[ab304945]

this is a waste of a topic.

removable battery and sd card is all user preference .

[_X_]

You're entitled to use the phone how you see fit, and to choose what phone fits your needs. If you don't care to swap batteries or have expandable storage that's up to you.

For me, I will never own a phone without a removable battery or expandable storage. And here are a few of my reasons.

- Replaceable when battery stops holding a charge. I don't sell my phones, I give them to family and replacement batteries are typically needed a year after I give the phones away.

- Removable batteries let you do a battery pull if you get your phone wet. Happens all the time to many people. Removing the battery can help save your phone.

- Upgradeable battery. Some of us don't mind the extra thickness of an extended battery for two days of battery life.

- Carry a spare. I've done this on my last few palm phones, and those took years to boot and I still did it. The S4 boots in seconds. No excuse to not wanna swap batteries. Worried about the back becoming loose? Its 1. replaceable and 2. kept in place with a case for many users anyway. And a spare battery can be charged in a standalone charger. People talk about getting a rechargeable microusb battery pack but don't want to carry a spare? Makes no sense to me. I'll forget my phone if I leave it charging somewhere and hell if I'm gonna be the person with a battery attached to it. No thanks.

- MicroSD key chain card reader - works awesome to transfer files on the fly. I'm not going to carry a cable around with me. But it's easy to pop the card out of the phone and into the usb card reader and share music, videos or whatever.

- App storage. Sorry but many of us especially on A/C need more space than 16 or 32GB internal storage. Why limit yourself? I keep most of my larger apps on the card. Speed isn't a problem. Just get a good card. Class 10 isn't enough. It has to he UHS-1

- Backup to card.

- Use your phone while transferring files. It can take a while to write 32 or 64 GB of data especially with a usb cable. Having a removable card let's you use your phone without it being attached to your computer.


Bottom line is that having a removable battery and expandable storage helps the phone be truly wireless. You don't have to plug it in if you don't want to. I hate using the phone with the usb cable attached. But that's just me.





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This post is spot on. I've heard the old argument just carry a charger or battery pack. But there us nothing easier and faster than replacing a battery, it's also much less of a product to carry since batteries are small.

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[benhmadison]

The topic can be argued either way. I think it is extreme for someone to call sd cards and removable batteries a joke. I also think it is a narrow view to rule out a device because it doesn't have these features.

[A895]

The topic can be argued either way. I think it is extreme for someone to call sd cards and removable batteries a joke. I also think it is a narrow view to rule out a device because it doesn't have these features.

Don't want a device that does not take a micro SD card so that is a narrow view? If android continues to go this way then I will go to another platform. I'm not going through the trouble to move to the cloud because manufacturers think internal storage is enough.

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[benhmadison]

Don't want a device that does not take a micro SD card so that is a narrow view? If android continues to go this way then I will go to another platform. I'm not going through the trouble to move to the cloud because manufacturers think internal storage is enough.

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Although I have signed up for a couple of cloud services I literally never use them. With 32 gigs of internal storage I have more than enough to never use the cloud. That being said, everyone's needs are different, I just mean that an individual will greatly reduce their options of a new device if they require a sd slot or removable battery. I will be the first to tell you that manufacturers should definitely be putting larger storage in their devices, 32gb should be the absolute minimum. At the same time I think it's equally as crappy for Samsung to put out a flagship device with only 9 gigs of internal space. Sure you can put a 64gb card in it, but the card can't hold content such as games,pinned music from Google Play or downloaded content. Everyone has their preferences and for me I would much rather have a 32gb internal storage with 25 usable and no removable memory vs 16gb internal with only 9 usable and a sd slot.

[A895]

Although I have signed up for a couple of cloud services I literally never use them. With 32 gigs of internal storage I have more than enough to never use the cloud. That being said, everyone's needs are different, I just mean that an individual will greatly reduce their options of a new device if they require a sd slot or removable battery. I will be the first to tell you that manufacturers should definitely be putting larger storage in their devices, 32gb should be the absolute minimum. At the same time I think it's equally as crappy for Samsung to put out a flagship device with only 9 gigs of internal space. Sure you can put a 64gb card in it, but the card can't hold content such as games,pinned music from Google Play or downloaded content. Everyone has their preferences and for me I would much rather have a 32gb internal storage with 25 usable and no removable memory vs 16gb internal with only 9 usable and a sd slot.

I would take the 9 gigs with SD slot as I have only like 27 apps taking less than 600 MB of memory. I am not an app hoarder and keep content on my microsd card slot.

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[benhmadison]

I would take the 9 gigs with SD slot as I have only like 27 apps taking less than 600 MB of memory. I am not an app hoarder and keep content on my microsd card slot.

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I guess we have proven that each user has different needs

[A895]

I guess we have proven that each user has different needs

Exactomundo

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[Haalcyon]

I just have no interest on being forced to use or being dependent on "the cloud". I don't want all my data in "the cloud" (sounds like a cheap SyFy movie), yet I know and respect that there are those that embrace it. I'm glad that, for now, and with the help of Samsung, I have a choice to shun "the cloud" without missing anything I care about and while having all the storage I need.

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[tigeryee]

I like being able to change out batteries and the expandable memory. I don't think I will go back to a phone that relies so heavily on cloud storage if given a choice nowadays

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[nickgalaxys4]

I like the removable back to get in the battery and SDcard. I have two battery and both are fully charged just in case one dies on the road I just pop the other one in better then bring wires everywhere you go.

[A895]

I like removable storage because I have two microsd cards and both a have all my content and I switch between them periodically. I was heavily considering getting the DROID MAXX but that non removable storage , made me pause and now I am considering the RAZR Maxx HD instead. Battery life and removable storage would be awesome. The screen would be a step up from my phone and the resolution is the same. The screen size is bigger on the newer one but 4.7 is fine.

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[mysticmeg]

What's the point in such a powerful phone is your storage memory is all filled up? Yeah you mention the use of cloud storage but many people aren't lucky as me as I have truly unlimited internet here in the UK and I don't know any US consumers with a unlimitee data plans...

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[asanatheist]

SD card is a tricky situation. I have to agree with you on your point about wav file you need. It just bugs me that some oems can get away selling 16gb models at 32gb models just because it has an SD card. Save them cost of putting more expensive internal memories yet charge a premium. But i have to admit it is brilliant marketing.

Sent from my HTC One

The SD card controller, and cage likely costs more than adding the 16GB Flash.
SD Cards save people money.
For example a 64GB HTC One price difference between the 32GB is $100-$200 depending on your country/carrier.
For $50 I get 64GB UHS 1 SD card that can serve as phone memory or just extra storage for my computers, with that 64GB card I turn my phone storage to a whopping 80GB. Plus app2sd helps use it as if it was internal storage.

Not the mention the SD card has other uses.

[Joe Barry]

For tv series and HD movies I'd like to watch on my phone on long trips, there is the most under-appreciated feature on android phones(except nexus) people forget, USB OTG. Put all your HD movies in flash drives and plug it in when you want to start watching. It is whole lot easier than swapping a external sd card.

I disagree with most of your post, but I wanted to know what you mean by the above statement except for Nexus....what does that mean??

I wanted a S3 when it came out but passed & passed on it only because VZW only carried the 16GB model, too small for internal memory these days. Fast forward the S4 comes out and did the same thing, I passed on it too; then they suddenly offered pre-orders for an S4 with 32GB Bingo! I jumped on it. The problem is they offer memory on the low end side and want us to use the cloud which means more data usage $$$ for them; no thanks, don't use it. I shouldn't have to connect to a cloud for my stuff and what about when you are in airplane mode? So the things that attracted me to the S4 32GB was all of it's features AND the fact has a removable Battery, to which I bought the battery and combo charger from Samsung for half price as a reward for registering the phone with them, can't beat that price anywhere for the Genuine article AND I can very easily charge an extra battery outside of the phone itself.

The S4 allows you to move apps to the SD card and I have a extreme card and have no speed issues with it. For me this right now is the perfect phone because of the 32GB, Removable battery, SD card and chock full of the features I liked. I otherwise would not have purchased it if it didn't come with a removable battery or SD card. The only thing I was hoping for was 64GB internal and I know VZW is opposed to it, heck I would have purchased an S4 128GB if they made one, I don't mind the price so much, after all it's a one time charge unlike a monthly service bill, so you get over it real quick. The thing I like is Samsung has given us a choice and that is very important unlike Apple that doesn't. No I'm not knocking Apple plenty of my friends have them, and they all know, ALL Apple would need to do for their tablet for example that comes with a whooping 128GB internal would be to add a SD card and removable battery and I'd buy one in a New York minute as they say; that is how important I feel about it. I'm not going to have a $900 device?? and in a year or two the battery doesn't hold-up I have to mail it back to them and get a REFURB in exchange for it? NOT going to happen in this universe for me or should I say to me.

I love all I have been able to do with Android and I only hope Samsung and the Android Market place in general continues down this path, I like an open eco system.

I'm a hardware guy by nature and while I helped other out with their Apple & Andriod phones/tablets at work I never put down my own money for one because I didn't care mostly for the hardware it terms of removable options and thus the S4 became my first smartphone, that is how strongly I feel on the subject.

As they say I VOTED with my Wallet.

[garublador]

I disagree with most of your post, but I wanted to know what you mean by the above statement except for Nexus....what does that mean??

I think he means that the Nexus 4 doesn't support OTG without using any hacks.

I think the "removable" part of removable storage just isn't very important in a smart phone. The important part is how much cheaper it is than internal storage. Once cost isn't as big of an issue for internal storage I think uSD slots will go away. As Diorarat pointed out, there's always USB OTG if you really need lots of storage. It's not really any harder to carry a USB flash drive than it is another uSD card.

[A895]

I think he means that the Nexus 4 doesn't support OTG without using any hacks.

I think the "removable" part of removable storage just isn't very important in a smart phone. The important part is how much cheaper it is than internal storage. Once cost isn't as big of an issue for internal storage I think uSD slots will go away. As Diorarat pointed out, there's always USB OTG if you really need lots of storage. It's not really any harder to carry a USB flash drive than it is another uSD card.

Yes it is, why I need to carry something extra when the microsd card is right there in my phone. What if I lose the flash drive? Its harder to lose something if its already in something else, such as a microsd card in a phone. Its important if you put media locally and not in the cloud or somewhere else. I do everything mostly offline with no data connection, and the cloud does not help then.

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[eshropshire]

I guess this is why Samsung sell so few phones - they provide SD support and removable batteries.

Also, why do so many phones for the Asian market have SD card support. From what I can tell most of the newer HTC phones sold in Asia come with SD card support.

[garublador]

Yes it is, why I need to carry something extra when the microsd card is right there in my phone. What if I lose the flash drive? Its harder to lose something if its already in something else, such as a microsd card in a phone. Its important if you put media locally and not in the cloud or somewhere else. I do everything mostly offline with no data connection, and the cloud does not help then.

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You missed my point. You're comparing a phone with no extra storage with one that has an external uSD card. What if instead of the external uSD card slot it had another, 64GB eMMC? You'd have just as much storage as you do now with a 64GB uSD card, it just wouldn't be removable. That's what I"m saying will happen once internal storage gets cheap enough. Unless they make phones with extra uSD card holders (you'd think they would already do that if people used multiple uSD cards with their phones as often as people on here claim) then you have to carry something around if you want more than what's available on the 2 SDIO ports (one internal and one uSD or two internal). I'm just saying it's not that much more difficult to carry around a USB flash drive and cable than it is an extra uSD card. They're way harder to lose, too.

[A895]

You missed my point. You're comparing a phone with no extra storage with one that has an external uSD card. What if instead of the external uSD card slot it had another, 64GB eMMC? You'd have just as much storage as you do now with a 64GB uSD card, it just wouldn't be removable. That's what I"m saying will happen once internal storage gets cheap enough. Unless they make phones with extra uSD card holders (you'd think they would already do that if people used multiple uSD cards with their phones as often as people on here claim) then you have to carry something around if you want more than what's available on the 2 SDIO ports (one internal and one uSD or two internal). I'm just saying it's not that much more difficult to carry around a USB flash drive and cable than it is an extra uSD card. They're way harder to lose, too.

That's too much, a cable and a flash drive just to accommodate to a phone that does not have external storage is too much. Why I do have to compromise just to have a high end phone? Samsung sells so many phones because, look at the S4, has everything but the kitchen sink, including an microsd card slot and a removable battery. I love Motorola, but since they are making their phone with no microsd card slots anymore then I will take my money elsewhere or even to their older phones like the MAXX HD.

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[garublador]

That's too much, a cable and a flash drive just to accommodate to a phone that does not have external storage is too much. Why I do have to compromise just to have a high end phone? Samsung sells so many phones because, look at the S4, has everything but the kitchen sink, including an microsd card slot and a removable battery. I love Motorola, but since they are making their phone with no microsd card slots anymore then I will take my money elsewhere or even to their older phones like the MAXX HD.

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Again, this is in the future when internal memory is much cheaper. I agree that the phones you're talking about do not have enough memory and that uSD slots are a good idea at this time. However, unless you routinely swap out uSD cards (I've never heard of anyone do that for anything but special circumstances) what I'm suggesting won't change how you use your phone at all. You'll still have just as much storage as what you get now with internal memory and a uSD card. It will only make it work better.

Also, I was wrong about the cable. You'll just need a little device that's slightly larger than a uSD card:

http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc...check-out.html

Sure it's sticking out when you use it, but in the scenerio where you need more than what will fit on two eMMC chips you're probably doing something where that doesn't matter (i.e. watching a movie), anyway.

[A895]

Again, this is in the future when internal memory is much cheaper. I agree that the phones you're talking about do not have enough memory and that uSD slots are a good idea at this time. However, unless you routinely swap out uSD cards (I've never heard of anyone do that for anything but special circumstances) what I'm suggesting won't change how you use your phone at all. You'll still have just as much storage as what you get now with internal memory and a uSD card. It will only make it work better.

Also, I was wrong about the cable. You'll just need a little device that's slightly larger than a uSD card:

http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc...check-out.html

Sure it's sticking out when you use it, but in the scenerio where you need more than what will fit on two eMMC chips you're probably doing something where that doesn't matter (i.e. watching a movie), anyway.

Yes it will, I will have to start carrying something extra, plug it in and pay for it to begin with. I would rather keep using the same 16GB microsd card I have been using for the past year and half. Still almost 14GB of storage left and I have music, pics, and videos on their that I have to keep.

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[jay r3]

I agree, In my HTC sensation 4 1.5 years into the contract the battery only last till 2:00. since i work trade shows and not always have access to a plug have the ability to swap out the dead bat for a recharged one is a lifesaver, for me the s4 is my next phone. why consumers that shell out $600 plus would accept this is beyond me.

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

Here's my honest opinion.

SD cards are not a joke. It's always nice to have more storage available when your device's internal memory becomes clogged up. However, it's a joke when you can't move apps to the card, which is stupid, IMO. What's the point of an SD card when you can't move apps to it? Many devices are now allowing this, though, which is something to be thankful for.

Removable battery is NOT A COMPLETE JOKE! Think about it. Having an extra battery that's fully charged is darn useful. Once one battery dies, you can swap it out for the other one and continue using the phone without wasting hours charging it. If you have a battery charger, even better, charge the dead battery while you're using the spare, then vice versa.

[Joe Barry]

I agree, In my HTC sensation 4 1.5 years into the contract the battery only last till 2:00. since i work trade shows and not always have access to a plug have the ability to swap out the dead bat for a recharged one is a lifesaver, for me the s4 is my next phone. why consumers that shell out $600 plus would accept this is beyond me.

I completely agree with you, the deciding factor for me buying the phone was the user removable battery and SD slot; otherwise I would not have purchased it at all. I'm serious too as I have voted with my wallet over the years and have stayed away from phones that didn't have both of those features; many people I work with do the same thing and I think Samsung knows & understands this and has capitalized on it and I am very happy they have. For those they don't want/need those features no big deal you can simply throw away your phone when the battery's runtime descreases too much over time and not buy an SD card and you'd be all set, or you could skip the phone and get one that doesn't have those features, just the same as I have skipped every model to date that doesn't contain those features. Life is good......we have choices, one size does NOT fit all.