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  1. Raptor007's Avatar
    Hey it's great YOU don't want removable battery or microSD, but I sure as hell DO. I do swap batteries during the day. I like putting all of my media, pictures and attachments on my microSD card. Why would I want to use the cloud which sucks up my monthly bandwidth, my goal is NOT to make a carrier richer but to make my life easier. The same companies ditching microSD and removable batteries are the same ones NOT including sufficient internal storage and are still pushing 16/32GB options when they should be offering 64/128B options since memory is CHEAP. As for batteries, they are stuffing the biggest things they can into the phone but the problem still arrives that charging takes longer and shortens the batteries life and then you have to send it out for repair/replacement.

    No thanks as long as Samsung offers removable batteries and microSD I will be buying their products.
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    09-08-2013 03:15 PM
  2. TgeekB's Avatar
    OK, I admit I skipped some of the responses but lighten up people. It is just an opinion. I just got a Nexus 4 so I am testing out the OP's opinion. I have bought many spare batteries but have to admit I never use them. I also don't store tons of music or photos on my phone so I really don't need a lot of storage. I've only had it for a few days but, so far, don't miss the battery or card. Again, just my opinion.
    09-08-2013 08:25 PM
  3. vasekvi's Avatar
    Well if you're going to title your thread SD card and removable battery are a joke the you'll have to expect a heated debate.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 4
    msndrstood, A895, qxr and 1 others like this.
    09-11-2013 04:21 PM
  4. Sprawl's Avatar
    I know, while having a removable battery to me isnt' that important (though I expect the battery to last a full day anyways),

    Removable SD card is a must! I dont store any of my media local to the phone. I want to be able to pull it out anytime, make backups to it. Save data.

    A place that if my phone dies, I have full ability to restore it without loosing any content. I also have about 25gb of Music i put on the phone.

    The Cloud isn't a suitable solution for this, especially in the Canadian market where Data is capped at low rates and have expensive overage charges.
    09-12-2013 11:47 AM
  5. garublador's Avatar
    The Cloud isn't a suitable solution for this, especially in the Canadian market where Data is capped at low rates and have expensive overage charges.
    Except that you don't need data to do that. You can do it all over WiFi. You can automatically save stuff to a local drive that way as well. Plus, if you set it up to work automatically then you won't run into the situation where you could forget to manually back up your data.

    The big advantage of micro SD slots is you get more memory cheaper. The fact that it's removable isn't very important and easily worked around.
    09-12-2013 12:13 PM
  6. Sprawl's Avatar
    Except that you don't need data to do that. You can do it all over WiFi. You can automatically save stuff to a local drive that way as well. Plus, if you set it up to work automatically then you won't run into the situation where you could forget to manually back up your data.

    The big advantage of micro SD slots is you get more memory cheaper. The fact that it's removable isn't very important and easily worked around.
    Problem with this is still that many Canadians have caps on their home networks too.
    your standard rogers/bell accounts come with 60gb caps.
    09-12-2013 01:09 PM
  7. garublador's Avatar
    Problem with this is still that many Canadians have caps on their home networks too.
    your standard rogers/bell accounts come with 60gb caps.
    That's only to external sites. They can't limit how much you transfer from your phone to your computer at home.

    If that doesn't work you can always just connect your phone to your PC with a USB cable. How is that so much harder than having to fiddle with the SD card?
    09-12-2013 01:17 PM
  8. Sprawl's Avatar
    That's only to external sites. They can't limit how much you transfer from your phone to your computer at home.

    If that doesn't work you can always just connect your phone to your PC with a USB cable. How is that so much harder than having to fiddle with the SD card?
    Perfectly acceptible too.

    But if i've got 20 some odd gigs of media I want to take around with me, lets say, in music form. the options are
    A> shrink my library and playlist based on the size of the internal storage available to me after OS and installed applications
    B> move to a cloud system. As mentioned, Expensive in a lot of areas. In Canada, the Typical data plan for 2gb of data will run 70-$100/mth with overages around $2/mb. WiFi is also not available to everywhere everywhere. For example, during the course of my day while I am at work, there is zero Wifi. I'm purely on HSPA cell data (no LTE/4G in my town)

    With a removable memory card i can just put everything on the memory card and voila. The alternative you say is "buy a phone with bigger storage". The cost to move from the 16 to 32gb of storage in a phone, For..... wow. i've spent the last 30 minutes looking, and I can't find a single carrier in Ontario that has 32gb, or 64gb devices. The Carriers here wont carry them. IMAGINE THAT!

    Meanwhile a 64gb Class10 MicroSD card can be bought as low as $70:
    if you compare that to what Apple charges for the difference between 16gb phone and their 64gb phone. 16gb iphone5, 699. 64GB =899. $200 for the additional 48gb of storage, vs 70 for additional 64
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    09-12-2013 04:24 PM
  9. garublador's Avatar
    With a removable memory card i can just put everything on the memory card and voila. The alternative you say is "buy a phone with bigger storage". The cost to move from the 16 to 32gb of storage in a phone, For..... wow. i've spent the last 30 minutes looking, and I can't find a single carrier in Ontario that has 32gb, or 64gb devices. The Carriers here wont carry them. IMAGINE THAT!
    I'm just pointing out that "cheap storage" is really what you're saying is a "must" and that whether or not it's removable doesn't matter. I agree that if you want to carry media with you then you need 64GB at least, but there's nothing about it that needs to be removable. It just needs to be cheap and that will come with time.

    FWIW, I'm also on a 2GB plan (actually 4GB total that my wife and I share) and I use Dropbox for my pictures and we've never come close to using the amount of data you have available per month. We typically use about 1/4 of our data plan and have come nowhere near using 60GB of internet data per month. 60GB will give you 26 hours of "best" quality video from Netflix (the default in the US). It will give you 200 hours of "good" quality video (the default in Canada). With the extra 1.5GB of data I have I could access 250 6MB media files (either songs or pictures) per month.

    The caps sound awful, but you have to be a pretty heavy user to go over them. Granted I have no idea how you use your internet connections, but what we do seems on the "typical" side. It's easier with a phone because streaming music and video will get you to that cap quick, but 60GB is a lot for a residential data connection.
    09-12-2013 04:49 PM
  10. Central n ohios best's Avatar
    I know i will get a lot of negative reactions to this topic, but the thing is, I see removable batteries and sd cards as a big scam. In particular by Samsung. They are the only ones releasing flagships with removable batteries and external memory cards in this year's line-up. Nokia, HTC, Nexus Series, Blackberry, Sony, Apple and other big names don't bother with removable batteries with their flagship phones anymore.

    Heres the thing with batteries:
    Flagships today dont last a day on heavy usage, its natural to have the ability to switch batteries right? I don't think so. I had that mentality last year that's why I got the GS3. I never changed the battery on it on a year's use. There is just no chance for me to change batteries. When I go to work, I bring along my charger, when I am using it at home, I can always plug it in when it is about to run dry. When I go out and I know I won't expect to find a plug, I bring a powerbank. Powerbanks offers more convenience than bringing a spare battery. #1. It is easy to charge up the device by just plugging it. Changing batteries is a bit of a problem, most of us have protective casing to remove first, plus removing the back side of the Galaxy S series isn't pretty. The back is made of plastic, everytime I open it, I feel like the tiny bits of plastics on the sides of the back that hold it to the device are going to break. I want to avoid taking the plastic back off and on to prevent it from breaking. And most of all, I hate turning the device on and off just to change batteries. There are times when I am in the middle of a video conference and turning the phone on and off just to swap batteries is being a bit more of a nuisance. #2. Unless you bought a separate charging unit for your extra battery you'd wind up doing the whole process of changing batteries on your phone just to charge your extra battery. So how does removable batteries become an integral part in people's choice for their next smartphone? The only benefit of having a removable battery is you can change it personally when it starts to age. The most annoying part of the whole removable battery fiasco is that Samsung charges a hefty price for the Galaxy S line of battery because they said it has NFC in it. Why did you put NFC on the battery Samsung???? I dont get this part at all.

    Removable SD Cards is a more tricky situation, people want SD Cards because it is an assurance of seemingly unlimited storage. But for me, I began to see it as something which can be omitted. Removable SD cards have been problematic for me with my GS3, normally you can only put media files on it and apps would go on the phones memory. Like all average consumers I thought its an awesome deal to get a 16gb model and upgrade it with a 32gb sd card. I discovered that SD cards write too slow making transferring large media files a bit too long, it is sometimes unreliable calling out a need to reformat it. These are just small details I can live with. My biggest problem is battery drain. Try to google media server battery drain problems. It is still unresolved (correct me if I am wrong) and it points to the external memory card as a culprit as the device constantly scan the SD Card. It takes 20-40% of some people's battery drain per day. Some suggest that removing media on the card solves the problem. But the thing is, if you can't put media then what's the point of having a sd card? You can't normally put apps in the card.

    Unibody designs without removable sd cards and battery doesn't seem so bad considering these points. Without removable batteries, phones can be constructed with more focus on designs that can be seen in the Iphone series, xperia series, One series and Lumia Series which make the Galaxy series look like a toy. As for extended memories, 32 GB is the sweet spot. You get all the apps and media in a single storage. For tv series and HD movies I'd like to watch on my phone on long trips, there is the most under-appreciated feature on android phones(except nexus) people forget, USB OTG. Put all your HD movies in flash drives and plug it in when you want to start watching. It is whole lot easier than swapping a external sd card.
    Seeing as I have both a removable battery and sd card I can say its no scam. Its been countless times switching batteries saved me when I was on the road or forgot my charger.

    Sent from my T-Mobile LG Escape using Tapatalk 2
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    09-12-2013 05:08 PM
  11. dad2paisley's Avatar
    With all the cell phones I have had over the many years. I NEVER needed another battery or SD card. I am a heavy user. Now a day your never to far from an outlet or if your at home your wall outlet.
    09-12-2013 06:06 PM
  12. msndrstood's Avatar
    Lol, I have 2 6500 mAh extended batteries for my Note 2. And two stock batteries. And 2 external chargers.

    Every been through an extended power outage? There's that.

    These arguments are ridiculous. I think people are bored, don't like removable batteries or SD cards? Don't get a phone that has them.

    See how easy that was?

    Sent via Note II
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    09-12-2013 06:50 PM
  13. tippmann15's Avatar
    With all the cell phones I have had over the many years. I NEVER needed another battery or SD card. I am a heavy user. Now a day your never to far from an outlet or if your at home your wall outlet.
    Crazy, I usually have to replace my s4 battery once a day and use my iToy mophie daily:-(.

    GS4/iPhone5
    09-12-2013 06:56 PM
  14. dad2paisley's Avatar
    Crazy, I usually have to replace my s4 battery once a day and use my iToy mophie daily:-(.

    GS4/iPhone5
    Then you must do nothing all day but play on your phone for it to need charging. LOL
    09-12-2013 07:09 PM
  15. qxr's Avatar
    I purchased my phone because it had the options of the sd card and removable battery. Of course I have never met a hard drive I could not fill. I like my options and utilize them.
    Lucky you if you have never been without power for hours at a time as I have been in Southern California or Florida.
    The batteries and sd cards are not a waste just different choices.

    Sent from my SCH-I545 using AC Forums mobile app
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    09-12-2013 07:10 PM
  16. Haalcyon's Avatar
    Different strokes for different cults. I like having the option of changing my battery or expanding my storage. Options are good things to me.

    Sent from the Xperia Tablet Z
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    09-12-2013 08:46 PM
  17. tippmann15's Avatar
    Then you must do nothing all day but play on your phone for it to need charging. LOL
    Not too much, just the games I play and usage patterns are battery hogs combined with lack of power advancement by the manufactures .

    GS4/iPhone5
    09-12-2013 08:51 PM
  18. dad2paisley's Avatar
    games will do drainage.
    09-13-2013 12:13 PM
  19. FishenFool's Avatar
    With all the cell phones I have had over the many years. I NEVER needed another battery or SD card. I am a heavy user. Now a day your never to far from an outlet or if your at home your wall outlet.
    Must not get into the outdoors much based on your statement.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using AC Forums mobile app
    09-13-2013 06:15 PM
  20. Haalcyon's Avatar
    Must not get into the outdoors much based on your statement.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using AC Forums mobile app
    Everyone, including me, doesn't go camping in the wilderness. My idea of camping is a room at the Hilton. I'm definitely not THAT Survivor guy. Every man should know his limitations. "Room service, Hi. Can you check on the WiFi...it seems a bit slow...oh, and a chardonnay please...a Kendall Jackson Vintner's Reserve...." Now THAT is camping!

    The Order Odonata. There can be only one.
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    09-13-2013 06:22 PM
  21. PhyscoAssassinX's Avatar
    Well i was against removeable batteries, but it makes better sense now, for example Removeable batteries = exposed connections = easier water damage, where non-removeable batteries = covered connection = more protection from water damage. the whole removeable battery doesnt really bother me now.... but you'll never takeaway my SD! 32GBsd+9GBeMMC=41 GB on my evo & 64GBsd+26GBeMMC=88GB on my Infinity Pad... im happy as can be
    09-15-2013 09:27 AM
  22. Haalcyon's Avatar
    Well i was against removeable batteries, but it makes better sense now, for example Removeable batteries = exposed connections = easier water damage, where non-removeable batteries = covered connection = more protection from water damage. the whole removeable battery doesnt really bother me now.... but you'll never takeaway my SD! 32GBsd+9GBeMMC=41 GB on my evo & 64GBsd+26GBeMMC=88GB on my Infinity Pad... im happy as can be
    Oh...you mean you saw this too:


    I liked that.

    Sent from my humble Note 8.0 LTE
    09-15-2013 09:48 AM
  23. PureAndroidExperience's Avatar
    Lol, I have 2 6500 mAh extended batteries for my Note 2. And two stock batteries. And 2 external chargers.

    Every been through an extended power outage? There's that.

    These arguments are ridiculous. I think people are bored, don't like removable batteries or SD cards? Don't get a phone that has them.

    See how easy that was?

    Sent via Note II
    Exactly, also like someone said on the first page about the 7500 mah battery on the S4. I use an S3 with a 7000 mah battery, I don't mind the thickness but it would be near impossible to kill it in one day and it usually lasts me around 3 days of moderate use. OP mentioned carrying a powerbank when you go out? Isn't that a pain? I don't like the idea of switching out batteries, but the extended battery is awesome. It also only costed me 30 dollars (they're about 40 now). Yes you can get those "charging cases" but not only are they twice the cost but they only double your capacity. Also, since they're always charging it's most likely degrading your battery so it won't even hold much of a charge after a short period of time.
    As for the SD card, I like having an SD card for taking pictures and especially for recording videos. As you know, Android phones (possible other phones, I'm just not sure) record raw footage and so the memory for even a short video could be a few hundred mbs. I have recorded a 15 min video before and it took about 1 gb. With an SD card, I can record directly to the SD card. Yes, I know writing times will be a bit slower, but I can put in a 32 gb SD card and not have to worry about my memory running out because I like to record long videos. So...yeah just view on the topic.

    Side note: I really am considering to buy the next nexus phone because of the price and specs and I do like having quick updates from google; however especially after reading this thread I feel like I should keep my S3 because of the battery.
    09-15-2013 10:24 AM
  24. PhyscoAssassinX's Avatar
    Oh...you mean you saw this too:


    I liked that.

    Sent from my humble Note 8.0 LTE
    i can admit when ive been proven wrong, you did it lol
    09-15-2013 10:39 AM
  25. Joe Barry's Avatar
    Oh...you mean you saw this too:


    I liked that.

    Sent from my humble Note 8.0 LTE
    Freakin awesome, Thanks for sharing that video.
    09-15-2013 10:48 AM
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