monster. There will always be better but the Bionic should hold you over for a very long time.

    And what if those phones DONT come out by the end of the year? Then your even more up the creek.

    i wouldn't say the Nexus is speculation. we know that Google will release another Nexus, and history tells us it will be in conjunction with release of ICS. yes, timeframe and specs are speculation. but, ICS looks to be coming before the end of the year. so, it would certainly stand to reason that so is the Prime.

    i look at it differently. i can always get a Bionic (and if i wait until end of the year, i'll probably get a pretty smokin deal on one). but, if i get the Bionic at release, and the D-HD or Prime do come out before the end of the year, i'm pretty much up you-know-what creek without a paddle.
    08-17-2011 05:44 PM
  14. huskerkate's Avatar
    if they don't come out by the end of the year, THEN i can buy the Bionic. maybe i'm not following you, but i'm not quite sure why i would be more up the creek if i wait until the end of the year before making any purchase...??
    08-17-2011 05:49 PM
  15. SSHGuru's Avatar
    If you wait til the end of the year there will be three more phones to wait 2 more months for. It's never ending. How much do you need?
    08-17-2011 06:59 PM
  16. huskerkate's Avatar
    If you wait til the end of the year there will be three more phones to wait 2 more months for. It's never ending. How much do you need?
    i gotcha... i'm pretty resolved to have a new phone before the end of the year, or Q1 at the latest, regardless of what's on the horizon. i was basically down to the Prime or Bionic. now, the HD has leapfrogged the Bionic, and depending on specs, may be tied with the Prime.
    08-17-2011 07:25 PM
  17. Jasper's Avatar
    It is pretty sad / frustrating, the phone I have been waiting on for 8 months isn't even out yet, and its successor is already being leaked and tested by verizon.
    What makes it worse, I was just picking on my workers yesterday (1 with Thunderbolt, and 1 with the Charge) about how their replacement phones were coming out already (GSII and Vigor)...
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    08-17-2011 07:28 PM
  18. HeadAcheJoe's Avatar
    Definitely excited to see a 4G LTE phone this thin slated for the near future.

    The most exciting part? This may indicate a reasonably sized slider (Droid 4(G)??) is now a feasible project!
    08-17-2011 08:49 PM
  19. Castor Troy's Avatar
    This phone looks like it's 4.3".

    I'm not high neither...or am I?
    08-17-2011 09:34 PM
  20. paulnewman's Avatar
    Looks nice but I'm probably going to stick with the Bionic.

    A.) I'm tired of waiting
    B.) Who knows when this will be released
    C.) Same internals as the Bionic
    D.) 4.5 is too big for me, I already have a tablet.

    Completely agree with you, specially about your point D. When I was in ATT I thought about buying an Infuse4G but it is juts way too big!
    08-18-2011 11:45 AM
  21. SSHGuru's Avatar
    They are the same size but the HD uses all of it's size to get you the 4.5 inches. Look at the pics - they are nearly the same.

    However based on Motorola and Verizon history this won't be out until next May.
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    08-18-2011 12:30 PM
  22. huskerkate's Avatar
    They are the same size but the HD uses all of it's size to get you the 4.5 inches. Look at the pics - they are nearly the same.

    However based on Motorola and Verizon history this won't be out until next May.
    yeah, the glass definitely covers the entire face of the device. but, the question remains whether the actual display of content under the glass is 4.3 or 4.5. if the menu buttons are permanent capacitive buttons (i.e., you can't turn them off), then the actual amount of the glass that will be used to display content may only be 4.3. however, if the menu buttons are part of the software (a la ICS), and you can hide them, then the amount of the actual display may measure 4.5.

    right now, it's too hard to tell. but, when i zoom in on the Engadget pics, it looks to me like the menu buttons may be part of the software, and not capacitive buttons.
    08-18-2011 08:29 PM
  23. huskerkate's Avatar
    good news, and bad. someone over at DF just posted a hint about the screen and menu buttons, saying that he wasn't merely looking at pics - hint, hint. he says the buttons are permanent capacitive, so the screen is 4.3". also (and this is kind of a bummer), the screen is qHD, and not the 1280 x 720 HD type.
    08-18-2011 08:39 PM
  24. GBH2's Avatar
    yeah, the glass definitely covers the entire face of the device. but, the question remains whether the actual display of content under the glass is 4.3 or 4.5. if the menu buttons are permanent capacitive buttons (i.e., you can't turn them off), then the actual amount of the glass that will be used to display content may only be 4.3. however, if the menu buttons are part of the software (a la ICS), and you can hide them, then the amount of the actual display may measure 4.5.

    right now, it's too hard to tell. but, when i zoom in on the Engadget pics, it looks to me like the menu buttons may be part of the software, and not capacitive buttons.
    I have looked over all the pictures and I am convinced that the DHD screen is the same as the Bionic and the buttons are permanent capacitive. Keep in mind - Motorola does 16:9 screen and if the buttons on the DHD were software the DHD screen would be a very bizarre aspect ratio, also that if they were just software they would either show clearly or not be visible.
    08-18-2011 08:42 PM
  25. huskerkate's Avatar
    it seems as tho you're correct. in essence, it's the same set up as the Storm 2.
    08-18-2011 08:48 PM
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