08-09-2021 03:44 PM
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  1. TgeekB's Avatar
    I think different people have different ideas of "load of money".

    The thing with today's slabs is that a $1000 flagship doesn't seem to provide that big of a difference in the overall experience, than a $400 midrange does.

    I'd want a device that changes the way I use my phone. One that feels interesting/different to use all the time, not just during a two-week "honeymoon" period after unboxing. No slab could provide that.

    What are your thoughts on the Titan Pocket?
    I agree about the fact a mid range can perform almost as well (to me) as a "flagship" phone. That's why I won't pay flagship prices.

    Never heard of the Titan. Not sure what the specs are but I saw a pic and it looks close to the Classic, which I loved. $299? I'd give it a try!
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    08-03-2021 08:39 PM
  2. mustang7757's Avatar
    I don't think I ever did on my BlackBerry devices. My Q10 had double tap to wake with security PIN, so I guess it take a lot for it to be accidentally bumped around. But my phones are always in my purse and never in my pocket, so I guess I never really had accidental touch problems on my phones.
    That's good they had this to prevent accidental touches , never used one so was curious.
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    08-03-2021 10:12 PM
  3. Morty2264's Avatar
    Well if that's all, you can fulfill that dream by buying some $90 BB Priv on eBay lol
    LOOOL nah, I'd buy a Torch and fool around with it!
    08-04-2021 06:17 AM
  4. Morty2264's Avatar
    That's good they had this to prevent accidental touches , never used one so was curious.
    For sure! I believe my Q10 had this thing on the screen where you touched the bottom and slid up to try and unlock it. I think that also helped against accidental touches! Sorry, I don't think it had double tap to wake - I think it had the other thing I mentioned. It's been a while! Haha.
    08-04-2021 06:18 AM
  5. the_boon's Avatar
    For sure! I believe my Q10 had this thing on the screen where you touched the bottom and slid up to try and unlock it.
    Yep, swipe up to turn on screen and swipe up to go home...wayyy before Apple and Google got in on those gestures lol
    08-04-2021 06:31 AM
  6. TgeekB's Avatar
    Yep, swipe up to turn on screen and swipe up to go home...wayyy before Apple and Google got in on those gestures lol
    But it got them nowhere.

    BlackBerry is dead and this is another corporation trying to use the name to make money. Show us something worth changing to. Prove you have a worthy UI. Otherwise it’s just another dead in the water device.

    Fingers crossed it’s more than that.
    08-04-2021 07:05 PM
  7. the_boon's Avatar
    But it got them nowhere.

    BlackBerry is dead and this is another corporation trying to use the name to make money. Show us something worth changing to. Prove you have a worthy UI. Otherwise it’s just another dead in the water device.

    Fingers crossed it’s more than that.
    It's a startup though and on their first device, I don't think we can expect them to produce something as "extraordinary" as what the mainstream manufacturers are doing.
    08-04-2021 07:15 PM
  8. TgeekB's Avatar
    It's a startup though and on their first device, I don't think we can expect them to produce something as "extraordinary" as what the mainstream manufacturers are doing.
    My point exactly. This has been tried multiple times and always failed. While I hope for success, I won't put much money down until I see something worthy of my money.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    08-04-2021 07:18 PM
  9. the_boon's Avatar
    My point exactly. This has been tried multiple times and always failed. While I hope for success, I won't put much money down until I see something worthy of my money.
    As consumers we should want there to be different options, so it's definitely a good thing when startups try to innovate, even if the finished product is not as polished as one from a major manufacturer.

    Takes an open mind and willingness to take a bit of a risk to go for a niche product as opposed to the usual mainstream. The reward is (hopefully) a more enjoyable product.
    08-04-2021 07:28 PM
  10. TgeekB's Avatar
    As consumers we should want there to be different options, so it's definitely a good thing when startups try to innovate, even if the finished product is not as polished as one from a major manufacturer.

    Takes an open mind and willingness to take a bit of a risk to go for a niche product as opposed to the usual mainstream. The reward is (hopefully) a more enjoyable product.
    Somewhat agree, except history has shown us otherwise. Innovate but show us the finished product is worthy of my money.
    08-04-2021 07:37 PM
  11. mustang7757's Avatar
    For sure! I believe my Q10 had this thing on the screen where you touched the bottom and slid up to try and unlock it. I think that also helped against accidental touches! Sorry, I don't think it had double tap to wake - I think it had the other thing I mentioned. It's been a while! Haha.
    It's good they thought those things through back then .
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    08-04-2021 07:40 PM
  12. the_boon's Avatar
    It's good they thought those things through back then .
    It's unfortunate that they didn't think through actually going Android right after dropping BBOS 7 in 2012, which would have saved them billions of dollars that they wasted on BB10 that almost bankrupted them.
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    08-05-2021 08:31 AM
  13. mustang7757's Avatar
    It's unfortunate that they didn't think through actually going Android right after dropping BBOS 7 in 2012, which would have saved them billions of dollars that they wasted on BB10 that almost bankrupted them.
    Back then everyone still trying new things out and which platform to use so not really their fault at that time .
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    08-05-2021 09:35 AM
  14. TgeekB's Avatar
    Back then everyone still trying new things out and which platform to use so not really their fault at that time .
    Except they weren’t trying new things out because they thought they were unbeatable. Better CEO’s would have been looking not only short term but also long term.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    08-05-2021 03:01 PM
  15. TgeekB's Avatar
    So I looked at that pocket titan. No thanks. Thick and not designed to take advantage of Androids best. If all you want is texting and basic internet it might be fine.

    We’ll see what the new one from Onward Mobility looks like. Something similar to the Key devices at a reasonable price would interest me.
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    08-05-2021 03:04 PM
  16. mustang7757's Avatar
    Except they weren’t trying new things out because they thought they were unbeatable. Better CEO’s would have been looking not only short term but also long term.
    Hard to say , you can't really predict future wise how your company will pan out , you can set goals and try different things and see what will stick and go from there . I think business wise there totally different mind set from back then to now, but I'm just taking a guess.
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    08-05-2021 03:04 PM
  17. TgeekB's Avatar
    Hard to say , you can't really predict future wise how your company will pan out , you can set goals and try different things and see what will stick and go from there . I think business wise there totally different mind set from back then to now, but I'm just taking a guess.
    Agree to some point. They were from the pager era. To them the BlackBerry devices were made for businesses and they didn’t think, like Steve Jobs, that business people would ever want to mix business with pleasure.
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    08-05-2021 03:07 PM
  18. mustang7757's Avatar
    Agree to some point. They were from the pager era. To them the BlackBerry devices were made for businesses and they didn’t think, like Steve Jobs, that business people would ever want to mix business with pleasure.
    In a way your right .
    08-05-2021 03:08 PM
  19. the_boon's Avatar
    So I looked at that pocket titan. No thanks. Thick and not designed to take advantage of Androids best. If all you want is texting and basic internet it might be fine.

    We’ll see what the new one from Onward Mobility looks like. Something similar to the Key devices at a reasonable price would interest me.
    It's not for everyone, that's for sure. Seems to make for a nice "detox" communicator though. I'll definitely try it as a primary phone as soon as I receive mine and evaluate.

    I definitely wish it were thinner and lighter, but it is what it is. The BB Classic is just too outdated software and spec wise to be serviceable today, especially with the 3G shutdown in the US.
    08-05-2021 03:17 PM
  20. the_boon's Avatar
    Agree to some point. They were from the pager era. To them the BlackBerry devices were made for businesses and they didn’t think, like Steve Jobs, that business people would ever want to mix business with pleasure.
    Yeah, hanging onto an ecosystem that lacked modern app support all the way up until 2015 really killed them off (hanging on to the keyboard didn't).
    Though of course to remain successful they would have needed to keep offering slabs alongside their other phones.

    I also hope the Astro Slide and Pro 1-X will be successful enough, but it would be nice if having a keyboard in 2021 didn't mean buying a kickstarter phone.
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    08-05-2021 03:21 PM
  21. TgeekB's Avatar
    Yeah, hanging onto an ecosystem that lacked modern app support all the way up until 2015 really killed them off (hanging on to the keyboard didn't).
    Though of course to remain successful they would have needed to keep offering slabs alongside their other phones.

    I also hope the Astro Slide and Pro 1-X will be successful enough, but it would be nice if having a keyboard in 2021 didn't mean buying a kickstarter phone.
    The Pro 1-X is really interesting. I like that XDA developed it. That means it will have features smartphone enthusiasts actually want.

    Currently $649 is the cheapest entry point. For a mid-range phone I’m not sure I’m ready to make a commitment.
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    08-05-2021 04:59 PM
  22. the_boon's Avatar
    The Pro 1-X is really interesting. I like that XDA developed it. That means it will have features smartphone enthusiasts actually want.

    Currently $649 is the cheapest entry point. For a mid-range phone I’m not sure I’m ready to make a commitment.
    The only thing about that wide landscape design I'd have concerns about is the typing experience (long thumb travel etc). It's really the kind of device I'd have to try in person to know if it's for me. A 6" landscape keyboard is a completely different animal from a portrait BB style one.

    But good luck running into someone in the wild that uses a Pro 1 lol
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    08-05-2021 09:09 PM
  23. Morty2264's Avatar
    It's good they thought those things through back then .
    Absolutely! It was fun, unlocking my Q10.
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    08-06-2021 06:20 AM
  24. spARTacus's Avatar
    I sometimes wonder why the Samsung snap on top keyboard attachment doesn't try to make another go at it in the current market situation. I guess Samsung has enough data to know if that would be worth it. I can understand from earlier if Samsung was hesitant to do anything that would encourage folks to want to use PKBs, but in the current market there doesn't seem much risk of a successful snap on top Samsung attachment causing folks to abandon Samsung slabs for some other brand. Maybe would only be a good idea if Samsung didn't have so many different phone models and in terms of the snap on attachment not being universal. The SES attachment idea being worked I think is also novel, although I think it still has a lot of awkwardness aspects that are yet far from clear.
    the_boon likes this.
    08-06-2021 07:32 AM
  25. spARTacus's Avatar
    From what I can tell right now, the current Uniherz PKB efforts seem to be destined to be the only real current efforts at an actual PKB for the next little while. Those seem to be basic phones, perhaps aimed at the core PKB and no-fuss users that have that need over all other priorities. Maybe it is the strategy to eventually start to move that concept to more powerful and richer Android experiences/specs if the basic ones are successful enough.
    08-06-2021 07:40 AM
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