1. andrphoid's Avatar
    Hi,
    New to the forum here and im currently on the windows phone platform. Just wondering if anyone here (im sure there's someone) has switched from wp8 or wp8.1 to android? Any regrets? Contract is up and im looking for a change. Thanks!



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    10-18-2014 09:59 PM
  2. salmanahmad's Avatar
    I've been an Android user, ever since I got interested in smart phones. I tried the entry level Lumia 520 running Windows Phone 8.1, but eventually moved back to Android.

    Don't get me wrong Windows Phones are okay but they just didn't do for me, what Android could do i.e. video transcoding in the background, no expandable/interactive notifications, etc. And the apps are just terrible(many of them at least).,

    Unless you like the live tiles, I'm pretty sure you won't miss anything from Windows Phone.
    10-19-2014 05:38 AM
  3. gdmin's Avatar
    Wp 8.1 is so smooth but slow... Everytime changing app to one another is wasting my time from 2 - 5 seconds depending on the light/heavy apps. It will have that "resuming..." animation.. Imagine how many times i'm changin apps a day.

    On android let's say the cheap one # moto g changing app are instantly.

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    10-19-2014 06:42 AM
  4. salmanahmad's Avatar
    Wp 8.1 is so smooth but slow... Everytime changing app to one another is wasting my time from 2 - 5 seconds depending on the light/heavy apps. It will have that "resuming..." animation.. Imagine how many times i'm changin apps a day.

    On android let's say the cheap one # moto g changing app are instantly.

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    Just to be fair, the resuming usually only occurs on low end devices, the higher end ones are safe from it.

    But nonetheless it is nothing compared to the fluidity of multitasking on Android, especially after Android 4.4 KitKat.
    10-19-2014 07:09 AM
  5. gdmin's Avatar
    Just to be fair, the resuming usually only occurs on low end devices, the higher end ones are safe from it.

    But nonetheless it is nothing compared to the fluidity of multitasking on Android, especially after Android 4.4 KitKat.
    Microsoft should fix that either by lowering their hardware price or fixing their os. I usually buy middle range phone of certain brand / os first before i jump to the higher one.

    I they fix that i'll probably buy wp again as my backup phone. The first try only lasted me maybe 7 days before i dumped it.

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    10-19-2014 09:18 AM
  6. salmanahmad's Avatar
    Microsoft should fix that either by lowering their hardware price or fixing their os. I usually buy middle range phone of certain brand / os first before i jump to the higher one.

    I they fix that i'll probably buy wp again as my backup phone. The first try only lasted me maybe 7 days before i dumped it.

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    Lol multitasking is probably at the bottom of the list of the things that they need to fix.
    10-19-2014 10:39 AM
  7. andrphoid's Avatar
    How similar and different ate the live tiles in comparison to widgets? I do like the live tiles concept but I heard widgets are like live tiles buy with functionality. Im not a real big app person...in looking for efficiency and customization. I feel both, WP and android are customizable, with android being more so than windows but I also feel windows is more efficient, as in pinning live tiles, receiving info from the live tiles, etc. Thanks again everyone.

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    10-19-2014 01:28 PM
  8. anon6002755's Avatar
    Just to be fair, the resuming usually only occurs on low end devices, the higher end ones are safe from it.

    But nonetheless it is nothing compared to the fluidity of multitasking on Android, especially after Android 4.4 KitKat.




    I'll put a strong emphasis on the usually. I use a Lumia icon and have plenty of resuming. There shouldn't be a big learning curve.





    Your options to customize will be much greater. Widgets are great. Like live tiles but more lively.



    Also with the more efficiency part I dont really see a big difference on either. I have random battery drain issues on WP from rogue apps like I did on android. Also android has come along quite well.

    I will be switching back to android fulltime this weekend when the note 4 comes in. I wont have any regrets at all. All of my Microsoft services that I use daily are available on android.
    10-19-2014 01:37 PM
  9. gdmin's Avatar
    Lol multitasking is probably at the bottom of the list of the things that they need to fix.
    I dont know if this is sarcasm or what...
    I use lumia 825 trying to compare it with android on similar price found a friend with moto g (yes moto g is cheaper) but the app changing is so much faster between 2 - 4 seconds. I use bbm all the time so i use this app to compare.

    The second problem, i cant find yahoo messenger.. They probably need to fix the lack apps also.
    How similar and different ate the live tiles in comparison to widgets? I do like the live tiles concept but I heard widgets are like live tiles buy with functionality. Im not a real big app person...in looking for efficiency and customization. I feel both, WP and android are customizable, with android being more so than windows but I also feel windows is more efficient, as in pinning live tiles, receiving info from the live tiles, etc. Thanks again everyone.

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    It similar but more live and customizable you can have player control, replying to a chat without having to open the chat app, sms, twitter timeline, facebook, etc

    It depends on the app though. Some apps even have no widget at all.

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    10-19-2014 06:29 PM
  10. andrphoid's Avatar
    Oh, so not all the apps have widget capabilities? What percentage of android apps have it?

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    10-20-2014 12:06 PM
  11. A895's Avatar
    Oh, so not all the apps have widget capabilities? What percentage of android apps have it?

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    It depends on the app itself, if you use Twitter, Facebook, Calendar or other apps similar, there will be a widget. If it is an app you expect a widget for, there will be a widget.
    10-20-2014 12:32 PM
  12. raptir's Avatar
    Yeah, a game isn't typically going to have a widget but basically every other app on my phone does.

    The focus of widgets is different from my understanding of live tiles though. I haven't used Windows Phone, but in Windows 8 on tablets the live tiles seem to be something of a notification replacement for items where notifications aren't critical. Some Android widgets function that way, but they are more quick ways to interact with an application or view the information available in an application at a glance. For example, while the Mail live tile in Windows 8 shows you a count of unread e-mail, the Gmail widget actually shows me my inbox and allows me to scroll through it and select an e-mail or start a new e-mail. Wunderlist allows me to scroll through my different lists and check off items or go to a list to add a new item.The "notification" functionality of the live tiles is really managed through the Android notification drawer.
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    10-20-2014 02:26 PM
  13. utopiate's Avatar
    I had WP for 4 years from when they released WP7. I first had a Samsung Omnia 7 which I can honestly say was probably the best phone I'd ever had. That said the software couldn't be upgraded (7-8) which screwed many peeps including myself. I stuck with it and bought a HTC 8X which is a superb looking phone but very buggy. I enrolled in the dev preview and had 8.1 which eventually made it a bit better but at that point I had already decided to return to droid. One of my biggest problems was the fact they got rid of zune and replaced it with xbox music????? this drove me nuts as I had a phone with WP8.1 which ended up being an inferior experience to my omnia running v7.8

    I'm now back on droid with the Note 4 and am so glad I have come back. Now, if I don't like something, I just change it. If your into customization as you said then you'll be very happy with droid
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    10-20-2014 02:41 PM
  14. WillGrey's Avatar
    I just switched from a Lumia 920 to a Note 4 a few days ago and it's been a comfortable experience so far. It feels great in the hand and I'm personally enjoying how fast it is, and how the camera performs. Haven't had a chance to really explore everything just yet.

    In terms of widgets vs live tiles: I always saw live tiles as not being that effective in conveying information, because you have no real control over when they flip. Most of the time, it's easier to just open the apps and see the information within the app rather than stare at the live tiles for ages waiting for them to flip.

    Widgets are a lot more effective in conveying information. But it's not all that great either, because you need them to be big to convey information effectively, but sometimes you just want them small. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    10-20-2014 02:57 PM
  15. anon6002755's Avatar
    On the front page of androidcentral there is an article about Samsungs handfree program on the S5. My biggest regret that i can think of now is how well windows phones work over bluetooth while driving. I'll miss being alerted, having my messages read to me if i want them to be, and being able to reply to them all hands free. I'm sure there is an app but wp8 implemented that feature exceptionally well.
    10-21-2014 01:51 PM
  16. worwig's Avatar
    If the apps were there, I would likely be using a WP right now. But the apps aren't there. Moving to Android, the number of apps out there is awesome. I have been able to find almost everything I would want.
    10-21-2014 02:00 PM
  17. andrphoid's Avatar
    Worwig: im not a big apps guy so what is it about WP that you like?

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    10-22-2014 09:35 AM
  18. andrphoid's Avatar
    Although Im not a big app person i have to agree, the quality of the apps on ios and android are better and have more features compared to WP.

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    10-23-2014 04:37 PM
  19. anon6002755's Avatar
    Although Im not a big app person i have to agree, the quality of the apps on ios and android are better and have more features compared to WP.

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    They are generally much better. Not a big app guy myself either.
    10-24-2014 01:06 AM
  20. andrphoid's Avatar
    One concern that I do have with Android is security issues, such as malware attacks....is that really a big problem? I've hears that one reason android isn't used in enterprises is bc of security issues. Thanks in advance.

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    10-27-2014 03:15 PM
  21. gdmin's Avatar
    One concern that I do have with Android is security issues, such as malware attacks....is that really a big problem? I've hears that one reason android isn't used in enterprises is bc of security issues. Thanks in advance.

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    Download only from playstore and you'll be fine.

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    10-29-2014 08:29 AM
  22. andrphoid's Avatar
    Which is more efficient? For example, one thing I hate about ios is the fact that you have to go in apps to obtain info, hit the home button, find the back arrow button to go back, "X" button to close apps, etc. I just find this so inefficient. Where as android and windows you have widgets and live tiles to portray info and better yet, with widgets, you can control the app w/o needing to open it (i.e. Controlling sound and switching tracks on Music players, answering texts and emails).

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    11-14-2014 09:22 AM
  23. Rukbat's Avatar
    Once you learn the particular phone, it's amazing how fast you can open an app, change something, get some information and close the app. I've seen people do it on an iPhone as quickly as I can do it with an Android widget. (Then again, my daughter texts at about 60wpm. I'm lucky if I can hunt and peck on a phone, but I can type faster than she can on a real keyboard.) What you're good at you're efficient at. It's more the level of experience than the phone.

    As for security, if it's connected to the internet, it's not. A phone, a desktop, a washing machine. They haven't found a way to send a virus down a powerline (yet, as far as I know), but they used to say that Linux was secure - until someone almost brought the entire internet down. If you want security, write it on paper and burn before reading. Then mix the ashes with water and stir.

    If a good Windows phone had come out before Android, I'd probably be on a Windows phone (I can write Windows apps, I can't write Android apps yet), but everything I do when I'm not at my desk is Android, so I'm kind of committed to it - and I can find an app for just about anything I want to do.
    11-15-2014 01:35 AM
  24. salmanahmad's Avatar
    Once you learn the particular phone, it's amazing how fast you can open an app, change something, get some information and close the app. I've seen people do it on an iPhone as quickly as I can do it with an Android widget. (Then again, my daughter texts at about 60wpm. I'm lucky if I can hunt and peck on a phone, but I can type faster than she can on a real keyboard.) What you're good at you're efficient at. It's more the level of experience than the phone.

    As for security, if it's connected to the internet, it's not. A phone, a desktop, a washing machine. They haven't found a way to send a virus down a powerline (yet, as far as I know), but they used to say that Linux was secure - until someone almost brought the entire internet down. If you want security, write it on paper and burn before reading. Then mix the ashes with water and stir.

    If a good Windows phone had come out before Android, I'd probably be on a Windows phone (I can write Windows apps, I can't write Android apps yet), but everything I do when I'm not at my desk is Android, so I'm kind of committed to it - and I can find an app for just about anything I want to do.
    What you said about security is totally spot on.

    But I wanted to pitch in about writing apps. I took an online course over at Channel 9 MSDN on developing an app for Windows Phone using Visual C#. It was pretty awesome but being the procrastinator that I am I didn't finish it.

    I would love to find a similar app development tutorial on Android. I really want to make a faster Facebook app, if Facebook's API allows it.
    11-15-2014 12:20 PM
  25. Rukbat's Avatar
    1) Any app anyone writes for Facebook would probably be better than the one Facebook gives us. (Talk about Hoovering [to keep it clean for a family forum].) I have to run my phone on my router's guest account to get anything to load during my next few lifetimes. (My browsers work on the regular account, so ...)

    2) Android is Java. Java is C-ish enough that if you know C#, and you remember that not everything in Java is an object (scalar variables are just scalar variables), you should be able to read Java pretty easily.

    It's knowing the Android environment - what you have, the APIs, the classes available, etc. I've written tons of code in Java, but right now my best effort in writing an Android app would probably make the Facebook app look great. (I've modified one of the sample apps - trivially - and it compiled, so I know that I can compile an Android app - and that's about as far as I've gotten.)
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    11-15-2014 02:41 PM

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