1. Android Central Question's Avatar
    I have a new phone out the box 2 days and i ran IP blacklist checker and it was on 2 blackslists already
    my old cheap phone which I use for every site isnt on any

    I thought a new phone with old sim is a new IP address?
    I was told phone shouldnt have a static Ip on phone network but never changes for me

    why is it on barrcuda blacklist already and my old 3 year old phone not?
    10-02-2019 05:22 PM
  2. mustang7757's Avatar
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    10-02-2019 05:24 PM
  3. GeauxMETS's Avatar
    hi
    is it the sim card or the phone which determines your IP?

    I have only had my new phone a week and thought would check spamrat. expected it to be clear but got told I am grade C the worst offnder who carries out attacks and spam etc!!! Thought they had got it wrong as nothing of the sort been done and have only looked at sports scores in last week anyway and sent a few emails

    so checked from my partners phone which she has had for 3 years, hers was clear! she is on different cell company too

    I tried to email them but says my IP is dynamic so cant but I remember in the last 7 days its remained the same

    Im really confused how a week old phone can be on spam lists already, anyone help with this one?

    thanks
    10-02-2019 06:07 PM
  4. mustang7757's Avatar
    Hi , welcome !
    I've heard IMEI number being black listed , not IP address
    10-02-2019 07:41 PM
  5. GeauxMETS's Avatar
    The phone is from a different company to the sim data
    who is to blame for this? the company who owns the phone or the company giving me the data?
    10-02-2019 08:03 PM
  6. ManiacJoe's Avatar
    IP address blocking is a very efficient method of blocking spam as long as the blocking list is actively maintained.
    Which block list are you in? (Not all IP lists are block lists.)

    The external IP address belongs to the wifi router or cell system you are connected to, not your phone. Your wifi IP address is most likely dynamically assigned by your ISP from its list of available IP addresses. Often times if you power down your wifi router and wait 5-10 minutes you may get a new IP address assigned to your router.
    10-02-2019 08:05 PM
  7. ManiacJoe's Avatar
    10-02-2019 08:20 PM
  8. mustang7757's Avatar
    IP address blocking is a very efficient method of blocking spam as long as the blocking list is actively maintained.
    Which block list are you in? (Not all IP lists are block lists.)

    The external IP address belongs to the wifi router or cell system you are connected to, not your phone. Your wifi IP address is most likely dynamically assigned by your ISP from its list of available IP addresses. Often times if you power down your wifi router and wait 5-10 minutes you may get a new IP address assigned to your router.
    I have to remember to tag you on these things
    10-02-2019 08:44 PM
  9. mustang7757's Avatar
    Good question ...
    [QUOTE=ManiacJoe;6658915]Duplicate thread?
    10-02-2019 08:53 PM
  10. belodion's Avatar
    ^^ I don't know, but merged.
    10-03-2019 06:11 AM
  11. GeauxMETS's Avatar
    IP address blocking is a very efficient method of blocking spam as long as the blocking list is actively maintained.
    Which block list are you in? (Not all IP lists are block lists.)

    The external IP address belongs to the wifi router or cell system you are connected to, not your phone. Your wifi IP address is most likely dynamically assigned by your ISP from its list of available IP addresses. Often times if you power down your wifi router and wait 5-10 minutes you may get a new IP address assigned to your router.
    quite a few I checked all had me blocked on a couple. Barracuda had me in all one
    something called spam rats had me down as the worst offender. My IP changes everything but all of them are rated bad,,

    Alert: Your IP is part of a network listed as a Worst Offender

    This is a Worst Offender Alert and this means that not only this IP address, but the whole class 'C' is also on the indicated SpamRats List. Usually this means the whole range has the same issue of naming conventions or no reverse DNS AND that many IP's from this Class C have been used in Spam Attacks, Dictionary attacks or other forms of attacks, as detected by Mail Servers in the Data Collection Grid. You will NOT be able to use the removal form to remove your IP Addresses. If you have recently been assigned the IP Addresses, or have changed what these IP Addresses are used for, you can use the contact form and ask for a reclassification, but you will have to provide full disclosure, including whois for the ip addresses, your affiliation with the company that owns them, and a description of what the IP's were previously used for, and what they will be used for, in order for a Spam Auditor to consider reclassification. Remember, the majority of the IP's in this space WERE detected as being involved in some form of attack or abusive behaviour, so you had better have a good reason to ask for removal, and you need to own or control the IP addresses, as evidenced by ARIN whois.
    10-03-2019 11:33 AM
  12. Rukbat's Avatar
    quite a few I checked all had me blocked
    Not you - your ISP (if you're on WiFi) or your carrier (if you're on mobile data). It has nothing to do with the phone or the SIM.

    It sounds more like an email designed to gather valid email addresses than anything else. I've been on the internet since before it was the internet - and unless it was directly from ARIN (and I'd check the headers to make sure), I'd just delete it.
    10-03-2019 12:19 PM
  13. GeauxMETS's Avatar
    Not you - your ISP (if you're on WiFi) or your carrier (if you're on mobile data). It has nothing to do with the phone or the SIM.

    It sounds more like an email designed to gather valid email addresses than anything else. I've been on the internet since before it was the internet - and unless it was directly from ARIN (and I'd check the headers to make sure), I'd just delete it.
    so i complain to the carrier?
    10-03-2019 03:16 PM
  14. ManiacJoe's Avatar
    If the IP address of your wifi router is listed, most likely the real problem is your ISP. Some bad ISPs do not police their customers like they should. The long-term bad actions of a few bad customers ends up getting most/all of the ISP's IP addresses listed. If the ISP is not willing to clean up their mess, the most you can do is get a new ISP who has a better reputation.

    If your cell carrier is listed, one should probably question the reasonability of the RBL. Many IP lists will correctly have the IP addresses of dynamically assigned IP addresses, or addresses that should not be running servers (like cell phones).

    It has been a few years since I worked with RBLs. It would seem that "spamrats" is a newer list. I have no idea what kind of reputation that list has.

    Since your phone is not running an email server, your phone should be sending email through your ISP's email server or the email server of a third party (Gmail, Yahoo, Outlook.com, etc). Thus your IP address should be of no importance to any other email server checking RBLs since they should never be receiving emails directly from you, only from your email server.
    10-04-2019 01:59 AM
  15. methodman89's Avatar
    hi
    is it the sim card or the phone which determines your IP?

    I have only had my new phone a week and thought would check spamrat. expected it to be clear but got told I am grade C the worst offnder who carries out attacks and spam etc!!! Thought they had got it wrong as nothing of the sort been done and have only looked at sports scores in last week anyway and sent a few emails

    so checked from my partners phone which she has had for 3 years, hers was clear! she is on different cell company too

    I tried to email them but says my IP is dynamic so cant but I remember in the last 7 days its remained the same

    Im really confused how a week old phone can be on spam lists already, anyone help with this one?

    thanks
    You determine your Internet Provider by who you are contracted with, which leads me to my question, WHO is your provider that is using those addresses? Curious mind wants to know.
    10-04-2019 03:13 AM
  16. GeauxMETS's Avatar
    three
    10-04-2019 04:49 AM
  17. Rukbat's Avatar
    Then contact Three. Someone blocking a large carrier like that is probably going to get a nice letter from a solicitor (I'm using "nice" sarcastically). Your IP address is assigned every time you turn the phone on (or every time you turn mobile data on or airplane mode off, if you ever use those) and 3 has no control over who gets which address. (And Barracuda should be more diligent in checking their lists - cellphone carriers should never end up on the list, especially major ones. Maybe some little carrier in a banana republic with 5 customers, but not a multi-nation carrier like Three.)
    10-04-2019 04:22 PM

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