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  1. mustang7757's Avatar
    At my age that's entirely possible!
    How old are you ?
    10-11-2021 09:52 PM
  2. TgeekB's Avatar
    How old are you ?
    60
    10-11-2021 09:53 PM
  3. mustang7757's Avatar
    60
    Your still young , for some reason i thought your age bracket was 30 to 45
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    10-11-2021 09:54 PM
  4. TgeekB's Avatar
    Your still young , for some reason i thought your age bracket was 30 to 45
    In my head I am.
    10-11-2021 09:57 PM
  5. the_boon's Avatar
    Not enough people to create a market. That has been proven over and over again.
    The idea would be to also sell to former PKB users, not just the few remaining ones
    10-12-2021 07:39 AM
  6. the_boon's Avatar
    If dual carry is a must for so many that use a PKB, I then think someone should come up with a thin-client PKB, just basically a remote desktop keyboard, track-pad and mini-screen as a slave device for the actual master phone.
    I'd rather that someone just design a half decent keyboard case for popular phones, but not sure how it could be balanced with the weight.
    10-12-2021 07:39 AM
  7. the_boon's Avatar
    Dual carry = agony
    Dual carry of two huge phones, yes lol.

    The Pixel 4a only weighs 143g, though the T-Pocket is 216g.
    The former would be replacing my actual wallet though, as I'd put a wallet case on it.
    10-12-2021 07:41 AM
  8. TgeekB's Avatar
    The idea would be to also sell to former PKB users, not just the few remaining ones
    I’m still not sure many former users would want one. It’s bulk and another thing to carry. I could be wrong but it seems if it was marketable it would be available.
    10-12-2021 09:28 AM
  9. TgeekB's Avatar
    Dual carry of two huge phones, yes lol.

    The Pixel 4a only weighs 143g, though the T-Pocket is 216g.
    The former would be replacing my actual wallet though, as I'd put a wallet case on it.
    That’s why I love the 4a, it’s light and powerful.
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    10-12-2021 09:29 AM
  10. the_boon's Avatar
    I’m still not sure many former users would want one. It’s bulk and another thing to carry. I could be wrong but it seems if it was marketable it would be available.
    As a PKB fanatic, I still don't think I'd want a separate Bluetooth keyboard appliance. I'd want something integrated with the phone, like the Typo gen 1 for iPhone 5S/SE, or the Samsung S8 keyboard cover.

    And it's a vicious cycle "if it was marketable it would be available" but at the same time, it can't be marketable if it's NOT available lol.

    There are dozens of keyboard accessories for tablets, why no love whatsoever for keyboard accessories on phones, which EVERYone has in their pocket.
    10-12-2021 10:20 AM
  11. TgeekB's Avatar
    As a PKB fanatic, I still don't think I'd want a separate Bluetooth keyboard appliance. I'd want something integrated with the phone, like the Typo gen 1 for iPhone 5S/SE, or the Samsung S8 keyboard cover.

    And it's a vicious cycle "if it was marketable it would be available" but at the same time, it can't be marketable if it's NOT available lol.

    There are dozens of keyboard accessories for tablets, why no love whatsoever for keyboard accessories on phones, which EVERYone has in their pocket.
    I know you and I have had this discussion before.

    Companies are in the business to maximize profits and minimize risk. It’s easy for us to say “why not” when it’s not our money. You don’t just make something to see if it’s marketable, you study the market in multiple ways to determine that. How many would you have to sell to make a profit? How much does it cost to design and manufacture? I don’t know the answer to these questions but do know that if it was marketable it would be available.
    10-12-2021 11:04 AM
  12. the_boon's Avatar
    I know you and I have had this discussion before.

    Companies are in the business to maximize profits and minimize risk. It’s easy for us to say “why not” when it’s not our money. You don’t just make something to see if it’s marketable, you study the market in multiple ways to determine that. How many would you have to sell to make a profit? How much does it cost to design and manufacture? I don’t know the answer to these questions but do know that if it was marketable it would be available.
    In some cases, wouldn't someone have to attempt it in order to gauge the market if it's essentially never been done before?
    10-12-2021 03:19 PM
  13. TgeekB's Avatar
    In some cases, wouldn't someone have to attempt it in order to gauge the market if it's essentially never been done before?
    No. You can question the market, see what they purchase, see that no one uses pkb phones any more. If it was your money, would you do it or stick to what you know sells and where trends are heading?
    10-12-2021 03:23 PM
  14. the_boon's Avatar
    No. You can question the market, see what they purchase, see that no one uses pkb phones any more. If it was your money, would you do it or stick to what you know sells and where trends are heading?
    New trends start somewhere. No one is saying it'll be the next most popular gadget, but it's fairly inexpensive to design and manufacture compared to an actual device. So there's much less risk in that.
    10-12-2021 08:26 PM
  15. TgeekB's Avatar
    New trends start somewhere. No one is saying it'll be the next most popular gadget, but it's fairly inexpensive to design and manufacture compared to an actual device. So there's much less risk in that.
    Boon, you’re speaking like a fan. There’s nothing wrong with that, it’s part of what we do here. I hope someone designs what you’re looking for.
    10-12-2021 08:39 PM
  16. lipoff's Avatar
    If anyone is curious or has any questions about it let me know

    I got mine today and I have a few questions:

    1) Can I activate "sticky keys" as on the Blackberry Key2? So when I press the [Shift] key or the [Alt] key I don't have to hold those modifiers down but can just press them once and then the next key press will be modified?

    2) How do I deactivate the auto-correct? It's maddening. I have a physical keyboard so as not to have to use auto-correct.

    3) The Blackberry Key2 had a really nice multi-buffer clipboard that was easily accessible. Is there something similar for the Titan Pocket or a recommend Android app for that?

    Overall, the keyboard feels nice, although the layout will take a little getting used to. The screen feels very small. The device feels really well built and rugged.
    10-23-2021 03:16 PM
  17. spARTacus's Avatar
    I got mine today and I have a few questions...
    There are several people talking about these sorts of things over on CB, sister site of AC (same MobileNations username/password will work over there).
    lipoff likes this.
    10-23-2021 04:54 PM
  18. the_boon's Avatar
    I got mine today and I have a few questions:

    1) Can I activate "sticky keys" as on the Blackberry Key2? So when I press the [Shift] key or the [Alt] key I don't have to hold those modifiers down but can just press them once and then the next key press will be modified?

    2) How do I deactivate the auto-correct? It's maddening. I have a physical keyboard so as not to have to use auto-correct.

    3) The Blackberry Key2 had a really nice multi-buffer clipboard that was easily accessible. Is there something similar for the Titan Pocket or a recommend Android app for that?

    Overall, the keyboard feels nice, although the layout will take a little getting used to. The screen feels very small. The device feels really well built and rugged.
    Well well, a fellow Pocket user on AC forums lol

    1) Not hold down, but if you double press the sym or alt key you can enter several caps / symbols at once

    2) I just use the BlackBerry keyboard, as the Kika one takes up too much valuable screen space due to that always-on number row. That plus the Android gesture navigation bar really eats up of what's left of that 3.1" display lol. Here's the link to it:
    https://mega.nz/file/1BlESSRb#...oiH...ClEdrzXTd0sP9k

    3) "multi-buffer clipboard" ? Not sure what that means but the BlackBerry keyboard app does have its clipboard too. You can also go in the intelligent assistance menu and sett he Fn key to be Ctrl for copying, pasting, selecting etc
    10-24-2021 12:30 AM
  19. spARTacus's Avatar
    Well well, a fellow Pocket user on AC forums lol...
    Yeah I find it odd why Android users aren't having some of their Android discussions here on AC, and frankly speaking from the old BlackBerry crowd there aren't many BlackBerry users around that aren't basically also Android users now. I guess the "PKB topic" is just more of a target over on CB.

    Edit: ...and just to be clear, I am not the fellow Pocket user @the_boon refers to.
    10-24-2021 10:06 AM
  20. lipoff's Avatar
    What a great suggestion. Thank you!

    I was unable to download from your link without a code, but I went looking for the APK.

    I was able to install version 2.7.0.11755, and I was able to get rid of the horrible auto-corrections, but it did NOT have the terrific Blackberry multi-buffer clipboard.

    I was NOT able to install version 4.1904.3.16701 (1380), the latest version.

    However, I was able to install version 3.4.1.16282 (496), which works perfectly for both input and for the clipboard (and navigation). And it even takes care of the sticky [Shift] and [Alt] keys.

    WOW.

    Thank you!

    Usability factory increase x100.

    The physical keyboard seems to have an odd "double entry" bug in certain apps, where two identical characters are input for each press of the key. So far in Kiwix and Google Pay (while trying to type in a credit card number!) and in Wise (formerly TransferWise) while entering an OTP. Calling up the on-screen keyboard suffices, however, although I have switched from Kiwix to Aard 2 for offline Wikipedia access as a result.

    After a few more days of using the Unihertz Titan Pocket I will say that I'm getting more used to the keyboard, it has awesome battery life, but the screen is very small and it's a bit heavy. It is not as good as a Blackberry Key2, but it is also a lot less expensive. I haven't noticed anything particularly special about Android 11 versus Android 8 on the Key2, but I do appreciate being able to do some things without third party apps (remaping the function buttons without Button Mapper, restricting certan apps from accessing mobile data without NetGuard, screen recording without AZ Screen Recorder, set lockscreen wallpaper without Lockscreen Wallpaper, reading QR codes, etc.) On the other hand, given that those third party apps are free and worked fine, I'm not sure I see the big deal. And it maybe even forestalls innovation in an Apple-like manner.
    10-24-2021 06:00 PM
  21. the_boon's Avatar
    What a great suggestion. Thank you!

    I was unable to download from your link without a code, but I went looking for the APK.

    I was able to install version 2.7.0.11755, and I was able to get rid of the horrible auto-corrections, but it did NOT have the terrific Blackberry multi-buffer clipboard.

    I was NOT able to install version 4.1904.3.16701 (1380), the latest version.

    However, I was able to install version 3.4.1.16282 (496), which works perfectly for both input and for the clipboard (and navigation). And it even takes care of the sticky [Shift] and [Alt] keys.

    WOW.

    Thank you!

    Usability factory increase x100.

    The physical keyboard seems to have an odd "double entry" bug in certain apps, where two identical characters are input for each press of the key. So far in Kiwix and Google Pay (while trying to type in a credit card number!) and in Wise (formerly TransferWise) while entering an OTP. Calling up the on-screen keyboard suffices, however, although I have switched from Kiwix to Aard 2 for offline Wikipedia access as a result.

    After a few more days of using the Unihertz Titan Pocket I will say that I'm getting more used to the keyboard, it has awesome battery life, but the screen is very small and it's a bit heavy. It is not as good as a Blackberry Key2, but it is also a lot less expensive. I haven't noticed anything particularly special about Android 11 versus Android 8 on the Key2, but I do appreciate being able to do some things without third party apps (remaping the function buttons without Button Mapper, restricting certan apps from accessing mobile data without NetGuard, screen recording without AZ Screen Recorder, set lockscreen wallpaper without Lockscreen Wallpaper, reading QR codes, etc.) On the other hand, given that those third party apps are free and worked fine, I'm not sure I see the big deal. And it maybe even forestalls innovation in an Apple-like manner.
    So the double input issues only happen in a handful of apps? Strange.

    And my apk link shouldn't require a code.

    While I do believe that the KEY2 is the superior device, being stuck on Android 8 was my main motivation for deciding to finally let go of it and try to commit to the Pocket. There are many differences between 8 and 11 imo, I mean they're three versions/years apart.

    For example, system-wide dark mode is really nice to have, even on a 3.1" LCD.
    10-24-2021 10:11 PM
  22. the_boon's Avatar
    Battery stats
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