03-02-2015 08:56 AM
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  1. Fuzzy761210's Avatar
    I'm not currently a T mobile customer but I am reading up and I do have a question that I can't seem to find the answer.

    So if you are subscribing to google play music all access, there are basically 3 "sources" you music can be

    1-music available via all access(radio, simply searching, etc...)
    2-music you own but the google upload program found the match and adds it you'r library.
    3-music you own but google doesn't have it, so you uploaded it to the google servers.

    Now my understanding is that music freedom covers #1 and it doesn't cover #3 but what does #2 fall under. Technically, if I didn't have the google upload program scan my library and I just manually added them via all access it would be covered. On the flip side, I can listen to #2 & #3 without paying for all access.

    I would think T-mobile would find it difficult to know where the data is being used as playlist could have a mixture of all 3 sources.

    Can anyone test #2 and see if this counts for data if you are a all access subscriber, for me this would mean going from a 3gig plan to the 5 gig.
    01-15-2015 07:17 PM
  2. Fuzzy761210's Avatar
    no one willing to do the experiment?
    01-17-2015 11:59 AM
  3. npaladin-2000's Avatar
    According to the verbiage available from T-Mobile it should cover all streaming from Google Play Music, since it doesn't specify "All Access Only" anywhere. I posted a question in their support forums asking for confirmation but there have been no replies yet.
    01-18-2015 10:22 AM
  4. monsieurms's Avatar
    According to the verbiage available from T-Mobile it should cover all streaming from Google Play Music, since it doesn't specify "All Access Only" anywhere. I posted a question in their support forums asking for confirmation but there have been no replies yet.
    When it came out, that was not true. I must've missed the announcement, but that's awesome. If I can stream my own music from Google Play, I really don't need much of a data plan.

    However, their streaming FAQ still says:

    "What about music stored on a cloud?
    Music Freedom only includes licensed music streaming apps (such as Spotify); it does NOT include music downloads or listening to music on your cloud."
    01-20-2015 08:55 AM
  5. zhris's Avatar
    When it came out, that was not true. I must've missed the announcement, but that's awesome. If I can stream my own music from Google Play, I really don't need much of a data plan.

    However, their streaming FAQ still says:

    "What about music stored on a cloud?
    Music Freedom only includes licensed music streaming apps (such as Spotify); it does NOT include music downloads or listening to music on your cloud."
    See, I'm reading that as music you have stored on Google Drive or Dropbox or something; if T-Mobile simply whitelists the app, it really shouldn't know (or care) the source of the music, as long as it's playing from that app. Hopefully we'll get some clarification soon.
    01-20-2015 12:03 PM
  6. npaladin-2000's Avatar
    Ok, as per T-Force, Music Freedom includes ALL of Google Play Music, not just All Access.

    https://support.t-mobile.com/message/456497#456497

    "when using Google Play Music your stored library is included as part of the freedom streaming."
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    01-25-2015 12:10 PM
  7. Fuzzy761210's Avatar
    Thank you
    01-25-2015 02:13 PM
  8. monsieurms's Avatar
    Awesome.

    Will try it soon. If I kill my data plan, I promise to blame TMO--that answer was clear!
    01-25-2015 06:41 PM
  9. monsieurms's Avatar
    Just tried it. I streamed a CD. It was stored on Google Play. My data use immediately jumped up about a hundred and fifty megs. ...

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    01-25-2015 09:41 PM
  10. npaladin-2000's Avatar
    Just tried it. I streamed a CD. It was stored on Google Play. My data use immediately jumped up about a hundred and fifty megs. ...

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    As measured where?

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    01-26-2015 08:03 AM
  11. monsieurms's Avatar
    As measured where?

    Sent from my Sony Xperia Z3 using Tapatalk.
    On T-mobile's My T-Mobile App (refreshed, and I actually went to the web page it takes you to, I didn't just look at the summary in Notifications, which often only refreshes once in a blue moon...)

    I put in a call to them just this morning. They said they would get back to me. I'll let everyone know what happens.
    01-26-2015 09:07 AM
  12. Fuzzy761210's Avatar
    On T-mobile's My T-Mobile App (refreshed, and I actually went to the web page it takes you to, I didn't just look at the summary in Notifications, which often only refreshes once in a blue moon...)

    I put in a call to them just this morning. They said they would get back to me. I'll let everyone know what happens.
    any update?
    02-01-2015 03:45 PM
  13. monsieurms's Avatar
    any update?
    No, they'd said they'd get back to me by email; heard nothing.
    02-01-2015 04:55 PM
  14. RandelG's Avatar
    I have had T Mobile for about 1 year and exclusively use Google all access. Be Careful and remember that your usage as displayed on a my t-mobile account is not the actual usage that t-mobile shows in their system. I found this out by going to a tmobile store and discovered that the my T Mobile usage did not include any streaming services. meaning that I was actually using much less of my mobile (which is unlimited by the way and parentheses so that) my tmobile website is not an accurate accounting of your data usage.
    02-02-2015 03:36 PM
  15. Almeuit's Avatar
    I have had T Mobile for about 1 year and exclusively use Google all access. Be Careful and remember that your usage as displayed on a my t-mobile account is not the actual usage that t-mobile shows in their system. I found this out by going to a tmobile store and discovered that the my T Mobile usage did not include any streaming services. meaning that I was actually using much less of my mobile (which is unlimited by the way and parentheses so that) my tmobile website is not an accurate accounting of your data usage.
    My experience is different. My phones data meter pretty much mirrors my T-Mobile data usage on the site.
    02-02-2015 05:32 PM
  16. monsieurms's Avatar
    My experience is different. My phones data meter pretty much mirrors my T-Mobile data usage on the site.
    I hope so....otherwise it makes the Android app kinda useless.

    But I just checked the T-mobile website and it has exactly what my Android My T-Mobile app has (after the latter was refreshed) and ALSO show the 150 megs or so of data I streamed in playing Google music.
    02-03-2015 01:00 AM
  17. rrballer11's Avatar
    Its only for all access.

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    02-04-2015 01:48 AM
  18. npaladin-2000's Avatar
    Its only for all access.

    Posted via Android Central App
    Not according to T-mobile

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    02-04-2015 06:09 AM
  19. monsieurms's Avatar
    Not according to T-mobile

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    The response you quoted and hyperlinked was unambiguous. (Although her response may yet prove to be wrong..) The TMO rep to whom I spoke thought it was clear, too, and had no explanation.
    02-04-2015 07:43 AM
  20. npaladin-2000's Avatar
    The response you quoted and hyperlinked was unambiguous. (Although her response may yet prove to be wrong..) The TMO rep to whom I spoke thought it was clear, too, and had no explanation.
    I would assume it took them some time to reply because they escalated internally to verify. There's no way they would have posted something that unambiguous unless it was Oked by someone higher than a T-Force rep.
    02-04-2015 08:43 AM
  21. rrballer11's Avatar
    Not according to T-mobile

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    Its been like this for a few months, supposedly, its because of the music licenses, basically. It doesn't Make sense to me.. But it had to do something about personal cloud based music.

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    02-05-2015 01:18 AM
  22. Fuzzy761210's Avatar
    Seems like the ultimate test would be to see if you get throttled after going over the data plan using google play music.

    So the experiment would need to have at least 2 people try two different "types" of music on google play. I would say more people that try it the better. when you go over your data plan, tell us what happens, does your normal data usage get throttled?

    1. All access music(paid version) someone one need to make a huge playlist or use the radio station
    2. Personally uploaded music to google play.
    3. All access subscriber that listens to personal and all access music mixed together.

    To anyone wanting to try this, please clear your cache in the settings, so it increases data usage. the best way to do it is before you go to bed turn on the music you want and turn the volume down and let it eat all night. I do this from time to time to my AT&T "unlimited" data plan when a reach the 5gig a month throttled ceiling, Just out of spite.
    02-05-2015 05:07 AM
  23. npaladin-2000's Avatar
    There's nothing to test. T-mobile says it's all under music freedom. So if it is counted then they need to fix something.

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    02-05-2015 05:30 AM
  24. Almeuit's Avatar
    There's nothing to test. T-mobile says it's all under music freedom. So if it is counted then they need to fix something.

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    Where do they explicitly say it is all covered? I only ask because .. they could just be bad at displaying this information since every other streaming service is ONLY a streaming service .. but Google has this little addition unlike the others .. and if they didn't add it .. It could very well become confusing for users.
    02-05-2015 09:19 AM
  25. npaladin-2000's Avatar
    Where do they explicitly say it is all covered?
    In the T-mobile support thread I linked to earlier in this thread.

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    02-05-2015 09:44 AM
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