04-10-2012 01:32 AM
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  1. darkrad3r's Avatar
    Always wondered this, if the IOS-Android war went far enough, do you think google will ever pull its services from iOS, so, for example; the iPhone couldn't use google maps, youtube, or google talk?
    10-21-2011 10:58 PM
  2. kharrigan's Avatar
    The threat is more powerful than the action. Practically speaking, I'm sure that there are concessions on both sides that keeps the peace.

    Cutting to the chase, Apple needs Google more, IMHO. It'll be interesting to see what happens without the tyrant visionary at the helm of Apple.
    10-22-2011 12:12 AM
  3. gdbjr's Avatar
    never going to happen. Google makes it money selling ads, not on the Android OS. There are millions of iOS devices all generating money for google. So they would be foolish to do anything like that.

    @ kharrigan As for as Apple needing Google more, you need to explain that as it makes no sense.
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    10-27-2011 11:14 AM
  4. kharrigan's Avatar
    @ kharrigan As for as Apple needing Google more, you need to explain that as it makes no sense.
    This is only an academic discussion as we both agree - neither company would do this as it is detrimental to both businesses... Google has no dependency on Apple for anything. Apple, on the other hand, relies on Google for compelling apps and content on their iOS devices. If Apple replaced all of Google's apps, their iOS devices would suffer. If Google blocked access to iOS devices - like Apple does to Flash - Apple would suffer.
    10-27-2011 11:27 AM
  5. psufan32's Avatar
    As was pointed out, Google relies in revenue from advertising. More and more revenue is being derived from the mobile space, and the iPhone is a MAJOR player in that space. They'd be foolish to pull significant revenue generators from iOS.

    With that said, we've seen a drastic shift over the last 6-8 months of Apple, Google, Microsoft and RIM all turning the majority of their attention inward. As time goes on, I certainly think that we'll find ourselves more deeply tied to the native and proprietary services on the phone than we are now.
    10-27-2011 12:24 PM
  6. Officerpolabear's Avatar
    As was pointed out, Google relies in revenue from advertising. More and more revenue is being derived from the mobile space, and the iPhone is a MAJOR player in that space. They'd be foolish to pull significant revenue generators from iOS.

    With that said, we've seen a drastic shift over the last 6-8 months of Apple, Google, Microsoft and RIM all turning the majority of their attention inward. As time goes on, I certainly think that we'll find ourselves more deeply tied to the native and proprietary services on the phone than we are now.
    Well, not all of it is coming from apps. It also comes from the browser. And from the last stats I saw of people who use the browser on their iPhones (which was quite a long time ago so it has most likely grown since then), about 60% of iphone users used the internet.
    10-28-2011 02:20 AM
  7. Raptor's Avatar
    Apple is apparently working on mapping solutions of there own and I expect they will announce a suite of mapping related products before long -- maybe to coincide with iP5. And, for search, I think Apple will eventually be a major player in this space as well but I can also see them taking a boat load of M$ money to use Bing in the short term.

    So, in short, Apple does NOT depend more on Google than Google does Apple, it's the other way around. Google may have tweaked Apple with the release of Android but Apple can fire back by eliminating the use of Google services on Apples products.


    Brian
    10-30-2011 11:23 AM
  8. brillrick's Avatar
    Apple is already making moves to usurp Google on the iPhone.
    Her name is Siri.

    If apple can get people to use Siri more often like they are they will eventually skip the need for google.
    Think of the kinds of mobile searches that are done right now.

    on google maps i type in pizza, and it shows me google places results for the pizzas near my location.
    but on iPhone 4s.
    "Siri, where is the nearest pizza" and what pops yup is not a google places result but a yelp result,

    take it further into future revisions of Siri, when more apps have api access: "Siri, remind me to buy a coat for my wife", this could skip a google search for coats and go straight to a site or app that sells coats.

    I'm probably giving some bad examples here, but imagine if you don't need to do a google search on your phone anymore, you could just go straight to your answer.
    11-01-2011 02:04 PM
  9. tropper's Avatar
    Lol they just wanna remove Google cuz they hate Google for ..(wait for it)...."stealing" their intellectual property. So should the big G sue for the voice search theft that automatically directs to Google shopping?
    Apples lawsuits are just a last ditch effort to stop the sales of android phones. By slandering android installing manufacturers they hope to win sales by being the good guys. The saddest part is they are failing miserably.
    As far as Apple pulling Google, great pull the trigger, it ll blow the apple apart In case yOS users have forgotten android is rising at breakneck speeds. Apple is losing more users to android, than android is to apple. I really dont believe the isheep would enjoy bing even if apple told them it was good for them.
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    11-01-2011 03:59 PM
  10. dj2big's Avatar
    What would be cool if Apple made Siri.com a search engine to compete with Google

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    11-02-2011 02:02 AM
  11. water678's Avatar
    naw, siri is pretty darn good
    11-18-2011 01:32 PM
  12. logicallucy's Avatar
    Yeah, siri is pretty good.. it's definitely what apple put up against google.
    Although google is pretty darn good, I think siri isn't bad. and for any apple users, they love what it does and how it works..
    but for google to pull services from apple and not allow apple users to use their apps is a dumb idea. I dont think they'll do that.
    11-18-2011 01:41 PM
  13. Puzzlegal's Avatar
    Apple is already making moves to usurp Google on the iPhone.
    Her name is Siri.

    If apple can get people to use Siri more often like they are they will eventually skip the need for google.
    Think of the kinds of mobile searches that are done right now.

    on google maps i type in pizza, and it shows me google places results for the pizzas near my location.
    but on iPhone 4s.
    "Siri, where is the nearest pizza" and what pops yup is not a google places result but a yelp result,

    take it further into future revisions of Siri, when more apps have api access: "Siri, remind me to buy a coat for my wife", this could skip a google search for coats and go straight to a site or app that sells coats.

    I'm probably giving some bad examples here, but imagine if you don't need to do a google search on your phone anymore, you could just go straight to your answer.
    This is what I think is happening.
    11-25-2011 10:42 PM
  14. Sean-Troy's Avatar
    11-27-2011 12:38 PM
  15. Sean-Troy's Avatar
    I'm going to start a thread
    11-27-2011 12:40 PM
  16. dj2big's Avatar
    What google should do is give Google a personality an simply call it Google it will be interesting for it to have a duel personality both female and male that adjust to users impute and daily life and become an AI friend
    joshua.worth likes this.
    12-29-2011 02:12 AM
  17. Brucewl's Avatar
    Apple is designing some service to take place of Google service.
    markusf21 likes this.
    12-30-2011 06:30 AM
  18. darktanone's Avatar
    I agree.
    01-12-2012 05:32 AM
  19. mikeisnowonfire's Avatar
    There is a delicate detente that allows them to kind of leave each other alone, mostly because Apple is reliant on Google for many services. However, slowly but surely, Apple has worked on replacing their needs for these services and has started developing their own. A time will come that Apple has weened itself of Google, and when that time comes, you will see a serious clash of the titans. I wish Apple would stop with all of this ridiculousness and just try to win the favor of consumers instead of always trying to win in the courtroom. It is reasons like this that Apple is looked upon so unfavorably among people who don't care for them.
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    01-23-2012 05:40 PM
  20. andrewwithnumbers's Avatar
    Apple will probably no longer be around in 10-20 years because its whole business model is based on charging a price they have no business charging for products that all too quickly become commodities. It won't be "magical" forever. Google isn't based on commoditized products; I need not have any loyalty to Motorola to continue enjoying Google's platform. Google is a better idea for consumers and investors for much the same reason.

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    01-23-2012 09:57 PM
  21. Johnly's Avatar
    If only google had stayed boss in voice recognition *sigh* mapquest is the go to nav app on apple for turn by turn. Here is the kicker, she sounds healthy! RIM CEOs stepped down. Hilariously years late. With Jobs gone, Google has a chance to bury Apple, but holding off the nexus in respect to Jobs? Yeah right......Google hooks, Google hooks!
    01-23-2012 10:34 PM
  22. johncihak's Avatar
    Apple will probably no longer be around in 10-20 years because its whole business model is based on charging a price they have no business charging for products that all too quickly become commodities. It won't be "magical" forever. Google isn't based on commoditized products; I need not have any loyalty to Motorola to continue enjoying Google's platform. Google is a better idea for consumers and investors for much the same reason.

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    Seriously? Google makes its money on search. Search engines come and go. Remember Altavista? It would not be too hard to take Google down since its profits are all in one basket - search.

    Apple's products have peaked and faded as well. Desktops and even laptops are past their peak (but Apple still makes bank). iPods are fading. But every few years Apple comes up with fresh ways to make money. Not just relying one one product like search.
    01-25-2012 08:02 AM
  23. cdicesare2002's Avatar
    Google uses a lot more then just search. There are things such as the gmail, documents (which appeals to many small businesses), calendar which is very useful, the e-readers operating systems, the many other web based functions they have there own operating system, and now a very solid Android system.

    So even if Google search dies the rest of these functions could be moved into a primary income force by changing just a few things. Lose the add space for Google search just fill in the empty right side of gmail or realise more Google primary nexus devices and charge for your free computer operating system and pull Google off the Nook and release a Google branded E-reader, release a premium package with Google documents ect for business users who are sick of Microsoft Outlook and stuff and boom, Google maintains a strong financial base

    If Apple loses the iPhone / iPad novelty they have to design build and distribute a new device before they can regain any lost ground before making a profit. Knowing Apple they would just release the iPhone with a 4.0" screen instead of the 3.5 in screen and tell everyone its the new innovation in mobile technology, and all the Apple fans will buy it like they have bought the same phone over and over with every iPhone release.

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    joshua.worth likes this.
    01-25-2012 10:19 AM
  24. mikeisnowonfire's Avatar
    I hate to say it, but I think a time will come when Google will have to consider making Android a closed OS in order to create an ecosystem so they can make money outside of ads the way Apple and Amazon do.
    tsak6789 likes this.
    01-31-2012 01:52 PM
  25. Mellimel22's Avatar
    I think all the isheep sayin that Google need apple is dumb as hell real talk

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    03-01-2012 11:58 PM
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