1. MetroMan3's Avatar
    Hey guys, new member here. I was advised to post this question here.

    Basically I just upgraded to a new phone, LG Aristo 3, from the LG Optimus L70. One of the perks of the Optimus was that I was able to disable system updates early on from when I got the phone. Truth be told that's why I stuck with LGs instead of trying out Samsung smarthphones when it came to upgrade. Anyway Ive done the usual of taking auto app updates off and (I thought) system updates too but I received a notification today that a system update was available and that I would only be able to postpone until the 24th and after that the update would happen automatically. My carrier is MetroPCS and I'm running Android 8.1. Will it be possible to put off the system update indefinitely or am I out of luck?
    02-17-2019 03:36 PM
  2. Mooncatt's Avatar
    Carriers can try to lock down the ability to prevent updates. I don't have that phone, but I do have the LG V20. In my app manager, there's two "System Updates" apps. One I can disable, and the other will not. The one I can't disable is what checks for OTA updates, but I can force close it. So I'd double check in your app manager to see if you can do the same (will likely need to select the menu option to show system apps).

    In my case, I can force close the one System Updates app, which takes away the pending update notification. It will stay closed until I restart the phone, so it's a minor annoyance. TMO may have changed up things to prevent this from working on yours, so I can't promise this will work.
    02-17-2019 03:52 PM
  3. Rukbat's Avatar
    If you root the phone, you can freeze the OTA update app(s), and not be bothered with updates. (Of course, that means that you don't get security patches either - they're contained in updates. Which is why you should keep the phone updated.)
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    02-17-2019 03:55 PM
  4. MetroMan3's Avatar
    My options...
    Attached Thumbnails How can I prevent a system update on my LG Aristo 3?-screenshot_2019-02-17-16-56-41.png   How can I prevent a system update on my LG Aristo 3?-screenshot_2019-02-17-16-57-24.png   How can I prevent a system update on my LG Aristo 3?-screenshot_2019-02-17-16-57-38.png  
    02-17-2019 04:00 PM
  5. Mooncatt's Avatar
    Do you not have an option for "application manager?" If not, try looking inside the Apps and Notifications option. The screenshots you posted look to be from the general settings menu, and you'll need to explore through that to find the actual app list.
    02-17-2019 04:19 PM
  6. MetroMan3's Avatar
    I looked around and didn't see anything labeled "application manager" or something similar. Here's what I have for apps and notifications.
    Attached Thumbnails How can I prevent a system update on my LG Aristo 3?-screenshot_2019-02-17-17-23-51.png  
    02-17-2019 04:27 PM
  7. MetroMan3's Avatar
    Clicking any of those doesn't lead me anywhere regarding system updates. If needed I can post screenshots of what each leads to.
    02-17-2019 04:55 PM
  8. MetroMan3's Avatar
    Upon closer inspection I came across these. Would I be on the right track here or not?
    Attached Thumbnails How can I prevent a system update on my LG Aristo 3?-screenshot_2019-02-17-18-00-29.png   How can I prevent a system update on my LG Aristo 3?-screenshot_2019-02-17-18-00-32.png   How can I prevent a system update on my LG Aristo 3?-screenshot_2019-02-17-18-01-14.png   How can I prevent a system update on my LG Aristo 3?-screenshot_2019-02-17-18-01-52.png   How can I prevent a system update on my LG Aristo 3?-screenshot_2019-02-17-18-02-04.png  

    How can I prevent a system update on my LG Aristo 3?-screenshot_2019-02-17-18-02-20.png   How can I prevent a system update on my LG Aristo 3?-screenshot_2019-02-17-18-02-30.png   How can I prevent a system update on my LG Aristo 3?-screenshot_2019-02-17-18-02-35.png  
    02-17-2019 05:19 PM
  9. Mooncatt's Avatar
    Upon closer inspection I came across these. Would I be on the right track here or not?
    I think your first screenshot of the software updates could possibly be it. You can force close it and see if the update notification goes away.
    02-17-2019 07:21 PM
  10. Tim1954's Avatar
    And if none of that wants to work you could firewall the app and block it that way...
    02-17-2019 08:35 PM
  11. MetroMan3's Avatar
    I think your first screenshot of the software updates could possibly be it. You can force close it and see if the update notification goes away.
    That didn't work. I received this today.
    Attached Thumbnails How can I prevent a system update on my LG Aristo 3?-screenshot_2019-02-18-06-39-48.png  
    02-18-2019 07:46 AM
  12. MetroMan3's Avatar
    "Firewall the app"?

    How do I do that?
    02-18-2019 07:48 AM
  13. Mooncatt's Avatar
    Was that notice there when you tried to force close the Software Update app? If so, did it cause the notice to do away and then came back on its own?

    I'd also go back to the Software Update in your app info settings and see if the force stop option is available again (meaning it restarted itself). If so, try closing it again and see if the notice goes away. If you already dismissed the notice, then try the force close option the next time instead of dismissing the notice. If that isn't working, then I'd check through your app info screen for other apps with similar names, including viewing system apps, and try force closing them to find the culprit.
    02-18-2019 08:09 AM
  14. Tim1954's Avatar
    I use Adguard, it has a firewall and it's own VPN in the device. The firewall can block connections on an app by app basis..
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    02-18-2019 08:25 AM
  15. MetroMan3's Avatar
    "Was that notice there when you tried to force close the Software Update app?"

    Yesterday it wasn't. I had dismissed it before posting on here. Today when I saw the notification again I decided to take a screenshot before diamissing it. It didn't occur to me to leave it there for testing purposes.

    "If so, did it cause the notice to do away and then came back on its own?"

    I'll have to test that out tomorrow since Im sure I'll get another notification.

    "I'd also go back to the Software Update in your app info settings and see if the force stop option is available again (meaning it restarted itself). "

    The force stop option is still unavailable.

    "If that isn't working, then I'd check through your app info screen for other apps with similar names, including viewing system apps, and try force closing them to find the culprit."

    Software update was inside the app info options to "show system". Can't randomly force stopping apps mess with the phone system? Or am I just overestimating the risk?
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    02-18-2019 08:55 AM
  16. Mooncatt's Avatar
    Can't randomly force stopping apps mess with the phone system? Or am I just overestimating the risk?
    It can cause some issues, but nothing major. The OS will restart an app if needed in most cases (so I guess my system update app is never needed? Lol), and a restart will set things to normal in a worst case scenario. Even still, you do want to be somewhat methodical so you don't have to try so many apps. For example, the Flash Player app has nothing to do with system updates, so no need to force close it.
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    02-18-2019 11:24 AM
  17. MetroMan3's Avatar
    I searched around and these are the only options available relating to any updates. When I receive the notification tomorrow I'll put them all to the test and post what happens on here. Thanks again for all the help so far guys!
    Attached Thumbnails How can I prevent a system update on my LG Aristo 3?-2019-02-18-13.52.52.jpg  
    02-18-2019 12:58 PM
  18. MetroMan3's Avatar
    Alright, so the notice appeared again. I didn't dismiss it this time and went through all apps and force stopping and/or disabling everything I saw might be relevant to my issue. I ended up resetting a bunch of settings to default but no luck on making the system update notification icon disappearing, it's still there. Maybe they just made it impossible to get around that on this model?
    02-19-2019 07:52 AM
  19. Mooncatt's Avatar
    Dang, I'm out of ideas then. On my wife's old S7, she was able to simply ignore the notification. It stayed permanently, but it never updated as long as she didn't respond to it, which was surprising. You may get lucky as well.
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    02-19-2019 07:56 AM
  20. MetroMan3's Avatar
    Thanks Mooncatt, I hope I do get lucky. My main reason for not wanting these updates in the first place is because of the space they hog up on your phone. This one will be 500 MB which by itself itsnt bad but I dont know if it'll make any cosmetic changes which will make the user interface more of a pain to navigate or mess with any other setting or files. Plus as soon as the lovely employees at T-Mobile cook up another update that'll be another 500 MB most likely. Over time that will add up. I checked out Tim1954's suggestion on AdGuard but since it doesn't seem to be an app issue (possibly) it doesnt seem like it would fix this issue. Maybe I'll look into finding out how to root this phone if the update does end up forcing itself on me.
    02-19-2019 08:12 AM
  21. Mooncatt's Avatar
    Thanks Mooncatt, I hope I do get lucky. My main reason for not wanting these updates in the first place is because of the space they hog up on your phone. This one will be 500 MB which by itself itsnt bad but I dont know if it'll make any cosmetic changes which will make the user interface more of a pain to navigate or mess with any other setting or files. Plus as soon as the lovely employees at T-Mobile cook up another update that'll be another 500 MB most likely. Over time that will add up. I checked out Tim1954's suggestion on AdGuard but since it doesn't seem to be an app issue (possibly) it doesnt seem like it would fix this issue. Maybe I'll look into finding out how to root this phone if the update does end up forcing itself on me.
    I'm not a fan of updates as well due to past bad experiences. Don't worry about the space, though. The download size isn't the installed size. The update may use a bit more space, but much of it is replacement code and not additional code.
    02-19-2019 08:28 AM
  22. Rukbat's Avatar
    There's nothing in Android to block an app. Force stopping an app does it for now, but if Android gets a notice to run the app it runs. As I said, the only way of stopping that is to root the phone, then install an app, like Titanium Backup, to freeze the app. You can keep posting screen shots, but there's nothing there - you have to install an app to do it.

    Firewalling may stop updates, but it also may not work. (You can firewall any app you install - you may not be able to firewall a system app - it depends on the phone and the firewall. And it's much less likely to be possible with a "no root" firewall.)

    But without rooting the phone, stopping a system update isn't going to happen. (And if the phone isn't doing a seamless update [an a and a b system] stopping an update in the middle will result in a phone you probably can't fix - it will be dead after you stop the update.)
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    02-19-2019 12:05 PM
  23. Mooncatt's Avatar
    There's nothing in Android to block an app. Force stopping an app does it for now, but if Android gets a notice to run the app it runs. As I said, the only way of stopping that is to root the phone, then install an app, like Titanium Backup, to freeze the app. You can keep posting screen shots, but there's nothing there - you have to install an app to do it.
    I guess my phone is a unicorn, because none of that applies to mine. The only time Android restarts my system update app is after a restart. If it did restart the app, I'd know it because the update notice would pop-up again. I was skeptical at first, but I've held off the Oreo update for months at this point with no rooting or installing of other apps. That's why I took such an interest trying to help MetroMan3, hoping that LG had a similar method across the board. I fully accept the possibility that isn't the case for him, but was certainly worth looking into.
    02-19-2019 12:35 PM
  24. Rukbat's Avatar
    No reason to apologize. It's just that you can't prevent an update (thanks, Google, but as a software developer I can understand their not wanting to have to handle a bug that was fixed in the latest update), without freezing the update app with Link2SD or Titanium (or maybe another app of the same kind that I'm unaware of).
    02-19-2019 12:57 PM
  25. MetroMan3's Avatar
    Just an update. I even tried going into developer settings and turning off auto updates from there. No luck though, Im still getting the notification to update. Im just shocked that they arent giving people an option to opt out to at least a certain number of times. They certainly aren't making phones like they used to. Oh well. Thanks again for all your help though guys.
    02-21-2019 09:19 AM

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