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  1. dmateo's Avatar
    If price weren't an issue, which would you choose and why?
    02-15-2018 09:43 PM
  2. cfclay's Avatar
    If price weren't an issue, which would you choose and why?
    Price no issue, go with the one that is water resistant. I bought my PH1 on 11/26 , the water thing is going to come up.
    Also, do you like to shop for accessories for your phone, not much available (including OtterBox) for the Essential.
    02-15-2018 09:46 PM
  3. SactoKingsFan's Avatar
    Price no issue, go with the one that is water resistant. I bought my PH1 on 11/26 , the water thing is going to come up.
    Also, do you like to shop for accessories for your phone, not much available (including OtterBox) for the Essential.
    The PH-1 is water resistant with IP54 rating.
    02-15-2018 10:09 PM
  4. cfclay's Avatar
    The PH-1 is water resistant with IP54 rating.
    Correct, that's a pretty low threshold tho
    02-15-2018 10:16 PM
  5. SactoKingsFan's Avatar
    Correct, that's a pretty low threshold tho
    Maybe for some but I'm fine with dust and spraying or splashing water resistance. Never dropped my phone in water and don't use my phone in bathrooms.
    02-15-2018 10:22 PM
  6. dmateo's Avatar
    I think there's a YouTube video somewhere showing essential water resistance
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    02-15-2018 10:32 PM
  7. 1901Madison's Avatar
    I think there's a YouTube video somewhere showing essential water resistance
    Depends what you value in a phone. The Essential gives you a big screen in a relatively small form factor and a gorgeous build and look. The Pixel 2 XL should provide significantly better camera and performance.
    cfclay likes this.
    02-16-2018 09:05 AM
  8. anon(10268214)'s Avatar
    It's interesting how no one ever seems to fault the Pixel for being overpriced. I mean with all the lawsuits and all, Lol.
    cfclay and Nubwy like this.
    02-16-2018 11:28 AM
  9. dmateo's Avatar
    It's interesting how no one ever seems to fault the Pixel for being overpriced. I mean with all the lawsuits and all, Lol.
    The real premium over essential is the camera imo
    02-16-2018 12:21 PM
  10. tech_head's Avatar
    The real premium over essential is the camera imo
    But that is only a value proposition if the camera is a deal breaker.
    I think the XL is over priced, but that is my humble opinion.

    The camera isn't/wasn't a deal breaker for me because I own real cameras with real glass.
    I phone camera is never going to compete with my APS-C cameras with real glass.
    Phone cameras just aren't that good.
    02-16-2018 01:09 PM
  11. anon(5630457)'s Avatar
    I would never consider the essential with its terrible cameras. I don't care how much it supposedly got better with software updates, the fact that the company put out a device with such a subpar camera was just dumb, IMO. P2XL is the only option here.
    dov1978 likes this.
    02-17-2018 06:44 PM
  12. Morty2264's Avatar
    Can I choose both? 🤣
    dmateo likes this.
    02-17-2018 06:52 PM
  13. cfclay's Avatar
    I would never consider the essential with its terrible cameras. I don't care how much it supposedly got better with software updates, the fact that the company put out a device with such a subpar camera was just dumb, IMO. P2XL is the only option here.
    Isn't it a bad app or software that drives the camera, not the hardware itself?
    dmateo likes this.
    02-17-2018 07:02 PM
  14. dmateo's Avatar
    Can I choose both? 🤣
    Of course you can!
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    02-17-2018 07:07 PM
  15. Kayza's Avatar
    The camera isn't/wasn't a deal breaker for me because I own real cameras with real glass.
    But that is only a value proposition if the camera is a deal breaker.
    The key question for a lot of us is which camera are you actually going to have with you. I used to think that since no phone camera is going to compete with my regular camera, who cares. But the reality is that my phone is the camera I have with me all the time. My digital camera enable be to take more pictures than my film camera, but the phone kicked that up by an order of magnitude.

    For people who just want to be able to take good pictures consistently with the camera they have with them, the Essential is a non-starter. There are other phones that I would consider - maybe not as good as the Pixel 2, but still worth considering.
    dov1978 likes this.
    02-17-2018 07:38 PM
  16. Kayza's Avatar
    Isn't it a bad app or software that drives the camera, not the hardware itself?
    It seems that it's a bit of both. The hardware just isn't that good. So, software upgrades will help, but the hardware doesn't seem to have the wherewithal to be a really great camera.
    02-17-2018 07:40 PM
  17. Morty2264's Avatar
    Of course you can!
    Wahoo!
    02-17-2018 08:39 PM
  18. dmateo's Avatar
    Wahoo!
    But if it were just one, which would it be? I know you're a pixel 2 fan...
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    02-17-2018 08:41 PM
  19. swagglepuff's Avatar
    Essential phone, I hate the design of the pixel. To me it's an ugly brick, camera has never been a selling point for me. Water resistance is also not a priority. It's a nice security blanket but it still doesn't guarantee that your phone won't be damaged by water. Which no manufacturer will cover in a warranty. Build quality and software are what I look at. Essential is very good about getting the latest updates and that build quality is unmatched.
    02-17-2018 11:29 PM
  20. DMP89145's Avatar
    Pixel 2XL... I mean, Essential may not even be around in a year. 88K phones sold since release... Gotta skip 8.0 cause they couldn't get it straightened out even though Essential runs "stock" Android..

    Too many unknowns, for my taste.
    02-18-2018 02:54 AM
  21. dov1978's Avatar
    I would never consider the essential with its terrible cameras. I don't care how much it supposedly got better with software updates, the fact that the company put out a device with such a subpar camera was just dumb, IMO. P2XL is the only option here.
    This. There's a few phones around just now that are fantastic in most areas but only have an average camera ie Razer Phone, Essential, OnePlus5t, HTC U11. For people who don't list photo quality or camera features high on their list then I'm sure they'll have a great experience but camera is the deciding factor in any phone I look at
    02-18-2018 03:47 AM
  22. Morty2264's Avatar
    But if it were just one, which would it be? I know you're a pixel 2 fan...
    I prefer the smaller Pixel 2; but I guess if I was faced with the Essential vs the 2XL, it would be the 2XL. I love the Essential Phone but I'm more interested in seeing what they do with their upcoming iteration. Hopefully they hit a home run with this device, because the Essential had such potential.
    02-18-2018 07:38 AM
  23. anon(10268214)'s Avatar
    I would still pick an Essential. Camera is not a deciding factor for me. For everything else, the benefits of the Essential's size, form factor, and build quality win out over whatever minor advantages the Pixel 2XL might have.
    Morty2264 likes this.
    02-18-2018 11:02 AM
  24. cfclay's Avatar
    You guys may have seen this, but the pixel was on woot for about 525 this week. That's a robust price
    02-18-2018 12:01 PM
  25. mogelijk's Avatar
    Pixel 2XL... I mean, Essential may not even be around in a year. 88K phones sold since release... Gotta skip 8.0 cause they couldn't get it straightened out even though Essential runs "stock" Android..

    Too many unknowns, for my taste.
    To be fair, Android 8.0 was a mess -- most of those that got 8.0 on their pones (mostly on Pixel and Nexus phones) had a lot of issues, just like Essential did with their beta. It is also worth noting that Samsung (who has many more employees to work on software upgrades) just barely released Android 8 for the Galaxy S8 devices and have already suspended the rollout, as users where having issues with their phones rebooting. While I'm still wanting to hear from more beta users, the early reports sound like the Essential 8.1 beta fixes the issues that were being found in the 8.0 beta.
    cfclay and Fonphreak like this.
    02-18-2018 01:12 PM
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