1. cnotes2019's Avatar
    Just wondering if it was possible to reverse an AOL ? Thanks !
    07-08-2013 08:42 AM
  2. dpham00's Avatar
    If A assumed liability from B, then the account now belongs to A. If A wants to give it back to B, then B would have to be willing to take it back, and B would follow the same process to assume liability from A

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    07-08-2013 09:22 AM
  3. cnotes2019's Avatar
    So you are saying under no circumstance will Verizon allow person A to take back the line from person B ?
    07-08-2013 11:35 AM
  4. iFebby's Avatar
    So you are saying under no circumstance will Verizon allow person A to take back the line from person B ?
    If I'm assuming correctly... Verizon would not allow person A to just take away the line from person B once the line has been given to person B. In order for person A to take back from B they would have to get person B to agree.

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    07-08-2013 11:45 AM
  5. dpham00's Avatar
    Basically, both the old and new account owners must agree. Regardless of how many times it takes place.

    The account owner can't force someone else to take the account and likewise, someone else cannot forcefully take the account away from the account owner

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    07-08-2013 02:13 PM
  6. cnotes2019's Avatar
    Thanks for the responses! Is there anything I can do if someone promised
    to pay for an unlimited line but after having it transferred to them they don't pay ? Or am I SOL?
    07-08-2013 10:08 PM
  7. cnotes2019's Avatar
    It wouldn't be fraud ? Thanks !
    07-08-2013 10:12 PM
  8. cnotes2019's Avatar
    Oh okay thanks. I appreciate the info!
    07-08-2013 10:22 PM
  9. jova33's Avatar
    Did you use PayPal? Oh wait....

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    07-08-2013 11:51 PM
  10. cnotes2019's Avatar
    ????
    07-09-2013 12:28 AM
  11. jova33's Avatar
    I meant, I bought someone's unlimited, paid with PayPal. If you pay with PayPal you could've had them pay first, then did the AOL.

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    07-09-2013 01:15 AM
  12. dpham00's Avatar
    Thanks for the responses! Is there anything I can do if someone promised
    to pay for an unlimited line but after having it transferred to them they don't pay ? Or am I SOL?
    You should have gotten payment first... But really, you can't have verizon reverse it, it really isn't their business. You can still sue in small claims for breach of contract. I hope that you had a written contract, makes it easier.

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    07-09-2013 07:56 AM
  13. cnotes2019's Avatar
    But what contract are you referring to ? Contracts are signature required. It seems like a long shot
    07-09-2013 10:05 AM
  14. mesocyclonic's Avatar
    Did you do the sale via eBay or other service? A printout of the auction listing would be helpful if you didn't explicitly sign a contract. Or, a Craigslist ad combined with something from VZW stating the line was transferred to show the terms and that the transaction occured. Any kind of written evidence of the purchase agreement is what you need. Ideally, it's a contract laying out the purchase terms.
    07-09-2013 10:41 AM
  15. cnotes2019's Avatar
    It was via cellswapper.com.
    07-09-2013 11:26 AM
  16. cnotes2019's Avatar
    The actual purchase info was not in the ad itself but through us messaging each other.
    07-09-2013 11:28 AM
  17. mesocyclonic's Avatar
    If the messages include the price, that should be proof of an agreement-at least to me, not necessarily to a small claims court.
    07-09-2013 04:02 PM
  18. dpham00's Avatar
    The actual purchase info was not in the ad itself but through us messaging each other.
    That should be adequate to sue, a formal written signed contract isn't required. You just have to prove a meeting of the minds

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    07-09-2013 06:41 PM
  19. cnotes2019's Avatar
    But what about if there was intent to give it to someone for free and I only changed my mind when that person brought it up ? I mean if its reasonable that my original intent was to give it away for free wouldn't a small claims court see that there was no big harm in allowing for that person to get it for free? If the answer is no then I guess I should ask is it worth it to go through with the suit ? Thanks everyone !
    07-09-2013 06:46 PM
  20. iFebby's Avatar
    I'd let it go. Not even worth the hassle of dealing with it all. Lesson learned either way. You don't sign the papers to your car or house without actually getting the money.

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    07-09-2013 07:03 PM
  21. dpham00's Avatar
    But what about if there was intent to give it to someone for free and I only changed my mind when that person brought it up ? I mean if its reasonable that my original intent was to give it away for free wouldn't a small claims court see that there was no big harm in allowing for that person to get it for free? If the answer is no then I guess I should ask is it worth it to go through with the suit ? Thanks everyone !
    If there was a meeting of the minds that payment would be given in exchange for the AoL BEFORE the actual transfer, then yes, you have a case. If you thought of it afterwards, then no.

    But as pointed out, it probably isn't worth your effort. You have to pay a filing fee, and have to show up to court. And if they side with you, then he would have the filing fee added onto what he owed you. BUT, a win in small claims alone is not enough to force him to pay you. You would have to get a court order to garnish his wages or take the money from his bank account, if he doesn't give it up voluntarily, and that is a major hassle, and certainly not worth it financially. Even big companies don't go after people in court and ask for a court order for such small amounts, because it isn't worth their effort.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II
    07-11-2013 09:08 AM

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