1. pheatton's Avatar
    My sister is looking for a new phone on VZW but does not want to get a phone through Verizon again. Other than the Nexus 6P and 5x and the new Moto X any others that work on VZW?
    12-26-2015 03:08 PM
  2. diesteldorf's Avatar
    My sister is looking for a new phone on VZW but does not want to get a phone through Verizon again. Other than the Nexus 6P and 5x and the new Moto X any others that work on VZW?
    I assume she wants to stick with android, but she could purchase an IPhone 6S from Apple.
    12-26-2015 04:22 PM
  3. cnotes2019's Avatar
    What do you mean by 'through Verizon'? I mean you don't have to buy any phone directly from Verizon but are Verizon phones like buying from sellers on SWAPPA.
    12-27-2015 06:29 PM
  4. Ry's Avatar
    My sister is looking for a new phone on VZW but does not want to get a phone through Verizon again. Other than the Nexus 6P and 5x and the new Moto X any others that work on VZW?
    iPhone 6
    iPhone 6 Plus
    iPhone 6S
    iPhone 6S Plus
    Moto X Pure Edition (third gen/2015)
    Nexus 6
    Nexus 5X
    Nexus 6P

    Posted via the Android Central App on the Moto X Pure Edition
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    12-27-2015 07:50 PM
  5. dpham00's Avatar
    5s also works
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    12-28-2015 06:43 AM
  6. RHChan84's Avatar
    5s also works
    I thought the 5S was carrier specific (CDMA/GSM) and only the iPhone 6/6+ and newer are the only the only iPhones that works across the board for all carriers with one modem to cover all spectrum of radios.

    Or check out Swappa or eBay and find a phone that works on VZW network and buy it that way. But like Ry said, other then the phones he listed and eBay/Swappa, there isn't any other unlocked phones that work on VZW. Manufactures are slowly leaning towards that.
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    12-29-2015 01:53 PM
  7. dpham00's Avatar
    I thought the 5S was carrier specific (CDMA/GSM) and only the iPhone 6/6+ and newer are the only the only iPhones that works across the board for all carriers with one modem to cover all spectrum of radios.

    Or check out Swappa or eBay and find a phone that works on VZW network and buy it that way. But like Ry said, other then the phones he listed and eBay/Swappa, there isn't any other unlocked phones that work on VZW. Manufactures are slowly leaning towards that.
    That's incorrect. There are 2 6s models sold in the usa,and they have very similar but not identical radios. For example a Verizon 6s doesn't contain ALL the radios that the att 6s has,although it has most. The Verizon model is a subset of the att model,radio wise.

    With regards to the 5s,yes there are more models but the att, tmobile, and Verizon models are the same model number. An att 5s on Verizon would work just as well as a Verizon 5s,and vice versa. Now there are 5s models that won't work on Verizon or tmobile and att...
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    12-29-2015 02:57 PM
  8. diesteldorf's Avatar
    That's incorrect. There are 2 6s models sold in the usa,and they have very similar but not identical radios. For example a Verizon 6s doesn't contain ALL the radios that the att 6s has,although it has most. The Verizon model is a subset of the att model,radio wise.

    With regards to the 5s,yes there are more models but the att, tmobile, and Verizon models are the same model number. An att 5s on Verizon would work just as well as a Verizon 5s,and vice versa. Now there are 5s models that won't work on Verizon or tmobile and att...
    Dpham is correct, but you are still going to want to look at the entire picture before making a decision.

    At this point, the A1633 (6S) and A1634 (6S+) are the most comprehensive when it comes down to the number of radio bands supported. You can get them from AT&T--locked to AT&T--or directly from Apple--Unlocked

    All those poor schmucks on Sprint, Verizon, and even Tmobile are stuck with the A1688 (6S) or A1687 (6S+). The only difference between all of the devices is ONE Radio Band--support, or lack of, for Band 30

    PSA: Apple’s iPhone 6s CDMA spec change makes AT&T’s model its best worldphone | 9to5Mac

    Last year, the Verizon Iphone 6/6+ and the AT&T 6/6+ both used the same model #s A1522 and A1549 and were identical from a GSM/LTE perspective EXCEPT the Verizon version supported CDMA.

    However, if you were looking for the model with the most comprehensive radio bands, you had to go to SPRINT or buy direct from Apple and get the A1586 or A1524.

    Both of those models support bands 38, 39, 40, and 41. Not really a big deal in the US, since Sprint is the only one that uses them, if I recall correctly, for their High Speed "Spark" LTE.

    Prior to this year, Sprint was a real hard *** when it came to unlocking phones, so, if you didn't want to buy from Apple or deal with Sprint, you could buy an already unlocked Verizon A1522 or A1549 and be perfectly fine.

    Now a couple of observations:

    1) None of the Iphone 6 (or even 5S models) from any carrier or Apple directly support Band 30

    2) If you are "lucky" enough to be on Sprint, their Spark LTE can be extremely fast, but if your phone doesn't support bands 38, 39, 40, 41 and you are not fortunate enough to be on Sprint, you have nothing to be upset about.

    I recently sold a Sprint Iphone 6S+ and listed it as being unlocked and compatible with Sprint, Verizon, TMobile, and AT&T. It was an A1687 not an A1634. I disclosed that information to the eventual buyer and they were happy, and of course, it didn't support Band 30. However, it was just as compatible with AT&T as the Iphone 5S and Iphone 6, since they don't support Band 30 either.

    WTS: Iphone 6S Plus 64 GB Rose Gold Unlocked - iPhone, iPad, iPod Forums at iMore.com

    Obviously, if price and availability is completely equal, make sure you run out and get the phone that supports Band 30, but, since most AT&T customers probably lack support for Band 30, I can assume it isn't a huge issue.

    If you can save money and.or aggravation, get the 6S Unlocked from any other carrier, besides AT&T and don't worry.

    Apple iPhone Specs (All iPhone Models) @ EveryiPhone.com

    By the time band 30 gets to be a critical requirement, most people will probably have new phones.

    I am hoping one of the carriers deploys service on Band 69, so I can run out and buy THAT phone. Then I can tell everyone that my phone supports Band 69, and am showing my support for the manufacturer that believes 69 is an integral part of the American cellular experience.

    Even if Band 69 is only good for those lucky enough to live in an underground bunker in Roswell, New Mexico, my phone will be locked and loaded. However, I'll still keep my other non-banded 69 phones around for kicks.

    My apologies for the outside linkage, but I wanted people to have easy access anything dealing with Apple and radio bands. It can be really hard to keep everything straight.

    The marketplace listing is already closed and sold and I'm not trying to self-promote, but I thought the pictures may be beneficial to some.

    As someone that has both Verizon and Sprint, I consider myself a double-schmuck. If AT&T happens to do something truly magical with Band 30, I may become a triple schmuck, but until that happens I'll be content to use whatever Iphone 6S I can get quick and cheap.
    Attached Thumbnails Unlocked phones that work on VZW?-iphoneb2.jpg  
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    12-29-2015 08:42 PM
  9. dpham00's Avatar
    I take it that those that want to buy a phone over 12 months old don't really require the top of the line specs but wanted something cheaper. Lack of band 30 support isn't a big deal, unless you are in an urban area which has high load causing slow speeds. Band 30 is 2.3ghz,used to extend capacity in areas where the other bands are not sufficient.
    12-30-2015 07:03 AM
  10. diesteldorf's Avatar
    I take it that those that want to buy a phone over 12 months old don't really require the top of the line specs but wanted something cheaper. Lack of band 30 support isn't a big deal, unless you are in an urban area which has high load causing slow speeds. Band 30 is 2.3ghz,used to extend capacity in areas where the other bands are not sufficient.
    Thanks for the info, as I wasn't really aware of the specifics. I assumed it was something used to provide extra capacity but wasn't critical for those that didn't have it.

    It may be a bad comparison, but it sounds similar to Verizon's Band 4, which is used to provide extra capacity when Band 13 is at high capacity, IIRC.
    12-30-2015 12:22 PM
  11. dpham00's Avatar
    Thanks for the info, as I wasn't really aware of the specifics. I assumed it was something used to provide extra capacity but wasn't critical for those that didn't have it.

    It may be a bad comparison, but it sounds similar to Verizon's Band 4, which is used to provide extra capacity when Band 13 is at high capacity, IIRC.
    Yeah it will be a somewhat similar concept except that att already has lte bands 2 and 4 and for capacity. They also have band 5 to assist with building penetration and capacity.


    My guess would be that this would be more like band 2 lte deployment on Verizon.
    12-30-2015 12:31 PM
  12. gimpy1's Avatar
    Motorola droid turbo can now be boot loader unlocked and rooted. I unlocked mine last week and rooted it yesterday
    01-03-2016 06:26 PM
  13. Ry's Avatar
    Motorola droid turbo can now be boot loader unlocked and rooted. I unlocked mine last week and rooted it yesterday
    Looks like this discussion is about SIM unlocking, not Bootloader unlocking.

    Posted via the Android Central App on the Moto X Pure Edition
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    01-03-2016 08:33 PM
  14. dpham00's Avatar
    Looks like this discussion is about SIM unlocking, not Bootloader unlocking.

    Posted via the Android Central App on the Moto X Pure Edition
    This thread is also about unlocked phones(presumably non Verizon branded) that work on Verizon
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    01-04-2016 06:51 AM
  15. pheatton's Avatar
    Exactly what I was looking for thanks!

    iPhone 6
    iPhone 6 Plus
    iPhone 6S
    iPhone 6S Plus
    Moto X Pure Edition (third gen/2015)
    Nexus 6
    Nexus 5X
    Nexus 6P

    Posted via the Android Central App on the Moto X Pure Edition
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    01-19-2016 08:45 AM

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