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  1. mrsmumbles's Avatar
    Become a politician! Free money and you get bribes from corporate companies!

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    I've never been that lucky. Maybe you will be, though.

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    12-28-2013 01:53 AM
  2. PDX97229's Avatar
    What ways do you protect your privacy on your device? I disabled Google Plus so there is no auto upload, and I am working on deleting all the various services and apps I tried out but didn't like. It's not that I'm paranoid, I just like to keep my number of services and sites and companies that have access to my info to a minimum. Bad enough Google shoves Google plus down everyone's throat all the time. But I have no choice with Google, they provide superior services.

    Posted Via VZW Moto X on the Android Central App
    Great question. I really miss my Palm TX. The data was confined to my device and my desktop hd. No worries there. Now it seems everything is out there for the taking. I'm considering reactivating my old flip phone that only knows how to make calls and only stores phone numbers that I might need to call from my cell phone. Then I would use my brand new Motorola Maxx with KitKat that would only connect to the web via my inhouse highly secure, hidden, password protected, wifi. The only problem is I can't seem to find a way to back up the data that is stored internally (which is most of it!). Ugh!

    Thanks to everyone who has replied to this thread. I have read all of the responses as of this posting and am carefully considering my next move.
    12-28-2013 06:06 PM
  3. PDX97229's Avatar
    Overall if you are using a cellphone at all, and imo especially though Verizon network, you should forget about privacy. As for being connected to the internet, especially if you already have a Google account (but not necessarily), privacy out the window too, unless you use VPN and preventing all servers from logging your activity, that's not easy to do. I know this isn't what you meant in your discussion, but you did not specify either, I still consider it a major aspect of privacy.

    I don't think it matter which popular mobile OS you use, they all collect data in some form, or the apps you use. Google make money from ads and they do it by collecting your data, most of the time anonymously, if you use their mobile OS or services you'll just have to accept that fact. The answer to these simply is to not use the services.

    For the most part, you don't really have control over Google taking photo of your house with their driverless car, map it on their map, collecting WiFi info, aggregating your info that is already present from other public sources and make it searchable on their search service. You already mentioned google.com/dashboard, Google let you control what info are saved and shared.

    I guess you can protect yourself from virus and prevent certain apps from accessing certain data on your phone, mostly this is the only level where users have real control over. Mostly it come down to common sense and careful of what you're downloading and signing up to. Read the permissions of apps add read the developer explanation of it before downloading. Even then Google removed that in KitKat 4.4.2 by making App Ops inaccessible unless you have root. In term of virus and malware, Android is pretty secure and the PlayStore scan apps installed for them. My only concern is controlling permissions of apps, you can't really do much without root, I would argue that even Black Berry and iOS let users control permissions more than Android right now (without root). But a recent incident of a flashlight app that have mulltimillions of downloads collecting user location without their permission and settling with the FTC shows that users don't have that much control in Android as they think, if even apps with millions of download invade your privacy without you knowing (sure you say check the permissions, but it's hard for an average Joe to do that when it have 5stars and millions of download, by that standard the public will have a hard time). Atleast in iOS you can disallow location per apps. I think Google have some improvements to make. For an Android fan I think it's a little embarrassing.

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    Thanks for the post. Very useful information, although I don't know if I feel better or worse after reading your post.
    12-28-2013 06:09 PM
  4. PDX97229's Avatar
    What steps do you take personally?

    Posted Via VZW Moto X on the Android Central App
    Thanks for your post. It helps to put things into perspective, although leaving my house unlocked may put the contents at risk, but my reputation and bank accounts would still be intact. Even less is at risk if someone steels my car, although it has more security features than my cell phone ever will. However leaving my information on my cell phone open to be taken by any hacker or company out there who compiles the information in case some day it can find a market for it is far more damaging. Potentially I could loose my reputation, credit score, and everything associated with my name. The only thing that keeps me sane is the thought "who cares about me anyway". Still, while I need and want this technology, I don't like the price we have to pay. But as you point out, there is no privacy anymore anyway.
    12-28-2013 06:21 PM
  5. PDX97229's Avatar
    To each their own how they wish to protect themselves. But personally, I'm not going to just throw my hands up in the air, say oh well and do nothing. I'm going to take appropriate measures that I feel help protect my privacy and security. It's only practical.

    I mean do you leave your house or car unlocked for anyone to gain access whenever they wish? Do you secure your Wi-Fi or leave it wide open for anyone to use? Do you leave your window shades open at night or close them to keep people from being able to easily see you? Do you speak openly in public around complete strangers about your private matters or are you discreet about them? Etc.
    Great Advice. Thanks
    12-28-2013 06:24 PM
  6. barth2's Avatar
    Become a politician! Free money and you get bribes from corporate companies!

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    Politicians don't make much money.

    It's only after they leave office and go into lobbying or "consulting" that they make the dough.
    12-28-2013 06:28 PM
  7. tgp's Avatar
    I mean do you leave your house or car unlocked for anyone to gain access whenever they wish? Do you secure your Wi-Fi or leave it wide open for anyone to use?
    No, but it's not quite the same thing. Even though we don't leave our houses or vehicles unlocked, we will give the keys to certain people. Just because Google or Microsoft or the NSA have your data doens't mean that it's widely available to the public, or even that they'll do anything with it.
    12-28-2013 06:40 PM
  8. A895's Avatar
    No, but it's not quite the same thing. Even though we don't leave our houses or vehicles unlocked, we will give the keys to certain people. Just because Google or Microsoft or the NSA have your data doens't mean that it's widely available to the public, or even that they'll do anything with it.
    They do it's called ads. A lot of them in googles case seeing how almost 100% of their revenue is ads.

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    12-28-2013 07:03 PM
  9. tgp's Avatar
    They do it's called ads. A lot of them in googles case seeing how almost 100% of their revenue is ads.
    Yes, but I don't see how that harms us. We'd see ads anyway. Google's info makes the the ads relevant. I guess it makes us spend more, but that's our problem, not theirs.
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    12-28-2013 08:41 PM
  10. A895's Avatar
    Understood, the point though is to reduce your risk/exposure. With your data, that can be done by limiting what is out there for them (Google, Microsoft, NSA, etc.) to collect in the first place.
    That what I do. I closed some more online accounts, and out very limited info on my Google account. I out no history on everything on my Google account as well.

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    12-28-2013 09:44 PM
  11. alexlam24's Avatar
    Politicians don't make much money.

    It's only after they leave office and go into lobbying or "consulting" that they make the dough.
    I think $200k as a senator is good money

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    12-28-2013 10:10 PM
  12. mrsmumbles's Avatar
    I think $200k as a senator is good money

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    How do you feel about life as one very long student council meeting with endless note taking and studying? Plus you have to be beyond reproach in your not very private private life.

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    12-29-2013 12:37 AM
  13. stratct's Avatar
    This is why for my at one should teach your children how to be kids and not let them throw their faces on the screen all the time. If kids are addicted to Facebook and the like it's the parents fault, I will be twenty next year and haven't been on Facebook in years. That social media crap is atrocious about how much kids are into it. We should calling texting and hanging out with friends face to face not iming and Facebook messaging, and tweeting, and Instagraming, and vining to contact each other. It's a mess.

    Posted Via VZW Moto X on the Android Central App
    Agreed. Also going to be 20 in a month!

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    12-29-2013 01:19 AM
  14. alexlam24's Avatar
    How do you feel about life as one very long student council meeting with endless note taking and studying? Plus you have to be beyond reproach in your not very private private life.

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    Have you ever taken a government class before?

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    12-29-2013 02:04 AM
  15. mrsmumbles's Avatar
    Have you ever taken a government class before?

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    Yes. Have you ever worked in government? It helps to have a law degree, too.

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    12-29-2013 02:29 AM
  16. radiohawk's Avatar
    Yes, but I don't see how that harms us. We'd see ads anyway. Google's info makes the the ads relevant. I guess it makes us spend more, but that's our problem, not theirs.
    I don't think most people have thought this through very well. The harm isn't necessarily in what you might spend - although in the case of some who find temptation irresistible that might be relevant - the real danger is what is shown in your search results. Google has already been accused for filtering results and excluding items that don't come from advertisers, and I for one would rather live in a world that doesn't allow advertising to prevent me from seeing all answers to any query I might submit.

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    12-29-2013 05:39 PM
  17. stackberry369's Avatar
    What would they be, the jobs I mean? ๐Ÿ˜บ

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    Look in your local paper. ...
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    12-29-2013 05:44 PM
  18. A895's Avatar
    I don't think most people have thought this through very well. The harm isn't necessarily in what you might spend - although in the case of some who find temptation irresistible that might be relevant - the real danger is what is shown in your search results. Google has already been accused for filtering results and excluding items that don't come from advertisers, and I for one would rather live in a world that doesn't allow advertising to prevent me from seeing all answers to any query I might submit.

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    That's why if you have a Google account, give as little info as possible.

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    12-29-2013 05:55 PM
  19. PDX97229's Avatar
    Zero privacy in everyday life = even less privacy when on a phone or computer. What I do is never give up any important info to anyone or anything on my phone or computer. I also do not use my real name on anything. That is why I was totally surprised at how popular Google Wallet had become. I thought it was doomed from the start because I can't imagine having my credit card attached to anything Google. Same with banking apps. For me, totally crazy to do banking from my phone. Wouldn't dream of it. I know some (especially younger people) call it paranoia but I haven't been given any good reasons to be less paranoid. The privacy issue is one of the reasons brick and mortar banks and retail stores still exist.
    I agree. Did you know you don't have to give out your credit card info for credit card transactions? Some financial institutions offer something called Shop Safe, or an equivalent application. It allows you to create a virtual credit card for each transaction limiting the dollar amount and the expiration date. These transactions are linked to your real credit card and show up on your statement just like any other transaction. I use it for all transactions where I don't have to personally swipe my card. I don't use Google Wallet much (it was set up by accident when I purchased some software through the Play Store), but when I do I just add a new credit card with the information of my virtual card for the planned transaction.
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    12-31-2013 03:16 PM
  20. ellisroy's Avatar
    I know this thread is old but in addition to what you did I also use duckduckgo as default search engine, Firefox beta with add-ons for browser, also izik and disconnect search. problem is there are certain apps that need Google

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    03-29-2014 07:25 PM
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